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Disney and FOX Merging Thread (Update Dec 14)

Discussion in 'Games, Movies & Sports' started by AlexanderMBush, Nov 6, 2017.

  1. quinnmac000

    quinnmac000 Veteran Member

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    To quell this notion:

    Per Box Office: Universal actually has the high grossing animation department with Dreamworks surpassing Pixar and Illumination surpassing Disney Animation Studios. Blumhouse also makes Universal a buttload of money...They aren't worried.
    Source: Movie Franchises and Brands Index

    Television: Comcast had 4 of the most watched Television networks (NBC, MSNBC, USA, Telemundo) with 3 in the Top 10 per total viewers and then within the demo of 18-49 which are what makes studios the most money, they also had 4 channels (NBC, Telemundo, USA, Bravo) with 3 in the Top 10. The only channel that is having trouble currently is Universal Kids which say a -30% downward trend in viewership.
    Source: Nielsen Via IndieWire
    Highest Network Ratings of 2017: Most Watched Winners & Losers | IndieWire
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    Going back to the Disney/Fox Merger:

    It seems DOJ is getting harsher on mergers. There are rumours that the DOJ may extend conditions for Comcast/Universal deals as well as analysts are now starting to state that Disney may have to give up RSN and the film studio in the FOX deal for the deal to go through.
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  2. Nick C.

    Nick C. Staff Member Moderator

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    Sorry, but just pure box office numbers doesn't mean it is the top studio.

    The numbers you're using to justify DreamWorks "passing" Pixar is Total Box Office, which for DW is $5.4B.... on 34 movies, averaging out to $155.4M per movie. Pixar has $4.8B on just 17 movies, which comes to $254M per movie.

    Actually, going by "average per movie", neither Dreamworks OR Pixar would be the top animation studio. That would be Illumination. They've grossed $2.1B on just 8 movies, which comes to $272.6M per movie. Pixar is number 2 with Marvel at 3 ($211.4M), LucasFilm at 4 ($209.9M) and Walt Disney Animation at 5 ($194.7M).

    DreamWorks doesn't show up on the list from the source you cited until 8th going by average, just behind DC Comics and just ahead of Warner Animation.
     
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  4. Paulio

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    I'm confused, what's gonna happen to the Fox Broadcasting Company (FOX)? Sorry I miss the whole thing last month, but I'm a bit strayed from this since. FOX network would lose most of the TV entertainment shows over to the rival competitor and now they have little to no shows left.
     
  5. AlexanderMBush

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    I believe it's been said that FOX and some elements of Fox Sports will convert to New Fox.
     
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    FOX broadcast will basically switch from primarily scripted to non-scripted + sports mainly. Right now they have around 15+ scripted shows that are produced at Fox television studio annually, but that number will decline dramatically.

    That will basically disconnect the Fox television studio from Fox broadcast channel as the ownership of Fox television studio goes to Disney.
     
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    Excluding the Illumination and DWA films, Universal franchises isn't as interesting as Warner Bros. and Disney itself. Jurassic World isn't going to be around much longer after Fallen Kingdom II and many people began doubting the fate of the franchise. The Fate of the Furious last year, while it grossed over $1.236 billion, didn't do so well in the U.S. box office market (grossing over $225.8 million against a $250 million budget). The last Jason Bourne two years ago did fairly well but it isn't a success and isn't iconic enough nor interesting enough to make a compelling Universal Studios attraction (which many suspect it would be T2 replacement). There's a bunch of rumors going around that because certain parts of franchises aren't popular with American audiences, they are intentionally made for foreign audiences. Universal is gonna need to toughen up if they really need to compete thoroughly as a whole.
     
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  8. Joe

    Joe aka TestTrack321 Staff Member Moderator

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    Lets not play the "excluding" game. Same thing can be said how well is Disney doing excluding Pixar, Marvel, and Star Wars...
     

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