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UniversalRBLX said:
I think it’s time for an 11th house and some form of additional entertainment.

The 2PM open helps dramatically, but boy is HHN running at near capacity. F&F should help next year, but there’s been a couple of nights this year with all houses posted over an hour.
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There was a wait for the tribute store last night at 1am!
 
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Brian G. said:
There was a wait for the tribute store last night at 1am!
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I think that has to do with the design/layout of the store. It’s a tight maze-like layout compared to previous stores.

Even with the large crowds, they’ve managed food and beverage stands very well. It’s just houses and entertainment being swamped.
 
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Myah1220 said:
Eww. Yeahhhhhhh no, this is such a bad look, Universal, WTH? Ya'll have way more than enough money than to pull this bs.
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Spooky_Bitz said:
Universal has no excuse to not pay an artist to make a poster. They’ve got pleeenty of money. This is just lazy on them and reminds me a little of what Six Flags is doing for artwork on Knott’s and some other events
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Another day, another billion dollar company scraping the bottom of the barrel to save any penny necessary.
it stinks mystery science theater 3000 GIF
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ironically, a couple of days ago a random illustrator was caught tracing over an ai drawing on their tablet,
seems like they went live on TikTok or something and they got caught,
(I've heard that up to 30% of musicians are doing the same with ai music, re recording AI songs according to some study, kinda like how Ben Affleck sold an ai program to Netflix to do the same with video. fix footage with ai)

this universal art work could have started as original human art but enhanced by ai. the same thing happened with Spiderman brand new day

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I can't even tell from the photo- where is this? I see Sideshow of Decay in the background. But like.. what is even the context for this? What is the point? Lol
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Okay, I guess I will be the guy to ask, how do we know it is AI?

What am I missing that clearly demonstrates that this wasn’t just made by a person?
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and the other problem is that Photoshop has ai features now and canva has ai features,
artists' posts on Instagram are being labeled ai because they used canva.
the Instagram ai bot is identifying ai in people that didn't know those programs had AI.
(it's ironic that Instagram uses ai to identify AI posts :lmao: )

this universal artwork could have just been made with photoshop by a person but they could have used their ai features, even by accident.
 
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UniversalRBLX said:
I think it’s time for an 11th house and some form of additional entertainment.

The 2PM open helps dramatically, but boy is HHN running at near capacity. F&F should help next year, but there’s been a couple of nights this year with all houses posted over an hour.
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The MIB tent needs to make a return. Back when it was still an active location, only a small portion of the line went into the pathway that now goes backstage to Tents 3 and 4, so I can't imagine it'd be too hard crowdflow wise unless scareactor space is needed on the current pathway?
 
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UniversalRBLX said:
I think it’s time for an 11th house and some form of additional entertainment.
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Agree totally.
UniversalRBLX said:
F&F should help next year,
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Hopefully the added 1,000 - 2,000 riders per hour on F&F is more than the extra people showing up to HHN who would have otherwise stayed at home.
 
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ThemeParks4Life said:
The MIB tent needs to make a return. Back when it was still an active location, only a small portion of the line went into the pathway that now goes backstage to Tents 3 and 4, so I can't imagine it'd be too hard crowdflow wise unless scareactor space is needed on the current pathway?
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It's not coming back.
 
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ThemeParks4Life said:
The MIB tent needs to make a return. Back when it was still an active location, only a small portion of the line went into the pathway that now goes backstage to Tents 3 and 4, so I can't imagine it'd be too hard crowdflow wise unless scareactor space is needed on the current pathway?
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I don't see that location returning, after all they can't bring it back in its current state less they want OSHA bringing down the hammer on them. And I'm not 100% sure a viable fix is there, let alone one they want to do considering they have not tried to fix/bring the location back.
 
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UniversalRBLX said:
I think it’s time for an 11th house and some form of additional entertainment.

The 2PM open helps dramatically, but boy is HHN running at near capacity. F&F should help next year, but there’s been a couple of nights this year with all houses posted over an hour.
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HHN added 9+ hours of house time per night this year--effectively, an 11th house. It's done little to help. Sure the extra houses are busy for an hour or so, but become walk-ons for two of those hours, and then slammed again by 7 p.m. And the S&S set-up means practically every other house has a huge line by time the time gen pop gets in the front gate.

I discussed this on Twitter in the wake of Disney's crackdown on resort use, but Orlando isn't the smallish, kinda poor metro area it was back in 2000. We're the #18 metro in the country now (probably higher if you included the half of Polk east of Lakeland), and the average home price is north of $500k. That's a lot more people with a lot more disposable income.

Parks have to charge more than $10 - $15 a night or they're going to get slammed. Sadly, that's the solution. Cut ticket sales in half, but increase ticket prices 2.5x. Honestly, most people I know use their FFP more in a year than their day park AP. There needs to be more parity in that pricing.

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That's good though. Universal needs a strong HHN more than ever this year.
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Until the inevitable preference cascade hits, because a 1-night ticket isn't worth the hassle to see two houses. To quote Yogi Berra, "no one goes there anymore, it's too crowded." With this year's mid line-up of houses, that has to be a real concern for the 2027 budget.
 
