JunoSynth
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Only if we get a training montage with them in a cabin and snowy mountains done to Hearts on Fire.
LOL. Sure!
Oopps. Forgot to make it a spoiler! DOH!
Only if we get a training montage with them in a cabin and snowy mountains done to Hearts on Fire.
I don't think the movie saw it as "killing off Luke", is the thing. The way the movie played it, he's now at peace with the Force. For all those years he shut it out, but he used it to get closure with Leia and save what was left of the resistance. Luke will surely be back as a Yoda-like Force ghost, and potentially more next film. Hence, the "see you around kid" or whatever he throws at Kylo.
Look, I recognize that TLJ has quite a few flaws, but it's still a solid movie for the most part, despite my issues with it. Yeah i've brought up a lot of things here myself, but most of those are just nit-picking. The major thing that could've made this movie better was fixing the pacing in the second act.That's a one sided type of article. He even noted he is not a major fan... And that's the whole point here. We are dealing with 2 different type of fans and 3 generations. One side rates by the amount of pew, pews, and the other side rates it by the depth of the plot. So yes! This is a great action movie and I bet it felt like Christmas, but for people like me that are following the plot that started on Episode I (yes, I do like the prequels. Issues? Yeah but vital to the saga) this movie just disrespected the main storyline, it's true meaning (Yin-Yang), and just the human, almost spiritual side of it. As dumb that might sound to some, still a fact. While some get goosebumps with the battle of Hoth, I'm getting goosebumps by Yoda's words in Dagobah. That's doesn't make me a better fan. It only says that even SW needs to find a balance between the action and the heart.... Unfortunately Rian took the heart put it on a blender and flush it down the toilet. He even disrespected JJs TFA, so at this point what's the point of 9. This movie brought main story to a complete stall and what was left of the plot, I personally down care for. Not even Rey, or her future. So that's that, but for the pew pew fans, I think the movie has plenty of action, adventure, great visuals, go watch it right now, you'll love it.
This guy gets it (why audience scores on RT are so low compared to critic score). Don't watch if you haven't seen the movie yet:
And this article is a good read about the disparity between critic score and audience score on RT. Some of it has to do with FB groups creating fake accounts and constantly downvoting, but other fans were sort of given permission to crap all over the film by Luke Skywalker himself when Hamill said he didn't agree with Rian Johnson's vision for the character.
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That's pretty much true true about the merch stuff, but at the same time they didn't detract from the film either. People were worried about them being the second coming of Jar-Jar Binks. They weren't Ewok bad either. Both were harmless. There wasn't an articulated reason for them, but they added to both Achtoo and Crait, making the planets feel like there is other life forms besides just the Resistance or First Order.Went to see it again, and my opinion of the film remains the same. Actually seeing it again,I really realized how awful the dialogue was. They are literally explaining what they are about to do when they could actually be doing it. Also, Rian Johnson didn't hide the merch marketing in the film (Porgs and crystal foxes) well. I was trying to find a point to them and literally they add nothing to the story whatsoever than being cute.
Stop supporting this film, it wont get better lol.Went to see it again, and my opinion of the film remains the same. Actually seeing it again,I really realized how awful the dialogue was. They are literally explaining what they are about to do when they could actually be doing it. Also, Rian Johnson didn't hide the merch marketing in the film (Porgs and crystal foxes) well. I was trying to find a point to them and literally they add nothing to the story whatsoever than being cute.
I just think a lot of fans had an idea of what this film was going to be like and when Rian took it in a completely different direction, it sort of rubbed them the wrong way.
I keep hearing this, but the obvious retort is Chekov's Gun. If you introduce a gun in Act 1, it better damn sure go off in Act 3, or you best have a remarkable explantion why it doesn't.
Abrams set up his "mystery boxes" in TFA. He now seems to admit he had no idea what would go in them, so Johnson basically tossed them and pretends they were never there to begin with. That's fatally flawed storytelling. No matter how pretty the movie was
I just keep checking YouTube to see what the Red Letter Media folks have to say about this
I keep hearing this, but the obvious retort is Chekov's Gun. If you introduce a gun in Act 1, it better damn sure go off in Act 3, or you best have a remarkable explantion why it doesn't.
Abrams set up his "mystery boxes" in TFA. He now seems to admit he had no idea what would go in them, so Johnson basically tossed them and pretends they were never there to begin with. That's fatally flawed storytelling. No matter how pretty the movie was--and I really liked the look of--the poor storytelling hobbles the movie.the Ming the Merciless throne room and the final battle on Planet Salt
Also, everyone so glad Disney acquired Fox so we can get the original versions again.What was Luke's planet other than an even bigger collection of random CGI animals parading across the screen than Tattooine?
I get where you guys are coming from. I do think this is the issue with having multiple directors involved with the same trilogy. George Lucas directed all six prior Star Wars movies to TFA and, even as bad as the prequels were, the story was solid and made sense within the lore.Exactly. While this movie may stand on its own compared to other films, it's still part of a saga. It doesn't need to follow the same tropes, beats, etc - but it still needs to answer whatever took place in each film.
I get where you guys are coming from. I do think this is the issue with having multiple directors involved with the same trilogy. George Lucas directed all six prior Star Wars movies to TFA and, even as bad as the prequels were, the story was solid and made sense within the lore.
Once you start a new trilogy, they really should've picked a director - JJ, Rian, whoever - and given that person the whole trilogy. JJ and Rian's vision of the trilogy and characters was clearly very different from each other. JJ will get 2 of the 3 movies, but it will be broken up by a movie that does mess with his original work a bit and now he has to work to sow it back together. I do think some of those mystery boxes are salvageable, though.
]things i didnt like about it
Finns role was a big nothing burger
Kylo Ren still comes across as a total wuss to me
Luke comes across as some weird old dude
If Leia can save herself in space why couldnt palpatine save himself when Vador threw him to his death
things i liked
Rey's story[/SPOILER]
for whats its worth ive seen every star wars movie in the theater but i wouldnt consider myself a huge fan