Saying that Dudley is even "presumably" a world class flume is an insult to Splash Mountain. Even the much worse Disneyland version is better than Dudley.
You do understand the difference between "world class" and "world's best" right?
Saying that Dudley is even "presumably" a world class flume is an insult to Splash Mountain. Even the much worse Disneyland version is better than Dudley.
Dudley is one of the few spots in IOA where I actually do get a Six Flags vibe. It always seems to be in the active process of collapsing.Saying that Dudley is even "presumably" a world class flume is an insult to Splash Mountain. Even the much worse Disneyland version is better than Dudley.
Oh it's a world class flume for sure. One of the best Ride systems with a sick drop. The themeing is where it got cut. I know they rushed to get it done when they first opened IOA and they never completed all the scenes and stuff originally planned for the ride.Saying that Dudley is even "presumably" a world class flume is an insult to Splash Mountain. Even the much worse Disneyland version is better than Dudley.
Yes I do. To be world class would put it in the same class as Splash but not quite there. This is a categorically false statement to make as it is so far below in quality and like I said before, would be an insult to Splash.You do understand the difference between "world class" and "world's best" right?
To get to world class you go the extra mile beyond just the ride system. Dudley utterly fails in that department.Oh it's a world class flume for sure. One of the best Ride systems with a sick drop. The themeing is where it got cut. I know they rushed to get it done when they first opened IOA and they never completed all the scenes and stuff originally planned for the ride.
Honestly though, I think the way it is fits the Dudley Do-Right character...kinda crazy, out of place, and unfinished.
Nobody has topped Splash Mountain.
Well it's longer than most log flumes, higher than most log flumes, has animatronics, set pieces, and a story line. Definitely world class.Yes I do. To be world class would put it in the same class as Splash but not quite there. This is a categorically false statement to make as it is so far below in quality and like I said before, would be an insult to Splash.
To get to world class you go the extra mile beyond just the ride system. Dudley utterly fails in that department.
And it's all crap.Well it's longer than most log flumes, higher than most log flumes, has animatronics, set pieces, and a story line. Definitely world class.
And it's all crap.
Funny as I could say the exact same thing concerning the opinion that Dudley is "world class." Popeye? All day every day. Dudley? Give it the same fate as Dragon Challenge or go in and redo everything.Your arguments are so compelling.
You must have missed how hard The Wizarding World of Harry Potter and Harry Potter and the Forbidden Journey twisted the mouses tail.Splash is in it's own category for flume rides. There's Splash, and everything else.
ToT is in it's own category for drop towers. There's ToT, and everything else.
Uni needs another groundbreaking or "redefining" attraction. Spiderman was one that redefined dark rides. Other rides have caught up to it, arguably, although it's still my personal favorite.
Nothing has come close to topping Splash or ToT- its a position one cant argue against- decades after they've been opened.
I haven't ridden Pirates in Shanghai, but from what Ive seen and heard, it has redefined boat rides. Again- Uni needs to redefine a genre of attraction to something that doesn't exist currently. If that's a Roller coaster, Dark Ride or Simulator, that's fine. And what better IP than Jurassic Park to set that stage? It's as timeless as any IP they have.
You must have missed how hard The Wizarding World of Harry Potter and Harry Potter and the Forbidden Journey twisted the mouses tail.
The Wizarding World, blew up how theme parks are build. And Disney has bought in hook, line, and sinker. Since Disney lost Potter to Universal because of Universal's radical concept of an immersive single IP, multi attraction land, they have built 3 TSL, Carsland, Pandora, and 2 SW:GE.When I wrote that, I conciously thought to myself- "man- it's gonna sound like you're downplaying FJ and Gringotts". They were incredible- Gringotts being my favorite ride at UOR. And FJ was (and is) certainly groundbreaking technology in every sense. The only reason I didn't mention them, is that they didn't redefine a genre of ride. If anything, FJ potentially created it's own genre- nothing is really like it. Gringotts essentially took the Mummy (my 2nd favorite ride) and improved upon it in many facets. Yes, these are broad generalizations and more goes into it- but I think you understand my point.
Note that I only mentioned 3 rides. Redefining Genres just doesn't happen. No Coaster, for example, has ever "broken the mold" yet, IMO. Maybe we could argue a hybrid like The Mummy did? Or Space in it's day, potentially. But so often people look at "bigger, faster, longer" as the thing that sets it apart- but "different" is often more important. Look no further than ToT as proof.
The Wizarding World, blew up how theme parks are build. And Disney has bought in hook, line, and sinker. Since Disney lost Potter to Universal because of Universal's radical concept of an immersive single IP, multi attraction land, they have built 3 TSL, Carsland, Pandora, and 2 SW:GE.
That seems way more influential, to me, than ToT.
The fun thing about that paradigm shift, the pool of "land" worthy IP is drying up fast.I agree Dave, completely. Uni/HP changed the game
Create new IP tailor made for theme park integration and hope one or two click.
The fun thing about that paradigm shift, the pool of "land" worthy IP is drying up fast.
Then what?
Create new IP tailor made for theme park integration and hope one or two click.
Like Avatar.Or use their remaining library of non mainstream IPs that would translate into theme parks despite not being super big amongst the masses.
Like Avatar.