I think there’s a difference between complaining and opening a dialogue, which is what I was trying to highlight. I’ll have to find some of the comments when I have some time, but mostly what I read was a black audience really excited to see a beautiful and positive representation, but dismayed to see the same “bait and switch” of sorts that Princess and the Frog had.
Yes, Moana and Coco exist and are great, even if they have their faults. Hollywood has improved. But this transformation plot line has happened enough times you do start to wonder if it qualifies as a trend. But even if it’s not, Black people have just been wholly under-represented by Disney.
I mean, let’s just narrow it down to Disney/Pixar’s human black leads. Song of the South, Princess and the Frog, A Wrinkle in Time. These are truly the only movies I can think of right now, though I may very well be missing a few. On a whole, Disney has been reluctant to diversify, so yes Soul is exciting. But it’s also okay to ask these questions: why is the creative team all white and why has Disney not listened to the single long-standing critique of Princess and the Frog?
It's so obvious. There is a male POC>transformation plot twist.I’m confused how anyone is thinking of PatF when watching this trailer.
I’m confused how anyone is thinking of PatF when watching this trailer.
I’m confused how anyone is thinking of PatF when watching this trailer.
I don't mean to sound like i'm being dismissive of what you're saying because I totally get it, but you do realize that there's currently more original movies made right now than virtually any other time in history, right? Creativity is flowing - most of it just ends up on a streaming service these days (which isn't necessarily a bad thing!).I think we really, really need for both this and Tenet to be great (and to do somewhat well at the box office). I'm seeing both, that's for sure--really want to support original movies.
I don't mean to sound like i'm being dismissive of what you're saying because I totally get it, but you do realize that there's currently more original movies made right now than virtually any other time in history, right? Creativity is flowing - most of it just ends up on a streaming service these days (which isn't necessarily a bad thing!).
We're getting off topic, but I agree. One original movie i'm highly looking forward to is Ryan Reynolds' Free Guy coming in December.You're not! You make a good point that original stuff is just harder to find because it's more hidden. But I do like seeing the rare occasions in which any of the major studios do something original as well.
Soul has officially been pulled off of the theatrical release window--and will be hitting Disney+ on Christmas Day.
I'm surprised they still have that rule for Academy Awards.And by at least releasing this in international theaters, Disney will still be allowed to submit it for Best Animated Feature at next year's Academy Awards.
It doesn't matter, they changed the rules this year so that if a film originally had a theatrical release date before being moved to streaming it would qualify for the Oscars. That's a rule only in place for this year.And by at least releasing this in international theaters, Disney will still be allowed to submit it for Best Animated Feature at next year's Academy Awards.
If it doesn't win then I'd be very surprised.And by at least releasing this in international theaters, Disney will still be allowed to submit it for Best Animated Feature at next year's Academy Awards.
Pretty much as we expected, except they are taking the full loss on this instead of doing Premiere Access it would seem. I assume they are hoping this will lead to an increase in subscribers, but to me, i'd think the audience for this film is already subscribed.