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Wizarding World - Diagon Alley Discussion (Opens 2014)

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I'm like a ninja :lol:
 
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Posting fake rumors to try and catch a person that is sharing your info? When did the internet become so serious? These are theme park rumors, not top secret CIA info. I love the site, and the discussion, but some of you take yourselves a little too seriously. Posting fake rumors on purpose doesn't help anyone or anything, it just causes more mis-information to be spread. In case there wasn't enough of it on the net already. You can't control what people post on other forums. Forums main purpose is to promote discussion of insider knowledge and rumors in the first place. You're basically trying to kill what you are trying to accomplish. It makes no sense to me. Just my two cents, i'll go back in my hole now.
 
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rhino4evr said:
Posting fake rumors to try and catch a person that is sharing your info? When did the internet become so serious? These are theme park rumors, not top secret CIA info. I love the site, and the discussion, but some of you take yourselves a little too seriously. Posting fake rumors on purpose doesn't help anyone or anything, it just causes more mis-information to be spread. In case there wasn't enough of it on the net already. You can't control what people post on other forums. Forums main purpose is to promote discussion of insider knowledge and rumors in the first place. You're basically trying to kill what you are trying to accomplish. It makes no sense to me. Just my two cents, i'll go back in my hole now.
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HTF wasn't sharing "rumors". It was real, concrete he was sharing from his sources. Info that was very specific, and could be traced back to him and his sources. Sources with jobs on the line if they were found to be sharing the information going around. HTF took a risk in trusting people with info that could be damage not only to his reputation with sources, but with the jobs and therefore lives of those people. So yes, it is top secret info. And he damn well has a right to be bothered by it being taken advantage of.
 
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rhino4evr said:
Posting fake rumors to try and catch a person that is sharing your info? When did the internet become so serious? These are theme park rumors, not top secret CIA info. I love the site, and the discussion, but some of you take yourselves a little too seriously. Posting fake rumors on purpose doesn't help anyone or anything, it just causes more mis-information to be spread. In case there wasn't enough of it on the net already. You can't control what people post on other forums. Forums main purpose is to promote discussion of insider knowledge and rumors in the first place. You're basically trying to kill what you are trying to accomplish. It makes no sense to me. Just my two cents, i'll go back in my hole now.
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He was posting them in the VIP lounge, an area that is for members who have donated to the site. The thread in question had a disclaimer saying for our eyes only... that's all I'm saying about it. Now if he posted stuff here and then posted false stuff seriously to catch someone that would be different as this can be seen any anyone and their dog who has a blog. /badjoke
 
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HTF's so called "rumors" have been true every time.
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rhino4evr said:
Posting fake rumors to try and catch a person that is sharing your info? When did the internet become so serious? These are theme park rumors, not top secret CIA info. I love the site, and the discussion, but some of you take yourselves a little too seriously. Posting fake rumors on purpose doesn't help anyone or anything, it just causes more mis-information to be spread. In case there wasn't enough of it on the net already. You can't control what people post on other forums. Forums main purpose is to promote discussion of insider knowledge and rumors in the first place. You're basically trying to kill what you are trying to accomplish. It makes no sense to me. Just my two cents, i'll go back in my hole now.
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I couldn't agree more with you. Mainly on the point that some of you do take yourselves WAY to seriously. We're all here along for the ride, to watch these projects come to fruition, it's just a bit of fun really.

But when you get jealous and whiny when another site is relaying what you said, it's time to wake up and put things in perspective. This is the 21st century, what do you expect? And when you delegate 'information' to 'VIP' members.. well that's just shady as hell. Especially when you've got excellent sites like screamscape whom I've been following for 8 years now, giving out all the info he gets with no compensation from readers whatsoever. And i know you don't like Lance, because he 'steals' your information, well think of this.. don't you steal information from your informant? How does he feel? Does he get jealous too?

