Seaworld CEO Change | Inside Universal Forums
Inside Universal Forums
Inside Universal Forums
  • Home
  • Forums
    New posts Search forums Account Upgrades
  • News
    Universal Studios Hollywood Universal Orlando Universal Studios Japan Universal Studios Singapore Universal Studios Beijing
  • Merchandise
Log in Register
What's new Search

Search

By:
  • New posts
  • Search forums
  • Account Upgrades
Menu
Log in

Register

Install the app
  • Signing up for a Premium Membership is a donation to help Inside Universal maintain costs and offers an ad-free experience on the forum. Learn more about it here.
  • Forums
  • Orlando Theme Parks
  • SeaWorld Parks & Ent. - Florida
  • Miscellaneous SeaWorld Parks & Ent.
You are using an out of date browser. It may not display this or other websites correctly.
You should upgrade or use an alternative browser.

Seaworld CEO Change

  • Thread starter Thread starter Teebin
  • Start date Start date Dec 11, 2014
  • 1
  • 2
  • 3
  • 4
Next
1 of 4

Go to page

Next Last
Teebin

Teebin

Veteran Member
Joined
Oct 12, 2009
Messages
20,673
Location
East Central Florida
  • Dec 11, 2014
  • #1
SeaWorld Entertainment, Inc. Announces David D'Alessandro Named Interim CEO

http://money.cnn.com/news/newsfeeds/articles/prnewswire/FL89280.htm
 
GAcoaster

GAcoaster

Dragon Trainer
Platinum Member
Joined
Nov 30, 2012
Messages
7,346
Location
Orlando
  • Dec 11, 2014
  • #2
And layoffs at all the parks as well :blank:

It's not looking good for SeaWorld Parks overall at this point. Hopefully some other company comes in and buys them up at fire sale prices now before they are damaged beyond repair.

There have been people in suits touring SeaWorld recently being led around by execs, so something may be afoot...
 
Teebin

Teebin

Veteran Member
Joined
Oct 12, 2009
Messages
20,673
Location
East Central Florida
  • Dec 11, 2014
  • #3
GAcoaster said:
And layoffs at all the parks as well :blank:

It's not looking good for SeaWorld Parks overall at this point. Hopefully some other company comes in and buys them up at fire sale prices now before they are damaged beyond repair.

There have been people in suits touring SeaWorld recently being led around by execs, so something may be afoot...
Click to expand...

Often, that is why owners hack the hell out of a company. They want to sell, but they must make it appear a viable business model by cutting staff to the bone. That will only work for a short time however as the product (the park and employees) will eventually begin falling apart from neglect.
 
P@n!K_Sw1tC#

P@n!K_Sw1tC#

Jurassic Ranger
Joined
Aug 5, 2009
Messages
1,431
Location
Windermere
  • Dec 11, 2014
  • #4
You could smell this one from a mile away. Honestly this whole thing isn't because of Blackfish - it stems as far back as the AB/Inbev transition in 2008. Here's just a few of many glaring issues with this company:

1) Poor Employment Model - Puts new hire/ front line employees on a 9-month probationary period, creates high turnover rate. Nobody has ownership of their roles in the company. Healthcare mandate then forces SeaWorld to cut back employee hours in 2013 to a mere 28/hrs a week because the company simply couldn't afford the labor cost. This again created a tremor in the employment makeup which reflects poorly on in-park experiences.

2) Capital Investment Decisions (2010 - Present) - Although Manta opened in 2009, the attraction was developed by the AB team and had nothing to do with the current team. Every decision the park made after that was based on the concept that, since they're in family friendly Orlando, they needed more family friendly attractions. What followed from Brian Morrow and company was a complete and total waste of finances and time.

3) Aquatica - What could of been an opportunity to tie the parks together slipped through the cracks, SeaWorld instead opened up a typical water park with a few animal based thematic elements. The focus should of been on opening a Phase 1 with an emphasis on creating a connection between the dry park and the water park. Although geographically, they sit next to each other, in terms of the way the traffic is distributed they might as well be worlds away.

