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Knives Out

AlexanderMBush

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Nov 23, 2013
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I hope Netflix still gives these films a theatrical release. They’d be leaving a lot of money on the table if they don’t and much like Scorsese, Rian Johnson still fights for that theatrical experience.
They'd be dumb if they didn't. Knives Out should be a "big" IP that should work out well theatrically, even in limited runs like Mank, The Irishman, and other films.
 

joelbryant11

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Jul 12, 2017
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I hope Netflix still gives these films a theatrical release. They’d be leaving a lot of money on the table if they don’t and much like Scorsese, Rian Johnson still fights for that theatrical experience.
I imagine they’ll at least do a limited one for Oscar purposes.

I’d be satisfied if they did a nationwide release for even just a weekend.
 
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AlexanderMBush

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As far as casting comes, I sincerely hope for either II or III, that Rian gives Joseph Gordon-Levitt an actual role and not just the small cameo in the first. I would love to see him dunking with Craig's Leblanc in any way or shape.
 

ChristopherSE

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Huh. The first did well in theaters - I wonder why the streaming bidding war even happened at all? Either way, I'm thrilled we now have 2 confirmed sequels coming pretty soon, it seems.
 

ThemeParks4Life

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Nov 15, 2012
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I imagine they’ll at least do a limited one for Oscar purposes.

I’d be satisfied if they did a nationwide release for even just a weekend.
After the pandemic, they have more leverage for a wider release with theaters thanks to shorter theatrical windows. Cinemark is already on board with Netflix releases.
 

PerceptiveCoot

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Jul 13, 2018
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What I don’t get is why it’s necessary. The first film was amazing and only had a $40M budget.
Probably because Rian and Craig got a deal that would give them more control/money than they would have gotten with a theatrical partner.
 

Nick

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Sep 22, 2011
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Orlando
Probably because Rian and Craig got a deal that would give them more control/money than they would have gotten with a theatrical partner.
I understand why the filmmakers would want a higher budget, I don't get why Netflix thinks it needs one is my point.
 

Nick

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Sep 22, 2011
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Orlando
So first of all, we were talking about this all wrong. It was $450M just for Netflix to acquire the rights without talking about budget and now we're learning that Daniel Craig, Ram Bergman and Rian Johnson ALL will be making ~$100M from this deal individually.

Also coming out in The Hollywood Reporter is that each movie has to have a budget at least as high as the first Knives Out, which was $40M.

So, to break it down, Netflix is spending...
Rights cost: $469M
Money to Rian/Bergman/Craig: $300M
Minimum budget: $80M ($40M per movie at least)

Total, before filming: $849M for two movies

 
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Nick

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Sep 22, 2011
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So first of all, we were talking about this all wrong. It was $450M just for Netflix to acquire the rights without talking about budget and now we're learning that Daniel Craig, Ram Bergman and Rian Johnson ALL will be making ~$100M from this deal individually.

Also coming out in The Hollywood Reporter is that each movie has to have a budget at least as high as the first Knives Out, which was $40M.

So, to break it down, Netflix is spending...
Rights cost: $469M
Money to Rian/Bergman/Craig: $300M
Minimum budget: $80M ($40M per movie at least)

Total, before filming: $849M for two movies

Hmmm, perhaps. That would make this make a lot more sense. So $300M for upfront costs with Rian/Bergman/Craig would mean they “only” paid $169M for the rights.

$50M/movie is just stupid for Daniel Craig though. Not disrespecting Craig as an actor, but the only thing he’s really widely known for is Bond, it’s not like he’s a marquee RDJ as Iron Man level star.

What happens now when they are negotiating with stars like Dwayne Johnson or something? All of a sudden, their market value has skyrocketed if Daniel Craig is making $50M/movie to reprise a role he played in a film that only grossed barely over $300M Worldwide.