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Wizarding World - Diagon Alley Discussion (Opens 2014)

  • Thread starter Thread starter floridianer
  • Start date Start date Sep 25, 2010

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I still don't think so. I admire your creativity, but that still won't feel like going through the Floo network. And I highly disagree with requiring people to get on a ride just to pass through to the next section of the park. There are people who can't ride or don't want to ride, and what if you needed to exit in a hurry? Yu jsut cannot require people to board a ride jsut to pass through the park.
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As I said... The train would be a walk through. Gentle rocking wouldn't impose on a quick exit.

And once again, the Floo Network on the new ride doesn't feel like it either... It was used as a transition and the same would be here... And it would be even better then what's on the ride...
It could feel as close as they could get to going on the Floo Network. We could make this a stand alone attraction, and it wouldn't have to take up a whole lot of room. If you want it to feel real, then we'll say it's spinning relatively fast so that it feels dizzy when you get off, and if you don't want to get dizzy you can walk through the Hogwarts Express (it would be explained that it's a walk through but it would be called a ride on the Hogwarts Express, that way it's a "ride" to Hogwarts)... It IS possible.

I like to live by the Walt Disney company's old policy (What Walt liked to hear when he was alive). Let's say yes if, not no because. Because there is a way to do it...
 
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But the train would have to be a plausible size, which even if they expanded the width, it would still be too small for people to pass through both ways quickly.
 
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But the train would have to be a plausible size, which even if they expanded the width, it would still be too small for people to pass through both ways quickly.
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Well let's put it this way - The train could be "one train" but have two separate entrances, one from the front, one from the back. There would be two trains, one for the "trip" there, and one for the "trip" back... It could work someway, trust me... And there would also be a path to Kings Cross and the train station in Hogsmeade, meaning your already half way to Diagon Alley/Wizarding London. The train could be long, but it wouldn't really take that long to get to the end of the train...
 
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I'm sorry, but no. There is no way you can make it necessary to do a ride, even if it is a walkthrough, to move on the the next land. That is one of the things that's just impossible.
 
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I'm sorry, but no. There is no way you can make it necessary to do a ride, even if it is a walkthrough, to move on the the next land. That is one of the things that's just impossible.
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Once again, not a ride. More like Poseidon with gentle movement. But if we're going to have a walking area, we'll have to come up with some sort of transition. But it's possible IMO... It wouldn't have to be absolutely necessary to walk on the Hogwarts Express, there could be an area that you could walk around with some London country side and some fellow wizards who "live close to the school" and would help you... That would work as well...
 
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How would you like to be forced to either go through Poseidon or ride a gravitron every time you wanted to visit HP and then again when you wanted to leave. After a few butterbeers...:ack:
 
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How would you like to be forced to either go through Poseidon or ride a gravitron every time you wanted to visit HP?
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Exactly, no one would want to do that. I'd rather walk in through the JP side every time. And imagine the congestion when everyone's trying to get in through one side everyday.
 
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As I said - walking portion. Ohhhh, maybe a portrait pathway like the one described in DH, only this one is leading from Diagon Alley to Hogsmeade... That's a good transition, don't you think? lol... And it's indoor, so if it's raining and you're leaving the Hogsmeade section, you can stay dry rather than walk outside xD...
 
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A passageway that long? No way. Also, it would have to be a really big portrait for people to walk through it. Not to mention how crowded it would be.
 
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As I said - walking portion. Ohhhh, maybe a portrait pathway like the one described in DH, only this one is leading from Diagon Alley to Hogsmeade... That's a good transition, don't you think? lol... And it's indoor, so if it's raining and you're leaving the Hogsmeade section, you can stay dry rather than walk outside xD...
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So, for this walking portion, tell me, how is a wizard going to explain to every person that he is magically taking them 100 miles, while, in reality, he is taking them a few steps.
 
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A passageway that long? No way. Also, it would have to be a really big portrait for people to walk through it. Not to mention how crowded it would be.
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It would not be THAT long... Let's not forget, Diagon Alley would be in the Arabian section, and that's not that far from the Hogsmeade section. And the passage way in DH is described as cavelike. Well why not make this a relatively large pathway...
 
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This is just getting crazy out of hand. You guys have to realize, that it's completely out of proportion to take one trait from the books and movies and apply it to the theme park to make it be completely unrealistic, and not even in the books or movies. It's a theme park, yes.. but they do have tons and tons of limitations for all guests to enjoy it. They aren't making a walk through of a train, or a floo powder tunnel for guests to get from Diagon Alley to Hogsmeade, just no.