4) Marketing Approach - This somewhat has to do with the response to Blackfish, and the humanitarian/preachy marketing campaign SeaWorld wasted money on to save face of their brand. The other big disappointment comes from trying to compete with other Orlando theme parks by identifying themselves as a family theme park, rather than providing an alternative to an already saturated market. SeaWorld should of focused their efforts on bringing the thrills of wildlife with modern-day thrill rides, instead they tried to fit them selves into a mold they don't belong in.

I could go on for hours and hours, but lets not forget the past. This isn't necessarily because of Blackfish, I just think SeaWorld executives find convenience in it as a way to explain what simply are bad business decisions in an environment that could of made them a huge hit. I really hope that whoever decides to acquire the park understands the true culture of SeaWorld and doesn't veer down the same path of failure that Jim Atchison, Terry Prather, and Brian Morrow fell so accustomed to.
 
Mad Dog

Mad Dog

Veteran Member
V.I.P. Member
Joined
Jan 30, 2013
Messages
23,874
Location
Pittsburgh area
  • Dec 11, 2014
  • #5
Many of us have agreed with these concepts for a while. It's not Blackfish, it's Blackstone. Williamsburg & Tampa are in the same sinking boat, and they don't have Orcas. It's just bad management bleeding a company dry, just like they did with Universal.
 
P@n!K_Sw1tC#

P@n!K_Sw1tC#

Jurassic Ranger
Joined
Aug 5, 2009
Messages
1,431
Location
Windermere
  • Dec 11, 2014
  • #6
I think the particularly disappointing factor is that they didn't learn from their mistakes the first time. Instead, they turned a blind eye and told themselves that everything would be alright. The best thing that happened to SWP&E in the last 6 years is Falcon's Fury - but even with this project you see a total disconnect between a kick-ass thrill ride and a bedazzled family friendly "land" known as Pantopia. What's so wrong about Egyptian ruins, the Jungle of Congo, or the tribal towers of Stanleyville that they have to change the entire image with made-up/ gayed-up fantasylands? What's really sad is that the Busch Family ran these parks like a hobby - and had so much fun developing them. What has kept them alive since then are the efforts of the past, not the failures of today.
 
Teebin

Teebin

Veteran Member
Joined
Oct 12, 2009
Messages
20,673
Location
East Central Florida
  • Dec 11, 2014
  • #7
P@n!K_Sw1tC# said:
What's really sad is that the Busch Family ran these parks like a hobby - and had so much fun developing them. What has kept them alive since then are the efforts of the past, not the failures of today.
Click to expand...

Well said in this sentence. It seems a surprise now that Comcast really has fun with running theme parks.

That said, Blackstone was still part-owner when the first Harry Potter land was built. Curious huh. I am still not sure what to make of it.
 
Parkscope Joe

Parkscope Joe

Superstar
Joined
Feb 15, 2012
Messages
18,224
Age
38
  • Dec 11, 2014
  • #8
This is the first step towards liquidation or a sale, IMHO.
 
Cole

Cole

Webslinger
Joined
Apr 6, 2014
Messages
4,105
Location
Rushmore Academy
  • Dec 11, 2014
  • #9
This is pretty damn depressing, to those getting laid off I definitely feel for you. Hopefully you all can go to a better park down the road and start anew, heard Disney springs is hiring up to the thousands so hey there ya go
 
shiekra38

shiekra38

Superstar
BANNED
Joined
Dec 13, 2009
Messages
16,111
Location
Florida
  • Dec 11, 2014
  • #10
P@n!K_Sw1tC# said:
You could smell this one from a mile away. Honestly this whole thing isn't because of Blackfish - it stems as far back as the AB/Inbev transition in 2008. Here's just a few of many glaring issues with this company:

1) Poor Employment Model - Puts new hire/ front line employees on a 9-month probationary period, creates high turnover rate. Nobody has ownership of their roles in the company. Healthcare mandate then forces SeaWorld to cut back employee hours in 2013 to a mere 28/hrs a week because the company simply couldn't afford the labor cost. This again created a tremor in the employment makeup which reflects poorly on in-park experiences.

2) Capital Investment Decisions (2010 - Present) - Although Manta opened in 2009, the attraction was developed by the AB team and had nothing to do with the current team. Every decision the park made after that was based on the concept that, since they're in family friendly Orlando, they needed more family friendly attractions. What followed from Brian Morrow and company was a complete and total waste of finances and time.