Yes, I'm talking to you Hatetofly. I'm sick of the way you place yourself upon this pedestal of knowledge, throwing down crumbs of rumours to us peasants while you bask in the glory of it all. It's embarrassing to watch.

Personally I'd happily go without anymore information from you again. And to spread fake information to catch someone out? That is pathetic.

Rhino4evr, is right, this isn't top secret CIA info, these are theme park rumours... theme park rumours
 
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Everyone realizes that giving the info straight up, detailed breakdowns on certain things that only certain people know can cost people their jobs? On the low end, it could cost any one of our insiders their sources. Nobody is "jealous" that other sites "steal" info. They get upset when they aren't credited for the info. HUGE difference. Lance has been known to not credit the site or its members and pass off the info as if he didn't hear it from here. THAT'S why people get pissed. As for the pedestal comment, you realize there is a reason that we have the best informants when it comes to this stuff? Because our members are careful with what they EXACTLY say at what time and don't just blurt things out. Maybe you don't get it, maybe you've never been a reporter or had journalism classes, but once you lose a source, they're gone for good. Don't be spoiled. Don't be selfish. If you don't like it, go read another board and Screamscape.
 
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usfgeek said:
I couldn't agree more with you. Mainly on the point that some of you do take yourselves WAY to seriously. We're all here along for the ride, to watch these projects come to fruition, it's just a bit of fun really.

But when you get jealous and whiny when another site is relaying what you said, it's time to wake up and put things in perspective. This is the 21st century, what do you expect? And when you delegate 'information' to 'VIP' members.. well that's just shady as hell. Especially when you've got excellent sites like screamscape whom I've been following for 8 years now, giving out all the info he gets with no compensation from readers whatsoever. And i know you don't like Lance, because he 'steals' your information, well think of this.. don't you steal information from your informant? How does he feel? Does he get jealous too?

Yes, I'm talking to you Hatetofly. I'm sick of the way you place yourself upon this pedestal of knowledge, throwing down crumbs of rumours to us peasants while you bask in the glory of it all. It's embarrassing to watch.

Personally I'd happily go without anymore information from you again. And to spread fake information to catch someone out? That is pathetic.

Rhino4evr, is right, this isn't top secret CIA info, these are theme park rumours... theme park rumours
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There's the door. Don't let it hit ya on the way out!:wave:
 
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usfgeek said:
I couldn't agree more with you. Mainly on the point that some of you do take yourselves WAY to seriously. We're all here along for the ride, to watch these projects come to fruition, it's just a bit of fun really.

But when you get jealous and whiny when another site is relaying what you said, it's time to wake up and put things in perspective. This is the 21st century, what do you expect? And when you delegate 'information' to 'VIP' members.. well that's just shady as hell. Especially when you've got excellent sites like screamscape whom I've been following for 8 years now, giving out all the info he gets with no compensation from readers whatsoever. And i know you don't like Lance, because he 'steals' your information, well think of this.. don't you steal information from your informant? How does he feel? Does he get jealous too?

Yes, I'm talking to you Hatetofly. I'm sick of the way you place yourself upon this pedestal of knowledge, throwing down crumbs of rumours to us peasants while you bask in the glory of it all. It's embarrassing to watch.

Personally I'd happily go without anymore information from you again. And to spread fake information to catch someone out? That is pathetic.

Rhino4evr, is right, this isn't top secret CIA info, these are theme park rumours... theme park rumours
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Apparently you missed the point from our other members.
 
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usfgeek said:
I couldn't agree more with you. Mainly on the point that some of you do take yourselves WAY to seriously. We're all here along for the ride, to watch these projects come to fruition, it's just a bit of fun really.

But when you get jealous and whiny when another site is relaying what you said, it's time to wake up and put things in perspective. This is the 21st century, what do you expect? And when you delegate 'information' to 'VIP' members.. well that's just shady as hell. Especially when you've got excellent sites like screamscape whom I've been following for 8 years now, giving out all the info he gets with no compensation from readers whatsoever. And i know you don't like Lance, because he 'steals' your information, well think of this.. don't you steal information from your informant? How does he feel? Does he get jealous too?

