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Rumor is they are going to extend the parking lot over that way. They already have a construction entrance and staging area.What's all that area cleared out in between the trees for, construction access ?
This argument has been made time and time again... but SOA was only good for 2 months of the year, LMA wasn't popular and BLT was a shell of it's former self (and also losing popularity). It's not like they shut down Sunset Blvd. and we lost ToT, RNRC, Fant!, & BatB all at once.This construction is taking what was a small park (not counting non attraction backstage areas), to even a really much smaller park, until construction is completed. I kind of wish they would have expanded beyond the park boundaries and kept what they had, then DHS could have been a decent sized theme park. When it's completed, it still will be a relatively small park, customer access areas wise....And what's there right now certainly isn't much of an area at all, very tight traffic space.
I agree with BLT & LMA, but I would have rather seen attraction replacements for them instead of it being used for SWL. I think SOA added some nice ambiance to the park, and it's footprint was small, so they really could have kept that. If they would have put SWL outside of the present park and put replacements in for BLT & LMA, they wouldn't have the capacity nightmare they're are going to have once SWL& TSL Kiddyland opens and there's no more total attractions than there were in 2012. And then, they wouldn't have a shell of a park operating for three or four years. Horrible foresight & planning.This argument has been made time and time again... but SOA was only good for 2 months of the year, LMA wasn't popular and BLT was a shell of it's former self (and also losing popularity).
I agree with BLT & LMA, but I would have rather seen attraction replacements for them instead of it being used for SWL. I think SOA added some nice ambiance to the park, and it's footprint was small, so they really could have kept that. If they would have put SWL outside of the present park and put replacements in for BLT & LMA, they wouldn't have the capacity nightmare they're are going to have once SWL& TSL Kiddyland opens and there's no more total attractions than there were in 2012. And then, they wouldn't have a shell of a park operating for three or four years. Horrible foresight & planning.
I like the way it turned out, tbh. Where they wanted to put SWL would've required moving major - and I mean MAJOR - Backstage areas. The CM entrance, CM Costuming, etc, etc, is all back by Indy. This will get demo done much quicker which means faster completion.I agree with BLT & LMA, but I would have rather seen attraction replacements for them instead of it being used for SWL. I think SOA added some nice ambiance to the park, and it's footprint was small, so they really could have kept that. If they would have put SWL outside of the present park and put replacements in for BLT & LMA, they wouldn't have the capacity nightmare they're are going to have once SWL& TSL Kiddyland opens and there's no more total attractions than there were in 2012. And then, they wouldn't have a shell of a park operating for three or four years. Horrible foresight & planning.
I like the way it turned out, tbh. Where they wanted to put SWL would've required moving major - and I mean MAJOR - Backstage areas. The CM entrance, CM Costuming, etc, etc, is all back by Indy. This will get demo done much quicker which means faster completion.
Obviously all of that will have to move one day as that is a prime area for expansion. However just think of everything that would've had to go. It would've taken up all of echo lake, Indy theatre, possibly Prime time 50's. I think people would still be complaining if they had done it that way since it would take much harder demo than knowing down hollow facades. The hardest thing about the current demo seems to be the LMA Stadium, everything else has come down quickly when they've actually been active in demolition.
Yeah, I agree with you on that Echo Lake scenario that the WDW Insiders thought was happening. But, I was talking about a SWL that would be completely outside of the present park boundaries. That's the only thing that would have increased the size of a really small park. Heck, even before the areas closed down, you could walk from one end of the park to the other in a few minutes.I like the way it turned out, tbh. Where they wanted to put SWL would've required moving major - and I mean MAJOR - Backstage areas. The CM entrance, CM Costuming, etc, etc, is all back by Indy. This will get demo done much quicker which means faster completion.
Obviously all of that will have to move one day as that is a prime area for expansion. However just think of everything that would've had to go. It would've taken up all of echo lake, Indy theatre, possibly Prime time 50's. I think people would still be complaining if they had done it that way since it would take much harder demo than knowing down hollow facades. The hardest thing about the current demo seems to be the LMA Stadium, everything else has come down quickly when they've actually been active in demolition.
One thing that I really like out of this project, like TSL or not, is that the TSMM entrance is switching sides. To me, having that entrance right in such a narrow area between the giant GMR Show Building and the soundstages on the other side was just awkward.Agreed. And I still think Indy is more popular and sucks in more people than LMA and BLT. Especially since one had not been open for over a year. I think Indy going down would have been a much bigger hit to capacity.
Well, when you think about it, they are sort of increasing the size. We never used to be able to walk behind the TSMM Soundstage. And the LMA area was off-limits most of the day and if you did go there, you had to be in the bleachers. There will now be an entire land down by where the show was performed.Yeah, I agree with you on that Echo Lake scenario that the WDW Insiders thought was happening. But, I was talking about a SWL that would be completely outside of the present park boundaries. That's the only thing that would have increased the size of a really small park. Heck, even before the areas closed down, you could walk from one end of the park to the other in a few minutes.
I am surprised we don't at least see something like a model in One Man's Dream. That's sort of been where big projects have made their way as of late.I find Disney's lack of marketing so strange on all of this. DCA's entire reboot was heavily, heavily marketed. There was the Blue Sky Cellar, tons of blog posts. I mean, everybody knew that this park was undergoing something big.
It seems like you lose a lot of marketing upside by not turning this reboot similarly into a big event. If Disney is so worried about losing tourists because of this reboot, then...well, that's a troubling sign in itself.
Looks like WDW has gone from the worry of losing tourists to the reality of losing tourists. They are also likely remembering the lesson of hyping Rivers of Light.If Disney is so worried about losing tourists because of this reboot, then...well, that's a troubling sign in itself.
I was just thinking about it today and with the lack of Holiday offereings at pretty much every park except MK this year AND the lack of nighttime entertainment, the really better hope that RoL gets up by November. They're gonna need it.Looks like WDW has gone from the worry of losing tourists to the reality of losing tourists. They are also likely remembering the lesson of hyping Rivers of Light.