3) Aquatica - What could of been an opportunity to tie the parks together slipped through the cracks, SeaWorld instead opened up a typical water park with a few animal based thematic elements. The focus should of been on opening a Phase 1 with an emphasis on creating a connection between the dry park and the water park. Although geographically, they sit next to each other, in terms of the way the traffic is distributed they might as well be worlds away.

4) Marketing Approach - This somewhat has to do with the response to Blackfish, and the humanitarian/preachy marketing campaign SeaWorld wasted money on to save face of their brand. The other big disappointment comes from trying to compete with other Orlando theme parks by identifying themselves as a family theme park, rather than providing an alternative to an already saturated market. SeaWorld should of focused their efforts on bringing the thrills of wildlife with modern-day thrill rides, instead they tried to fit them selves into a mold they don't belong in.

I could go on for hours and hours, but lets not forget the past. This isn't necessarily because of Blackfish, I just think SeaWorld executives find convenience in it as a way to explain what simply are bad business decisions in an environment that could of made them a huge hit. I really hope that whoever decides to acquire the park understands the true culture of SeaWorld and doesn't veer down the same path of failure that Jim Atchison, Terry Prather, and Brian Morrow fell so accustomed to.
Click to expand...
If the money from Antarctica was used for a hyper and a wing rider, I think we would be telling a different story..
 
Nick

Nick

Veteran Member
V.I.P. Member
Joined
Sep 22, 2011
Messages
31,225
Location
Orlando
  • Dec 11, 2014
  • #11
It'll likely be full-time and management getting laid off. The majority of front-line workers are seasonal anyway. If you aren't seasonal then you're probably full-time. It's just how SWP&R works. They employ a small % of Part time workers, but it's not even worth it. They actually reduced seasonal employment from 9 months to 6 months as well over the past year as well, so even that got made worse.

Their high turnover rate makes for very low employee morale. It's a much worse situation than Disney's turnover rate with the College Program, mostly because the DCPers are eager to work and for the most part all love Disney. The people that Sea World employs... it's just another job to them. They don't care about it and the company does nothing to make them care.
 
P@n!K_Sw1tC#

P@n!K_Sw1tC#

Jurassic Ranger
Joined
Aug 5, 2009
Messages
1,431
Location
Windermere
  • Dec 11, 2014
  • #12
The first person on the chopping block should be Brian Morrow.
 
anihilnation

anihilnation

Webslinger
Joined
Oct 13, 2013
Messages
3,731
Location
Orlando
  • Dec 12, 2014
  • #13
And apparently Atchison is getting a $2 million severance package ... and $440.000 a year for consultation ...

I am not saying Morrow should be on the chopping block, but he should not be project leader, he is like a kid in a candy store ...

As for Aquatica, I love it, yes it is a generic water park but it feels really good and is very well maintained, it does not feel generic ... but yes, they should have the parks connected; would have been great if there was a bridge connecting the two parks ...
 
Nick

Nick

Veteran Member
V.I.P. Member
Joined
Sep 22, 2011
Messages
31,225
Location
Orlando
  • Dec 12, 2014
  • #14
And it begins (Scott basically ran BGT Entertainment):
swenson_zps9ed36e76.png
 
P@n!K_Sw1tC#

P@n!K_Sw1tC#

Jurassic Ranger
Joined
Aug 5, 2009
Messages
1,431
Location
Windermere
  • Dec 12, 2014
  • #15
Annnnd this straight-up pisses me off. Wow, they're really pissing away greatness aren't they. Scott is a great guy and an even better Creative Director.
 
GAcoaster

GAcoaster

Dragon Trainer
Platinum Member
Joined
Nov 30, 2012
Messages
7,346
Location
Orlando
  • Dec 12, 2014
  • #16
Interesting to see that the Wall Street types are advocating that the company be split in two now, with the SeaWorld parks becoming one company and Busch Gardens and Sesame becoming a separate one.
 