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Respectfully, I'm not sure that I really buy that it isn't having any sort of impact. These are the wait time averages of the first 12 nights (2025/2026)
  1. 62 min/62 min
  2. 63 min/53 min
  3. 64 min/31 min (2025 Sunday before Labor Day)
  4. 60 min/35 min
  5. 56 min/36 min
  6. 54 min/38 min
  7. 54 min/48 min
  8. 49 min/63 min (2026 Sunday before Labor Day)
  9. 51 min/50 min
  10. 54 min/47 min
  11. 53 min/49 min
  12. 60 min/57 min
2026 wait averages have been shorter on 11 out of 12 nights (some by significant margins). That's not to argue that capacity shouldn't be improved (please please please give us new entertainment) or that there aren't busy nights, but I don't agree that it hasn't done anything to help.
 
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SeventyOne said:
With this year's mid line-up of houses
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SeventyOne said:
HHN added 9+ hours of house time per night this year--effectively, an 11th house. It's done little to help. Sure the extra houses are busy for an hour or so, but become walk-ons for two of those hours, and then slammed again by 7 p.m. And the S&S set-up means practically every other house has a huge line by time the time gen pop gets in the front gate.

I discussed this on Twitter in the wake of Disney's crackdown on resort use, but Orlando isn't the smallish, kinda poor metro area it was back in 2000. We're the #18 metro in the country now (probably higher if you included the half of Polk east of Lakeland), and the average home price is north of $500k. That's a lot more people with a lot more disposable income.

Parks have to charge more than $10 - $15 a night or they're going to get slammed. Sadly, that's the solution. Cut ticket sales in half, but increase ticket prices 2.5x. Honestly, most people I know use their FFP more in a year than their day park AP. There needs to be more parity in that pricing.



Until the inevitable preference cascade hits, because a 1-night ticket isn't worth the hassle to see two houses. To quote Yogi Berra, "no one goes there anymore, it's too crowded." With this year's mid line-up of houses, that has to be a real concern for the 2027 budget.
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Agree with a lot of this. While I haven’t been yet this year, I have felt over the past few seasons that getting through 10 houses is kind of a slog. If you don’t have Express, the queues kill you…if you do have Express, it just becomes very redundant (you can pretty easily figure out the cadence, boo hole spots, potential effects, etc. after you’ve gone through 2-3 of the houses in rapid succession). Adding 11 is just going to become a chore.

I think what HHN needs (lol, you guys are gonna love this) is to go full Disney. Add upcharge attractions and spaces that people can purchase during the event hours. The problem with the queues isn’t the general public (I don’t think), it’s the people who have become legit HHN lifestylers over the past few years. Take advantage of the experience economy, take advantage of how many people want to just “be there” every night, and take advantage of your rabid core fanbase. It’s an easy way to take those people off the streets for a few hours at a time and also keep the event fresh for people who go every other day with their FFP’s.

Nightmare Fuel goes to capacity consistently despite being the same thing year after year. The tribute store apparently has a queue now. That’s not a reflection of a house capacity problem, that’s a reflection of a fanbase that’s just looking for “stuff” to do.
 
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OrlandoGuy said:
Agree with a lot of this. While I haven’t been yet this year, I have felt over the past few seasons that getting through 10 houses is kind of a slog. If you don’t have Express, the queues kill you…if you do have Express, it just becomes very redundant (you can pretty easily figure out the cadence, boo hole spots, potential effects, etc. after you’ve gone through 2-3 of the houses in rapid succession). Adding 11 is just going to become a chore.

I think what HHN needs (lol, you guys are gonna love this) is to go full Disney. Add upcharge attractions and spaces that people can purchase during the event hours. The problem with the queues isn’t the general public (I don’t think), it’s the people who have become legit HHN lifestylers over the past few years. Take advantage of the experience economy, take advantage of how many people want to just “be there” every night, and take advantage of your rabid core fanbase. It’s an easy way to take those people off the streets for a few hours at a time and also keep the event fresh for people who go every other day with their FFP’s.

Nightmare Fuel goes to capacity consistently despite being the same thing year after year. The tribute store apparently has a queue now. That’s not a reflection of a house capacity problem, that’s a reflection of a fanbase that’s just looking for “stuff” to do.
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what kind of upcharge attractions and spaces?
 