"They are theme park creatives, they can come up with anything."

While the Harry Potter world, does have a large canvas of possibilities considering it's a wizarding world, doesn't mean that they can do anything they want and call it okay because "it's magic". Jo is not making her creation something corny and stupid. They worked so hard, on all the little details and pretty much all the classic key points from the entire series and placed it into one land of a theme park, and called it Wizarding World of Harry Potter. It's successful, and it's going to continue to be. But that by no means, qualifies it to be expanded... because clearly they have nothing to expand to. They are not going to put in a Diagon Alley within walking distance of Hogsmeade, and they are not going to come up with some cheesy plan to make it geographically correct just because we are in Harry's world. When things start to become so out of hand, where it's not even in the book... then you know that it's just not a good idea with what they have right now. I do not see Harry Potter expanding, and that's just my opinion, and it's not changing. There are too many reasons effecting it.
 
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^ :iagree: *applauds*
 
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Yes because there hasn't been enough signs of it expanding..
 
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I personally, think it will expand. I just think the whole Diagon alley thing is BS and it needs to be realistic and true to the book. I think they should expand hogsmeade or add the forbidden forest.
 
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This is just getting crazy out of hand. You guys have to realize, that it's completely out of proportion to take one trait from the books and movies and apply it to the theme park to make it be completely unrealistic, and not even in the books or movies. It's a theme park, yes.. but they do have tons and tons of limitations for all guests to enjoy it. They aren't making a walk through of a train, or a floo powder tunnel for guests to get from Diagon Alley to Hogsmeade, just no.

"They are theme park creatives, they can come up with anything."

While the Harry Potter world, does have a large canvas of possibilities considering it's a wizarding world, doesn't mean that they can do anything they want and call it okay because "it's magic". Jo is not making her creation something corny and stupid. They worked so hard, on all the little details and pretty much all the classic key points from the entire series and placed it into one land of a theme park, and called it Wizarding World of Harry Potter. It's successful, and it's going to continue to be. But that by no means, qualifies it to be expanded... because clearly they have nothing to expand to. They are not going to put in a Diagon Alley within walking distance of Hogsmeade, and they are not going to come up with some cheesy plan to make it geographically correct just because we are in Harry's world. When things start to become so out of hand, where it's not even in the book... then you know that it's just not a good idea with what they have right now. I do not see Harry Potter expanding, and that's just my opinion, and it's not changing. There are too many reasons effecting it.
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I don't understand how to make it clearer. There is and always has been a way to make it work... Just because something is possible doesn't mean it's cheesy. It IS in the book. We have tons of things in the book if you'd just look at it. I promise you, everything explained is FROM the book, explained in a reasonable manner, and really, if you don't want it to be cheesy, then take out the Sorting Hat's saftey warning rhyme and you'll get close to being out of the cheesiness with Potter...

They WOULD make it geographically correct to bring it to life, and yes, JUST because we are in Harry's world. That's why the authenticity is in the park in the first place...
 
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It would not be THAT long... Let's not forget, Diagon Alley would be in the Arabian section, and that's not that far from the Hogsmeade section. And the passage way in DH is described as cavelike. Well why not make this a relatively large pathway...
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By "that" I think TSSD meant a passageway from the real Hogsmeade to the real Diagon Alley would be 100 miles, making no difference whether you were inside or outside. Plus, like Vyrus said, the RoR does not really have a location, so we cannot be sure that the kind of passage described in the book is possible between any other two destinations.
 
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I personally, think it will expand. I just think the whole Diagon alley thing is BS and it needs to be realistic and true to the book. I think they should expand hogsmeade or add the forbidden forest.
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But it could work if you open your mind to the possibilities and get innovative. And clearly the team at Universal is. It is possible, and just because you don't think it could be doesn't mean it won't be. People also believed that Potter would teeter out, they wouldn't make another movie after the first... It can, and probably will, happen. I can see it, and I can see solutions to all of the problems you have proposed. And I have also proposed solutions to them.
 
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Why not a large forest between DA and Hogsmeade? I mean it's simple and when you see Hogsmeade its' more grand.
 
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By "that" I think TSSD meant a passageway from the real Hogsmeade to the real Diagon Alley would be 100 miles, making no difference whether you were inside or outside. Plus, like Vyrus said, the RoR does not really have a location, so we cannot be sure that the kind of passage described in the book is possible between any other two destinations.
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Yes, but once again, this is magic. It could work, and with magic, a short path from a hundred mile away place would work... And that's exactly what we're selling here....
 
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