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Merida looks almost curvy in that one drawing. Maybe it's just the dress? But that would have been exciting, for Disney/Pixar to have a curvier heroine.

After what How to Train Your Dragon did with Hiccup at the end of the movie, I'd like to see Disney/Pixar take more risks with their characters.
 
AcidPop said:
Merida looks almost curvy in that one drawing. Maybe it's just the dress? But that would have been exciting, for Disney/Pixar to have a curvier heroine.

After what How to Train Your Dragon did with Hiccup at the end of the movie, I'd like to see Disney/Pixar take more risks with their characters.
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Helen Par?
 
Scarletwebslingr said:
Helen Par?
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According to Google this is someone from The Incredibles? Never saw it...

Looking at the pictures, though, this character just appears to have "sexy curves." Wrists, arms, ankles, and calves the size of twigs with curvier thighs and bust. Not exactly what I'm looking for, because that's a more acceptable (and unrealistic) type of "curvy." That's not what a typical, slightly heavier person looks like. ROFL.

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Edited my post above to include some thoughts.

But honestly? She's just got a porno body. Stick thin with only a little extra weight in the so-called right places. I'm looking for a more realistic type of curvy - or not necessarily CURVY (although I notice some bigger girls strongly prefer this term) - just a little bit heavier all-around. Some of these Disney princesses are so freaking thin it's almost creepy.

It'd just be fun to see some risks being taken, like they were in HTTYD.
 
AcidPop said:
According to Google this is someone from The Incredibles? Never saw it...

Looking at the pictures, though, this character just appears to have "sexy curves." Wrists, arms, ankles, and calves the size of twigs with curvier thighs and bust. Not exactly what I'm looking for, because that's a more acceptable (and unrealistic) type of "curvy." That's not what a typical, slightly heavier person looks like. ROFL.
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She is stylized to be a comic book heroin. By comic heroin standards, hips the size of Alaska are certainly against the status quo and would be curvy within context. If by "curvy" you just mean "fat," then let me direct you to Wall-E.
 
AcidPop said:
Edited my post above to include some thoughts.

But honestly? She's just got a porno body. Stick thin with only a little extra weight in the so-called right places. I'm looking for a more realistic type of curvy - or not necessarily CURVY (although I notice some bigger girls strongly prefer this term) - just a little bit heavier all-around. Some of these Disney princesses are so freaking thin it's almost creepy.

It'd just be fun to see some risks being taken, like they were in HTTYD.
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HTTYD didn't really take a whole lot risks and their main characters were not overweight. The earlier Disney princesses were skinny when while the "sexy" image of the time was thicker. Their past few princesses haven't been stupidly thin, they've been just regularly thin, which is fine.
 
There are more body types than just "skinny," "curvy," and "fat." So no, I don't mean FAT. I just mean a healthier-sized girl who isn't essentially a hyper-stylized anorexic.

Comic book women often have so-called thunder thighs. Complete with giant boobs. It's an hourglass figure that has been considered sexy for a loooong time. I rarely see comic book heroines with itty bitty behinds and/or smaller chests. Depends on the character, but a lot of them have the big bust and big behind with somewhat muscular thighs. So I guess I wouldn't view that Disney character as groundbreaking or even very unique. I bet a lot of women wish they could have 99.999% of their body fat stored in their breasts and hips. :rofl:

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And no, there were no young overweight characters in HTTYD. That wasn't my point. I was talking about risk-taking with character designs/choices, and at the end of HTTYD they took a risk with making their main character a
cripple.
I found that to be very surprising and touching. I'd like to see Disney do things similar to that - taking a risk that hasn't been done before in their animated movies. For example, by making a main female character have a different body shape than 99% of their previous characters. Young girls struggle terribly with weight issues. My EIGHT-year-old neighbor - EIGHT - was recently diagnosed with anorexia. Disney could really spread a great message by having a slightly bigger heroine.
 
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AcidPop said:
There are more body types than just "skinny," "curvy," and "fat." So no, I don't mean FAT. I just mean a healthier-sized girl who isn't essentially a hyper-stylized anorexic.

