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The Future of The Simpsons Ride/Springfield (Orlando)

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What is the origin of this discussion (it doesn’t even feel like a rumor)? This still feels like wish fulfillment propagated by an echo chamber:
 
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What is the origin of this discussion (it doesn’t even feel like a rumor)? This still feels like wish fulfillment propagated by an echo chamber:
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There is a time limit on Simpsons so I think people are just making a wish list
 
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There is a time limit on Simpsons so I think people are just making a wish list
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But....,everyone's just guessing on the Simpson's time limit. No one has seen the actual contract, and it's terms. There may also be renewal options in the contract.
 
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This isn’t the Marvel contract, Disney has some say in the end I believe. I’d be surprised if the land lasted past 2028, and even more surprised if the current ride didn’t go before then.
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Sorry, meant to reply to the taking Duff back to hotel.
 
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But....,everyone's just guessing on the Simpson's time limit. No one has seen the actual contract, and it's terms. There may also be renewal options in the contract.
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Heavily rumored to be 2028 though right? Most of this thread recently has been pure wish listing, but that’s the actual rumor.
 
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But....,everyone's just guessing on the Simpson's time limit. No one has seen the actual contract, and it's terms. There may also be renewal options in the contract.
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No, nobody has actual access to the contract, but I've always heard (like since Simpsons was built) that it was 2028 like @DodgsonHere said.

Also, there are more than rumblings about Simpsons being removed in Hollywood

The Universal parks are normally downstream from one another, so it's not surprising that someone would deduce that Simpsons would be on the chopping block soon-ish

Add in the fact that the BTTF ride system is as old as...well....me...and I'm 30 - at death's door

Personally, I think this land will be rethemed to a property that hasn't been invented yet...I guess we'll see
 
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"Rumor"...is the key word. And....that moves the entire discussion into the 'pure speculation' lacking any real merit stage, at this point in time......Yes, thirty years
seems to be old for a ride...BUT...at MK or Disneyland, that would be a relatively young attraction.....I'm not trying to be a spoil sport. But there's been no evidence, only conjecture, that Universal is going to replace a fairly recently rebuilt land (Springfield), that's highly profitable, in the midst of building a new park, or soon after. I'm looking at it from a business perspective, and not a fan community slant. The fan community seems to generally have the mindset that almost everything in a theme park will be replaced within a few years by all new stuff. From a business perspective, that's not a very profitable way to operate.
 
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I'm looking at it from a business perspective, and not a fan community slant. The fan community seems to generally have the mindset that almost everything in a theme park will be replaced within a few years by all new stuff. From a business perspective, that's not a very profitable way to operate.
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isn't this almost exactly how universal operates?
 
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isn't this almost exactly how universal operates?
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USF in the past before they rebuilt most of the park, They've slowed down since.. IOA is almost exactly the same as opening except for Potter replacing part of LC and Velocicoaster add on. So, kind of partially yes on one park, and mostly no on the other.
 
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Nico said:
What is the origin of this discussion (it doesn’t even feel like a rumor)? This still feels like wish fulfillment propagated by an echo chamber:
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FWIW I have heard nothing about removing the simpsons.
 
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No, nobody has actual access to the contract, but I've always heard (like since Simpsons was built) that it was 2028 like @DodgsonHere said.

Also, there are more than rumblings about Simpsons being removed in Hollywood

The Universal parks are normally downstream from one another, so it's not surprising that someone would deduce that Simpsons would be on the chopping block soon-ish

Add in the fact that the BTTF ride system is as old as...well....me...and I'm 30 - at death's door

Personally, I think this land will be rethemed to a property that hasn't been invented yet...I guess we'll see
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Can you say more on how you knew it was 2028 since it was built? I have heard that 2028 was with an extension of the contract. I’m really curious to see the where all this truly began. Alicia is solid on reporting rumors, and I believe even she has said that she doesn’t believe this is happening.

This whole thing feels like:
1. Fans pick Universal and Disney as teams, expecting the companies to treat each other like that.
2. An extension of the Marvel contract conversation somehow.
3. People’s desire for a removal of a screen ride.