Yes, I'm talking to you Hatetofly. I'm sick of the way you place yourself upon this pedestal of knowledge, throwing down crumbs of rumours to us peasants while you bask in the glory of it all. It's embarrassing to watch.

Personally I'd happily go without anymore information from you again. And to spread fake information to catch someone out? That is pathetic.

Rhino4evr, is right, this isn't top secret CIA info, these are theme park rumours... theme park rumours
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It is unfortunate that you two (usfgeek and rhino4evr) don't appreciate or understand how lucky we are to have hatetofly to tastefully give us information with care not to get his sources in trouble and out of a job.
 
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usfgeek said:
I couldn't agree more with you. Mainly on the point that some of you do take yourselves WAY to seriously. We're all here along for the ride, to watch these projects come to fruition, it's just a bit of fun really.

But when you get jealous and whiny when another site is relaying what you said, it's time to wake up and put things in perspective. This is the 21st century, what do you expect? And when you delegate 'information' to 'VIP' members.. well that's just shady as hell. Especially when you've got excellent sites like screamscape whom I've been following for 8 years now, giving out all the info he gets with no compensation from readers whatsoever. And i know you don't like Lance, because he 'steals' your information, well think of this.. don't you steal information from your informant? How does he feel? Does he get jealous too?

Yes, I'm talking to you Hatetofly. I'm sick of the way you place yourself upon this pedestal of knowledge, throwing down crumbs of rumours to us peasants while you bask in the glory of it all. It's embarrassing to watch.

Personally I'd happily go without anymore information from you again. And to spread fake information to catch someone out? That is pathetic.

Rhino4evr, is right, this isn't top secret CIA info, these are theme park rumours... theme park rumours
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Personally, I think everyone here would gladly go without another ignorant, selfish, whiny post from you again. Go enjoy Screamscape with its day late, and a dollar short content.


And for the last time, these aren't rumors. COLD. HARD. FACTS.
 
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Jymmymack said:
Everyone realizes that giving the info straight up, detailed breakdowns on certain things that only certain people know can cost people their jobs? On the low end, it could cost any one of our insiders their sources. Nobody is "jealous" that other sites "steal" info. They get upset when they aren't credited for the info. HUGE difference. Lance has been known to not credit the site or its members and pass off the info as if he didn't hear it from here. THAT'S why people get pissed. As for the pedestal comment, you realize there is a reason that we have the best informants when it comes to this stuff? Because our members are careful with what they EXACTLY say at what time and don't just blurt things out. Maybe you don't get it, maybe you've never been a reporter or had journalism classes, but once you lose a source, they're gone for good. Don't be spoiled. Don't be selfish. If you don't like it, go read another board and Screamscape.
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I don't believe information should be credited to anyone, especially when it's second hand info he's getting in the first place, any credit should not go to hatetofly. And Screamscape links to you guys all the time, what more do you want? I can understand credit for pictures, that's fine. But information? nope.

By 'best informants' you mean, "we have a guy who knows this other guy"?

There's the door. Don't let it hit ya on the way out!
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Thanks for your well thought out rebuttal!

Apparently you missed the point from our other members.
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Apparantly you missed my point too. I understand that this information getting out can potentially get someone fired, and that's a risk that the informant and hatetofly take. My gripe is that it's embarassing watching you all quabble over 'credit' when it's such a minute matter.

Personally, I think everyone here would gladly go without another ignorant, selfish, whiny post from you again. Go enjoy Screamscape with its day late, and a dollar short content.


And for the last time, these aren't rumors. COLD. HARD. FACTS.
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No, I shall continue to watch these boards. As boring as you all are. Because I'm still interested in the parks, just not in the bull**** you constantly drone on about.

Nope, rumours.
 