Comic book women often have so-called thunder thighs. Complete with giant boobs. It's an hourglass figure that has been considered sexy for a loooong time. I rarely see comic book heroines with itty bitty behinds and/or smaller chests. Depends on the character, but a lot of them have the big bust and big behind with somewhat muscular thighs. So I guess I wouldn't view that Disney character as groundbreaking or even very unique. I bet a lot of women wish they could have 99.999% of their body fat stored in their breasts and hips. :rofl:

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And no, there were no young overweight characters in HTTYD. That wasn't my point. I was talking about risk-taking with character designs/choices, and at the end of HTTYD they took a risk with making their main character a
cripple.
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Oh, that's the kind of 'risk' you were looking for? That's okay, Pixar has you covered there, too ;)

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As far as 'curvy' heroins go, Lilo and Stitch is all 'bout it 'bout it.
 
Scarletwebslingr said:
Oh, that's the kind of 'risk' you were looking for? That's okay, Pixar has you covered there, too ;)

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I've seen Nemo. I'm drawing a blank here. You just mean because he had one tiny fin (if I'm remembering the movie correctly)? Not exactly groundbreaking imo because it's not a humanoid character, and therefore children may not identify with Nemo as much or comprehend that his tiny fin is the fish equivalent to, say, a tiny or missing arm on a human being. And again, because Nemo is a fish I don't think it was as risky of a choice as, say, giving a human female princess a stunted arm. On a fish a teeny weeny fin can be seen as cute, whereas the human equivalent would be seen as gross/bizarre/freakish by many people.

It's like how super pudgy animals are hilariously cute whereas pudgy people are gross, greedy pigs. Even if their weight stems from, say, a thyroid issue. Animals and humans are viewed differently when it comes to appearance-related things.
 
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AcidPop said:
I've seen Nemo. I'm drawing a blank here. You just mean because he had one tiny fin (if I'm remembering the movie correctly)? Not exactly groundbreaking imo because it's not a humanoid character, and therefore children may not identify with Nemo as much or comprehend that his tiny fin is the fish equivalent to, say, a tiny or missing arm on a human being. And again, because Nemo is a fish I don't think it was as risky of a choice as, say, giving a human female princess a stunted arm. On a fish a teeny weeny fin can be seen as cute, whereas the human equivalent would be seen as gross/bizarre/freakish by many people.

It's like how super pudgy animals are hilariously cute whereas pudgy people are gross, greedy pigs. Even if their weight stems from, say, a thyroid issue. Animals and humans are viewed differently when it comes to appearance-related things.
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Say what you will about Nemo, but nevertheless, the film is about having a severe handicap (when your livelihood rests on your ability to swim, a dwarfed fin isn't a cute thing to have), embracing it instead of using it as a crutch, and getting on with life. Animal or not, nearly the entire film was devoted to the issue of overcoming physical handicaps (both for parents and their children) whereas HHTYD's wasn't.
 
Scarletwebslingr said:
Say what you will about Nemo, but nevertheless, the film is about having a severe handicap (when your livelihood rests on your ability to swim, a dwarfed fin isn't a cute thing to have), embracing it instead of using it as a crutch, and getting on with life. Animal or not, nearly the entire film was devoted to the issue of overcoming physical handicaps (both for parents and their children) whereas HHTYD's wasn't.
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I thought nearly the entire film was devoted to the dad finding Nemo? Guess I don't remember it well.

And yes, it's great that they included that, but I still say there's a big difference between showing a cute little animal with an undersized fin, and a human character with their leg partially severed. The dwarfed fin didn't look grotesque or scary or even that DIFFERENT. Yes, realistically a tiny fin would cripple a fish, but heck, that weeny fin still looked cute. It looked...how should I phrase this...physically acceptable? And although the message was great I don't view the character/overall movie as groundbreaking. Whereas a dwarfed arm on a human character would imo be a lot more shocking to children and could send a much more powerful message. I'd like to see Disney take more risks with HUMAN characters, frankly. Animals and/or fantasy characters (like the toys in Toy Story) are different. Just like it'd be totally different for children to see a fat animal in Brave versus an overweight heroine, even if both overcame obstacles and the message was technically the same, the way in which that message was sent is wildly different. And the overweight Merida would be 50x as powerful.

Anyway, my point is, the drawing where Merida looked a little heavier (could just be the dress) is cute. And one day I'd love to see Disney have a slightly bigger heroine, or a hero/heroine with a physical disability, etc. Something to make them unique and send a positive message to the kiddies. God knows our society needs more positive messages about our bodies. The end. :thumbs:

Edit: Hey, there was a heavier boy in Up, wasn't there? STILL haven't seen that movie though. Ugh. Anyway, although it has always been a little more socially acceptable for men to be what they call "husky," because y'know, heavier guys still have their personalities (whereas heavy women are just heavy women - yay double standards), can't forget about him.
 
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