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Halloween Horror Nights 30 Speculation Thread

Discussion in 'Halloween Horror Nights 30' started by Brian G., Nov 4, 2019.

  1. Brian G.

    Brian G. Staff Member Administrator

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    Yea, and Transformers 2 made over a billion dollars and is one of the worst films ever made. (Not that ST is that, but my point stands)

    No one is saying 0 IP's though...
     
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    Yeah and they made 5 sequels... Thanks for validating my point.
     
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    But this year the threat of hurricane did, and all the parks were slow, which may well finally be the effect of the cumulative years of 2016, 2017, and 2018 cycle dissuading tourists from traveling to Orlando in September. The calm years are now in the past and this is now a worst than normal weather cycle, which extends through the southeast USA travel states, that says the risk of disruption is real in September. And I'm guessing it will extend through Sept. 2020 or until the bad weather cycle slows down. I, for one, have changed my travel times to Orlando in response to all these recent years of it being a pain in the butt to travel there in September.
     
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    LOL... OK bad example.

    There is just no content to make, dude. Season 4 ain't happening since it won't be done. Season 2-3 was just featured, and if they wanna do a "Best of", do you think they're going to roll out most of the same house that wasn't looked upon favorably? We're not even taking into account how Netflix feels about it, considering how Hollywood was received far worse.
     
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    Yeah, I actually agree with you .. :grin: It doesn't make sense for ST to come back in 2020.

    I just wonder how much they care about GSAT scores vs. attendance/$$$.. In general...
     
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    So the threat of a hurricane did more this year than the threat and actual impact of one in 2017? Sorry, this just doesn't connect. I'd lean more towards a probable indicator of recession/cautious consumer spending than that.

    They'll just move along as they always do and use the next big one. Remember 25 did gangbusters featuring more original merch. As long as they have one marketable IP, and a good selection of merch, they'll be fine.
     
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    This. Just all this.
     
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    IPs aren't going away. They're just not. This property or that property can always be untangled once their license is holders see the dollar signs that HHN can potentially bring in. Even for an anniversary year which, contrary to what is apparently popular belief, like to minimize IPs and return to what brung 'em to the dance (except as pointed out several times - 25). Maybe there'll be a balance this year, maybe not. I personally feel they'll back off slightly but not much. But I can't see them repeating properties from 28 or 29. They're running a risk of TWD burnout.

    The description of the overseers - Roddy being the dreamer, Aiello being the guy who writes out a how it works, and Kim being the builder - is dead-on with what I used to hear back when I had more connections. We've got a potentially big changeover with Aiello's absence this year. I just kinda want to ride the wave and see where it goes until more concrete info is released. but I'll still have fun specing :)
     
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    So based on what some of you guys have said, Scream is a real possibility this year?
     
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    Universal burned some bridges with that Franchise over the years, plus the license holders are all over the place still, I believe. It's a tangled web, but repairable if everyone decides they want to make lots of money and a solid attraction.
     
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    Depends. It’s cleaner than it was because Dimension is (theoretically) out of the picture, but we don’t know if the Craven estate still has a say or what their say could be.
     
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    That's...disturbing that the A&D team is SMALLER now. Trying to cut budgets? :( Didn't you say someone else was coming aboard?

    THIS is why I don't want an increase in house count.

    Apart from this, lots of things posted on this thread today that make me feel excited about next year.

    I doubt it happens for reasons completely unrelated to this, but we're two years removed from The Shining.
     
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    Just restructured. Not everything is related to budget. The concept art and elevation drawings use to be developed predominantly in house, necessitating a bigger internal team. They’re mostly contracted out to freelancers now. There’s still an internal team that does the CAD work and such, but the show directors are less hands on because they’re doing a lot more park-wide stuff.

    The designers are fewer, the workers are more.
     
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    Gotcha. Like I said a lot of stuff posted in this thread today has me thinking "this is too good to be true." I thought for sure management would clamp down hard on originality with a new regime. #InsertHawkeyeGif
     
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    Patrick has been there a decade. Charles is the least tenured of the HHN team, and he’s been a show director for, like 5/6 years.

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    I also want to clarify I’m referring to the core HHN design team when I refer to it being “thinner.” A&D proper is about the same size.
     
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    Blake is reasonably new too, relatively speaking. And Horne has taken more responsibility lately too. So there's a new-ish hand driving that aspect. It's definitely more of a realigning/restructuring than a reduction in staffing or anything due to budget or scapegoating. AFAIK, we don't know who is replacing Aiello as the person the buck stops with... That is, if anyone replaces him at all. We could end up with HHN-by-committee, which could be a good thing since they've worked together for several years now anyway. Our it could be a "too many cooks" situation where there needs to be someone to make the final call when needed.

    I'm really curious how it all settles.
     
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    Hhn by comitee wouldnt be so bad.
    Could be better that what goes on in hhn hollywood lol.
     
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    Hoping this year, they do something better with the archway; being an "anniversary" year and all.
     
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    I always loved the 2007 entrance with the big carnival truck outside.
    They even had animal actors out by the arch on some nights. Actors on stilts, i loved that.
    2007 had the nicest entrance to the event.
    My favorite entrance of all time
     
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    I don't think we'll ever get something elaborate, as awesome as it was, since budget - but I would like something other than the same ol' song and dance "medallion and posters".
     

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