Nick

Nick

Veteran Member
V.I.P. Member
Joined
Sep 22, 2011
Messages
31,225
Location
Orlando
  • Dec 12, 2014
  • #17
GAcoaster said:
Interesting to see that the Wall Street types are advocating that the company be split in two now, with the SeaWorld parks becoming one company and Busch Gardens and Sesame becoming a separate one.
Click to expand...
I kind of figured that would happen and it actually seems like a pretty obvious move for a company struggling so much. They can sell off the other parks to Cedar Fair/Six Flags/whoever and still have their 3 Sea World resorts in Orlando, San Diego and San Antonio (which all have an Aquatica as well).

It minimizes the amount of management they need to worry about employing and they need to oversee less parks that, tbh, really are becoming less and less a part of who Sea World really is. It only makes sense for a company in their situation.
 
AdamLR89

AdamLR89

Rookie
Joined
Feb 26, 2014
Messages
62
Age
36
Location
Kissimmee,FL
  • Dec 13, 2014
  • #18
So my Question is today which Employees are Affected from the Layoffs? ( Full or Part or Seasonal) or all Three? cause I have Orientation on the 16th at 8am and it kinda worries me now that I might not even have a Job due to the layoffs even tho I Just got hired by Seaworld even tho I have'nt heard anything about cancellation of Orientation so I should be alright for next Tuesday?
 
Nick

Nick

Veteran Member
V.I.P. Member
Joined
Sep 22, 2011
Messages
31,225
Location
Orlando
  • Dec 13, 2014
  • #19
CaptainSantos said:
So my Question is today which Employees are Affected from the Layoffs? ( Full or Part or Seasonal) or all Three? cause I have Orientation on the 16th at 8am and it kinda worries me now that I might not even have a Job due to the layoffs even tho I Just got hired by Seaworld even tho I have'nt heard anything about cancellation of Orientation so I should be alright for next Tuesday?
Click to expand...
They aren't going to layoff seasonal workers. Part time is not likely either. They actually may try to push Seasonal workers to part-time, as seasonal can work 40+ hours/week, whereas Part-time is capped at 28 hours. I know multiple people in the past year who were offered that and declined because it simply wasn't worth it.

I foresee layoffs coming from full-time front line workers (potentially) and higher-level management types.

Honestly, don't worry about it though. Just do the best you can do, make a good impression and everything should be fine. Keep an ear out though.
 
Parkscope Joe

Parkscope Joe

Superstar
Joined
Feb 15, 2012
Messages
18,224
Age
38
  • Dec 13, 2014
  • #20
Hope UOR/Aiello picks up some of the HOS people...
 
  • 1
  • 2
  • 3
  • 4
Next
1 of 4

Go to page

Next Last
You must log in or register to reply here.
Share:
Facebook X Bluesky LinkedIn Reddit Pinterest Tumblr WhatsApp Email Share Link

Book with our Travel Partners

MEI Travel

Latest posts

  • PrimalScream1996
    Halloween Horror Nights 34 (UOR) - Speculation & Rumors
    • Latest: PrimalScream1996
    • 19 minutes ago
    Halloween Horror Nights 34
  • TheCodeMan95
    Jason Universe (HHN 34)
    • Latest: TheCodeMan95
    • 27 minutes ago
    Halloween Horror Nights 34
  • saint.piss
    The Fantastic Four: First Steps (2025)
    • Latest: saint.piss
    • 35 minutes ago
    Games, Movies & Sports
  • PrimalScream1996
    El Artista: A Spanish Haunting (HHN 34)
    • Latest: PrimalScream1996
    • 56 minutes ago
    Halloween Horror Nights 34
  • saint.piss
    Five Nights at Freddy's (HHN 2025)
    • Latest: saint.piss
    • 58 minutes ago
    Halloween Horror Nights 2025

Share this page

Facebook X Bluesky LinkedIn Reddit Pinterest Tumblr WhatsApp Email Share Link
  • Forums
  • Orlando Theme Parks
  • SeaWorld Parks & Ent. - Florida
  • Miscellaneous SeaWorld Parks & Ent.
  • Style variation
    System Light Dark
  • Contact us
  • Terms and rules
  • Privacy policy
  • Help
  • Home
  • RSS
Community platform by XenForo® © 2010-2025 XenForo Ltd.
  • This site uses cookies to help personalise content, tailor your experience and to keep you logged in if you register.
    By continuing to use this site, you are consenting to our use of cookies.
    Accept Learn more…
Back
Top