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Ummm, you guys do realize that the theme park industry is a very competitive muiltibillion dollar mulitnational industry, right? The phrase "Corporate Espionage" wasn't invented for fun. Real peoples real jobs are on the line. And the theme parks operators are very serious about their business.

If you don't like how the guys that run this site choose to give out iinformation, if it's not fast enough or complete enough, you can always hang out at Universal Orlando Resort's official site and get all the details you need to plan your next visit.

Have a "magiccal" day!
 
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usfgeek said:
Apparantly you missed my point too. I understand that this information getting out can potentially get someone fired, and that's a risk that the informant and hatetofly take. My gripe is that it's embarassing watching you all quabble over 'credit' when it's such a minute matter.
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This shows you don't understand the situation. Credit is important, because it drives traffic to this site. Traffic, in turn, drives revenue and notoriety.

It's more important than ego stroking.
 
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usfgeek said:
I couldn't agree more with you. Mainly on the point that some of you do take yourselves WAY to seriously. We're all here along for the ride, to watch these projects come to fruition, it's just a bit of fun really.

But when you get jealous and whiny when another site is relaying what you said, it's time to wake up and put things in perspective. This is the 21st century, what do you expect? And when you delegate 'information' to 'VIP' members.. well that's just shady as hell. Especially when you've got excellent sites like screamscape whom I've been following for 8 years now, giving out all the info he gets with no compensation from readers whatsoever. And i know you don't like Lance, because he 'steals' your information, well think of this.. don't you steal information from your informant? How does he feel? Does he get jealous too?

Yes, I'm talking to you Hatetofly. I'm sick of the way you place yourself upon this pedestal of knowledge, throwing down crumbs of rumours to us peasants while you bask in the glory of it all. It's embarrassing to watch.

Personally I'd happily go without anymore information from you again. And to spread fake information to catch someone out? That is pathetic.

Rhino4evr, is right, this isn't top secret CIA info, these are theme park rumours... theme park rumours
Click to expand...


One of the reason I was drawn to this site and continue to visit it on a daily basis is because of the knowledge of the insiders and the amount of spot on information that is provided here. And as a VIP I will tell you that I see and read more information in the VIP thread than I do on Screamscape and usually see it here days before I do over there and some of it Screamscape doesn't even have a clue yet about.

So is it more pathetic to post your little rant than HTF posting false info with a purpose?
 
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Nobody cares about credit in this situation. HTF isn't upset about the VIP info being shared on another site because it's "his". He's upset because it's not supposed to be shared. It's not public information. It's specific and can be tracked back to a source. He doesn't care about OU, he cares about his source's job. He trusted a select few people because of posters like the ones complaining about him, and even they betrayed him.
 
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Is that you Julian Assange?


Oh no, wait. Even he believes in being credited. And he's the preeminent supporter of worldwide free information regardless of the consequences.

And like JT just said, that's not even the primary issue. Protecting the source is the primary issue. Think anybody would talk to HTF if they heard through the grapevine that he got someone fired? Think HTF would ever want to share again after getting someone fired. Let's use some common sense.
 
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jtsalien said:
Nobody cares about credit in this situation. HTF isn't upset about the VIP info being shared on another site because it's "his". He's upset because it's not supposed to be shared. It's not public information. It's specific and can be tracked back to a source. He doesn't care about OU, he cares about his source's job. He trusted a select few people because of posters like the ones complaining about him, and even they betrayed him.
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This too.:thumbs:
 
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Hockeyman55 said:
One of the reason I was drawn to this site and continue to visit it on a daily basis is because of the knowledge of the insiders and the amount of spot on information that is provided here. And as a VIP I will tell you that I see and read more information in the VIP thread than I do on Screamscape and usually see it here days before I do over there and some of it Screamscape doesn't even have a clue yet about.

So is it more pathetic to post your little rant than HTF posting false info with a purpose?
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And since when did VIP people not get treated better? :lol:
 
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