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Alien: Earth (FX on Hulu)

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I thought the premiere was very enjoyable. Good balance of unabashed monster stuff with some big ideas Hawley is clearly interested in exploring within the ALIEN universe.
 
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I’ve been doing research on writing novels, screenplays, and character building these last two weeks. The first episode reminded me of the “Save a Cat” writing method (ironically inspired by Ripley saving the cat in the Alien series).

It’s a lot of world building and character building in the early stages. It’s usually slower and I’ve noticed these shows have been taking greater liberty with that lately.
 
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USO92 said:
I’ve been doing research on writing novels, screenplays, and character building these last two weeks. The first episode reminded me of the “Save a Cat” writing method (ironically inspired by Ripley saving the cat in the Alien series).

It’s a lot of world building and character building in the early stages. It’s usually slower and I’ve noticed these shows have been taking greater liberty with that lately.
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And that’s kinda a hallmark of Hawley, sure. Except he normally does it in a more narratively integrated way. It’s a little less necessary when it’s an exceedingly known world. I still haven’t watched the second episode but, strictly on the first episode:

I think the first episode should have…

…started with a cold open of the Maginot during containment breech. Title card. Then it’s all the crash in New Siam. After all that addressed, THEN show us Wendy’s “creation” in episode 2.

One of the best parts of Alien is the reveal Bishop is a synth, working for a truly evil corporation. It’s world-building through storytelling, with a moment that is narratively essential while catalytic to the entire franchise’s lore.

Instead, we’re told we have hybrids and cyborgs in an opening title card and told we have multiple competing conglomerates in an opening exposition dump. Hiding all that, and letting the viewer wonder who the synth is (later learning “OMG, there’s more than synths”), or letting the question of what Prodigy’s relationship to Weyland/Yutani linger is (I think) a more engaging structure for this franchise. As it stands, the biggest questions the show could have are already answered before anything’s happened.

Someone involved in this production wanted this to be lowest common denominator storytelling, but that’s not what the franchise has ever really been.
 
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Legacy said:
And that’s kinda a hallmark of Hawley, sure. Except he normally does it in a more narratively integrated way. It’s a little less necessary when it’s an exceedingly known world. I still haven’t watched the second episode but, strictly on the first episode:

I think the first episode should have…

…started with a cold open of the Maginot during containment breech. Title card. Then it’s all the crash in New Siam. After all that addressed, THEN show us Wendy’s “creation” in episode 2.

One of the best parts of Alien is the reveal Bishop is a synth, working for a truly evil corporation. It’s world-building through storytelling, with a moment that is narratively essential while catalytic to the entire franchise’s lore.

Instead, we’re told we have hybrids and cyborgs in an opening title card and told we have multiple competing conglomerates in an opening exposition dump. Hiding all that, and letting the viewer wonder who the synth is (later learning “OMG, there’s more than synths”), or letting the question of what Prodigy’s relationship to Weyland/Yutani linger is (I think) a more engaging structure for this franchise. As it stands, the biggest questions the show could have are already answered before anything’s happened.

Someone involved in this production wanted this to be lowest common denominator storytelling, but that’s not what the franchise has ever really been.
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This sounds great! I appreciated the pace of episode 2 much more than ep. 1. I think what you described would have certainly been a great hook. I remember that reveal in Alien and being gobsmacked. It’s still a great twist!
 
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I watched episode two.

Still upset about this, to the extent I wonder if Noah Hawley actually understands what actually makes the franchise tick. No suspense. No intrigue. Universally juvenile dialogue that constantly contradicted the action on screen.

They actually have the elements for something really compelling and they just consistently present it in the most frustratingly simplistic way possible.
 
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I disagree with what’s being said so far. I think the first two episodes were fantastic. I didn’t like Alien Romulus as much as everybody else so this feels very refreshing to me as it’s not relying on pure fan service.

The Peter Pan allegory is in your face, but I assume it alludes to Marrow representing Captain Hook?

Im glad there’s no “suspense” payoff with the Xenomorph. Such a tried and true trope. Just bam, it’s on the loose and causing chaos. The horror is there, I think the story is intriguing, and I’m curious where this goes. I’m a fan.
 
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I disagree with what’s being said so far. I think the first two episodes were fantastic. I didn’t like Alien Romulus as much as everybody else so this feels very refreshing to me as it’s not relying on pure fan service.

Im glad there’s no “suspense” payoff with the Xenomorph. Such a tried and true trope. Just bam, it’s on the loose and causing chaos. The horror is there, I think the story is intriguing, and I’m curious where this goes. I’m a fan.
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Yeah, my only disagreement would be that the first 10 minutes or so on Maginot plays like total fan service, damn near a shot for shot remake.

But then they're all gone, as if to tell us, "this isn't the same movie retold.

Some of the dialogue has been cringe, and some of the decisions from smart characters have been really dumb, but the world-building and acting have me hooked in.

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The Peter Pan allegory is in your face, but I assume it alludes to Marrow representing Captain Hook?
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Yeah, but I think more going for the "evil Peter Pan" trope. Which has been done to death in the past decade. But again, the good keeping me watching.
 
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I’m absolutely loving it, everything is just so well done to me. Does anyone else let the credits play while they rock out or is it just me? :lmao:

On that last note, if a future episode ends with an Alien Queen reveal alongside Iron Maiden’s “The Number of the Beast” I might pass out lol.
 
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Third episode improved on the second for me, giving the "secondary" characters more room to develop. The Tinkerbell stand-in in particular nailed her big scene. And Timothy Olyphant great as always.
 
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Third episode improved on the second for me, giving the "secondary" characters more room to develop. The Tinkerbell stand-in in particular nailed her big scene. And Timothy Olyphant great as always.
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Dude I didn’t even catch her being Tinkerbell.
 
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Dude I didn’t even catch her being Tinkerbell.
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Idk, could be reading too much into it, but the Peter Pan metaphor has been pretty heavy-handed--
cyborg with a literal blade in his hand seems a dead-on Capt Hook pastiche
--but that's definitely how the scene played out to me.
 
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Idk, could be reading too much into it, but the Peter Pan metaphor has been pretty heavy-handed--
cyborg with a literal blade in his hand seems a dead-on Capt Hook pastiche
--but that's definitely how the scene played out to me.
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Omg I was way too distracted by the Alien to notice all this lol
 
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