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what kind of upcharge attractions and spaces?
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There are people a lot smarter than me that could come up with those ideas haha. Off the top of my head, though…

1. Upcharge house (sign a waiver, more scareactor interaction, etc.)
2. Sell access to the Fallon bar and/or other similar exclusive spaces
3. Dedicated “FFP Lounge” with meet and greets, some theming, maybe a couple of the drinks at a discount (after you pay for access of course)
4. Expansion of the tribute store concept (some sort of walk-through attraction that’s ripe for photo ops/has things you can buy)
5. Open Lombard’s as a specialty sit-down restaurant with some sort of exclusive menu, ambiance, and dedicated seating for the lagoon show
 
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OrlandoGuy said:
There are people a lot smarter than me that could come up with those ideas haha. Off the top of my head, though…

1. Upcharge house (sign a waiver, more scareactor interaction, etc.)
2. Sell access to the Fallon bar and/or other similar exclusive spaces
3. Dedicated “FFP Lounge” with meet and greets, some theming, maybe a couple of the drinks at a discount (after you pay for access of course)
4. Expansion of the tribute store concept (some sort of walk-through attraction that’s ripe for photo ops/has things you can buy)
5. Open Lombard’s as a specialty sit-down restaurant with some sort of exclusive menu, ambiance, and dedicated seating for the lagoon show
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Singapore did (does?) an elaborate, multi-course horror banquet with performances, vignettes, and interactions between courses. It’s an absolute blast and would be incredibly popular in Orlando.
 
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It’s interesting that they haven’t tried the Repository again (has it really been like 10 years?), I thought folks generally liked that experience?
 
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OrlandoGuy said:
There are people a lot smarter than me that could come up with those ideas haha. Off the top of my head, though…

1.Upcharge house (sign a waiver, more scareactor interaction , etc.)
2. Sell access to the Fallon bar and/or other similar exclusive spaces
3. Dedicated “FFP Lounge” with meet and greets, some theming, maybe a couple of the drinks at a discount (after you pay for access of course)
4. Expansion of the tribute store concept (some sort of walk-through attraction that’s ripe for photo ops/has things you can buy)
5. Open Lombard’s as a specialty sit-down restaurant with some sort of exclusive menu, ambiance, and dedicated seating for the lagoon show
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like the Hamikuma bear meet and greet which is free, at least thats something new, small but new
but I don't see it being advertised anywhere

and hhn Japan this year did Upcharge house with signing a waiver, more scareactor interaction, creepy effects

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It’s interesting that they haven’t tried the Repository again (has it really been like 10 years?), I thought folks generally liked that experience?
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I also miss that interactive stranger things game where you waived your arms at demogorgons
it was by the Terminator (Bourne) store
 
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OrlandoGuy said:
There are people a lot smarter than me that could come up with those ideas haha. Off the top of my head, though…

1. Upcharge house (sign a waiver, more scareactor interaction, etc.)
2. Sell access to the Fallon bar and/or other similar exclusive spaces
3. Dedicated “FFP Lounge” with meet and greets, some theming, maybe a couple of the drinks at a discount (after you pay for access of course)
4. Expansion of the tribute store concept (some sort of walk-through attraction that’s ripe for photo ops/has things you can buy)
5. Open Lombard’s as a specialty sit-down restaurant with some sort of exclusive menu, ambiance, and dedicated seating for the lagoon show
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I think you hit the nail on the head. There needs to be some more variety to the event itself outside of the standard shows/houses/scarezones/F+B loop that's there now. I think that's why you're seeing both long lines at houses and at the tribute store. I think there needs to be something that draws people to do other things (and this list is great).
 
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I think you hit the nail on the head. There needs to be some more variety to the event itself outside of the standard shows/houses/scarezones/F+B loop that's there now. I think that's why you're seeing both long lines at houses and at the tribute store. I think there needs to be something that draws people to do other things (and this list is great).
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losing rip ride rock it hurt immensely. that was a huge ride, and single handedly the most popular ride at hhn. that's really the cause of today's lines,
the lines for rockit were as long as the houses ( in most occasions, rockit's lines were longer than some of the houses)
mummy is a great ride and it never reaches the times that rockit did.
 
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OrlandoGuy said:
There are people a lot smarter than me that could come up with those ideas haha. Off the top of my head, though…

1. Upcharge house (sign a waiver, more scareactor interaction, etc.)
2. Sell access to the Fallon bar and/or other similar exclusive spaces
3. Dedicated “FFP Lounge” with meet and greets, some theming, maybe a couple of the drinks at a discount (after you pay for access of course)
4. Expansion of the tribute store concept (some sort of walk-through attraction that’s ripe for photo ops/has things you can buy)
5. Open Lombard’s as a specialty sit-down restaurant with some sort of exclusive menu, ambiance, and dedicated seating for the lagoon show
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I would definitely pay extra for a meet and greet of a horror actor like Robert Englund or Elvira for example. Maybe see props/puppets from horror films too.
 
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I would definitely pay extra for a meet and greet of a horror actor like Robert Englund or Elvira for example. Maybe see props/puppets from horror films too.
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there's your solution. make HHN a little bit like spooky empire,
set up a room or a building where you have merch, celebrity meetings , maybe food, maybe a short horror magic show (keyword: Short, 10 minutes max)
maybe a small horror concert, have the universal monsters dance and play music ( hey, bring back Beetlejuice)
nothing too big or complicated. bettlejuice being a host for a short performance or something.
not like a 30 minute performance, but something quick

dead coconut club is already doing a lot of this. and I said this last year....
what if universal copied what dead coconut club is doing but inside the park. dead coconut club is already having bands playing music on the stage.

imagine a mini concert where the musicians are the wolfman and dracula and stuff, I would pay for that.
 
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