I don’t really care what happens to Simpsons. Level the whole thing and make multiple new areas in that corner of the park. But that’s not based in rumor and reality (as far as anyone in the know can speak to).
 
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Can you say more on how you knew it was 2028 since it was built? I have heard that 2028 was with an extension of the contract. I’m really curious to see the where all this truly began. Alicia is solid on reporting rumors, and I believe even she has said that she doesn’t believe this is happening.

This whole thing feels like:
1. Fans pick Universal and Disney as teams, expecting the companies to treat each other like that.
2. An extension of the Marvel contract conversation somehow.
3. People’s desire for a removal of a screen ride.

I don’t really care what happens to Simpsons. Level the whole thing and make multiple new areas in that corner of the park. But that’s not based in rumor and reality (as far as anyone in the know can speak to).
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Well it's all rumors, nobody has a definitive, however, I've always heard 2028, they could pull out at anytime I guess.

1. People do often pit Disney and Universal against one another, but it's really a question of Simpson's viability as a franchise. Universal appears to be changing a bit in this regard. They are actively pursuing a more synergistic route with in-house properties (minus juggernauts like HP, Marvel, and kind of Nintendo). IMO there simply is no reason to keep Simpsons around much longer, it already feels dated.
2. The Marvel contract is very different from the Simpsons, so that would be dumb to compare the two
3. That is true, but just on a mechanical level, the ride is oooold. It feels old, it looks old, it needs to be flattened

End of the day, I do see Simpsons going sooner rather than later.

But you are right, Disney and Universal make money regardless of who has the property and Disney's intentions with Simpsons are much different,

I doubt we'd ever see them in a Disney park
 
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I just keep feeling this will end up being Far Far Away.
 
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Maybe I should ask @Brian G. who his original sources were back during the merger. :lol:

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Let's Talk about the Simpsons Rights at Universal Parks

The Simpsons are now part of the Disney Umbrella. With the recent completion of the Walt Disney Company's acquisition of 21st Century Fox, there's been a lot of talk about what is the status of the Springfield area at the Universal Parks. While there is a contract between Fox and Universal, the t
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So far, all articles I can find either just reference “rumors” or point directly back to or quote Brian. My self-made mission of sourcing rumors seems to be at an impasse lol.
 
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I just keep feeling this will end up being Far Far Away.
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The location of it would be perfect at USF as it faces the lagoon and Shrek 5 is bound to be a hit. Shrek has so much potential for theme park rides. But would this Far Far away land just take over Springfield or could it encroach on MIB and World Expo as well
 
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Nico said:
Maybe I should ask @Brian G. who his original sources were back during the merger. :lol:

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Let's Talk about the Simpsons Rights at Universal Parks

The Simpsons are now part of the Disney Umbrella. With the recent completion of the Walt Disney Company's acquisition of 21st Century Fox, there's been a lot of talk about what is the status of the Springfield area at the Universal Parks. While there is a contract between Fox and Universal, the t
www.insideuniversal.net www.insideuniversal.net

So far, all articles I can find either just reference “rumors” or point directly back to or quote Brian. My self-made mission of sourcing rumors seems to be at an impasse lol.
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So making sure... Do you want me to clarify the alleged "20 Year" length?
 
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So making sure... Do you want me to clarify the alleged "20 Year" length?
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Lol Yes please!
 
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Lol Yes please!
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We do know there is an end date, but the contract doesn't outright say the timeframe - just that there is a "remaining term". Per connects, the contract is for 20 years which allegedly is the standard in agreements like this. For example, Potter is for 20 but has different parameters than what we've found for Fox/Simpsons.
 
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We do know there is an end date, but the contract doesn't outright say the timeframe - just that there is a "remaining term". Per connects, the contract is for 20 years which allegedly is the standard in agreements like this. For example, Potter is for 20 but has different parameters than what we've found for Fox/Simpsons.
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How do the parameters differ with Potter vs Simpsons?
 
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How do the parameters differ with Potter vs Simpsons?
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I believe the contract is up for renewal as well...only Potter would be worth continuing

Not sure the date that would happen
 
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