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The Icons and Lore Thread

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  • Aug 11, 2025
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SeventyOne said:
Huge LT update, but you'll have to cross fandoms to find it. Interesting post in the Society of Explorers & Adventurers Facebook group from local legend Right Guard Ian:

"It appears as if Universal/Halloween Horror Nights is developing their own S.E.A.! The International Institute of Antiquities and Exploration (I.I A.E.) No idea how far it will reach into further lore, but Boris Shuster seems to have been busy!!! The two idols from the past two HHN Tribute Stores have vanished from his office, BUT a consiparcy bulliten board has appeared! So…time to decipher what is new in the world of Legendary Truth!"

The post is accompanied by copious pictures of the new bulletin board in Boris' office.

Personally, I have no idea what this could be leading to, but I do find this a lot of work just for intraoffice amusement or even fan service.
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I believe it's Tribute Store related.
 
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Link please?
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ZuckerNerd don't make it easy to link, but in this group: The Society of Explorers and Adventurers (S.E.A.) | Facebook
 
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Just for funsies (for anyone interested), how would you do some sort of overarching story for a “Cinematic Universe” franchise of movies, or alternatively a series of TV Shows or video games (not an HHN event itself) featuring the icons as central in the plot? (Not sure if I asked this in the thread before)
 
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Just for funsies (for anyone interested), how would you do some sort of overarching story for a “Cinematic Universe” franchise of movies, or alternatively a series of TV Shows or video games (not an HHN event itself) featuring the icons as central in the plot? (Not sure if I asked this in the thread before)
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This is just my thoughts, I don't wanna rain on anyone's fun, and I am definitely not the demographic for this post :nervous: ; but I feel like the question is about as outlandish as suggesting an MCU-style format for Cereal Mascots or something haha.

None of these characters could hold a show or film. To be frank, these characters just aren't that interesting. And that's purposeful. They're brands. Generic entities designed for use on billboards and park maps, based off of only the most common pop culture signifiers for the Horror genre. They're made to be recognizable as "Scary" at a glance to the widest audience possible and little else. They do that job pretty well! But that comes at the cost of depth and originality.

It's writing your story with the base layer being to connect the lore of the Hamburglar and the Burger King. It just misses the actual purpose (and strengths!) of these characters entirely imo.
 
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Oh believe me, I’m very aware that this type of thing is unrealistic, it’s just a fun idea I think could be a little amusement.

Anyways, here’s my own (unfinished) idea for a sort of overarching story; mainly thinking of a video game sense (as usual I didn’t really bother with realism, as one particular icon that can’t be used is present here):

The story itself would revolve heavily around the 2005 concept of Terra Cruentus, a civilization that literally thrived on fresh human blood. In this storyline, there were 7 gods (OC characters) commanding 6 realms of Terra, one of them being a Mother Gaea type who rules the whole world, and their powers were linked to 7 (technically 6) relics: a “Blood Vessel”, a broken Chime, the Gorewood Skulls, the Terra Blade, a Goblet, and the symbol of Terra Cruentus itself. When the civilization fell, the gods went to sleep and the relics were swept away to various places. Some of the monsters were also swept away.

Somehow these relics came to Earth somehow in different locations. The slumbering gods of Terra Cruentus were slowly planning to get their relics back and regain their powers. However this is where the Icons come in. Not willing to be subjected to a civilization that rules them, Jack the Clown recruits 5 fearsome characters; The Caretaker, The Director, The Storyteller, Bloody Mary, and The Usher; as part of his villain group and they work together to take advantage of the chaos, kill the gods, gain the powers of Cruentus and rule the world. However, unbeknownst to anybody, Bloody Mary secretly plans to betray the Icons, either by waiting for the right time to backstab them or just simply letting them be picked off one by one by the hero of the picture, so that she can steal the power for herself and kill the gods then take over Terra Cruentus as its new and eternal Terra Queen.

And as for the presentation of the overarching story, this plot would be featured in several movies or levels where each Icon does their own schtick, control a bunch of monsters from 05’s event, and are picked off by the heroes one by one until the final or penultimate stage where they reach Jack himself, and then Mary does something (assuming she’s not extra dead or imprisoned at this point). Maybe an encounter with the gods later, IDK. And as for the TV option, was thinking of something as a “Monster of the Week” show harkening back to shows like Buffy with the Icons serving as the “Arc Villains” of the first two seasons popping in periodically between episodes here and there.
 
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  • Yesterday at 10:23 PM
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Oh believe me, I’m very aware that this type of thing is unrealistic, it’s just a fun idea I think could be a little amusement.

Anyways, here’s my own (unfinished) idea for a sort of overarching story; mainly thinking of a video game sense (as usual I didn’t really bother with realism, as one particular icon that can’t be used is present here):

The story itself would revolve heavily around the 2005 concept of Terra Cruentus, a civilization that literally thrived on fresh human blood. In this storyline, there were 7 gods (OC characters) commanding 6 realms of Terra, one of them being a Mother Gaea type who rules the whole world, and their powers were linked to 7 (technically 6) relics: a “Blood Vessel”, a broken Chime, the Gorewood Skulls, the Terra Blade, a Goblet, and the symbol of Terra Cruentus itself. When the civilization fell, the gods went to sleep and the relics were swept away to various places. Some of the monsters were also swept away.

Somehow these relics came to Earth somehow in different locations. The slumbering gods of Terra Cruentus were slowly planning to get their relics back and regain their powers. However this is where the Icons come in. Not willing to be subjected to a civilization that rules them, Jack the Clown recruits 5 fearsome characters; The Caretaker, The Director, The Storyteller, Bloody Mary, and The Usher; as part of his villain group and they work together to take advantage of the chaos, kill the gods, gain the powers of Cruentus and rule the world. However, unbeknownst to anybody, Bloody Mary secretly plans to betray the Icons, either by waiting for the right time to backstab them or just simply letting them be picked off one by one by the hero of the picture, so that she can steal the power for herself and kill the gods then take over Terra Cruentus as its new and eternal Terra Queen.

And as for the presentation of the overarching story, this plot would be featured in several movies or levels where each Icon does their own schtick, control a bunch of monsters from 05’s event, and are picked off by the heroes one by one until the final or penultimate stage where they reach Jack himself, and then Mary does something (assuming she’s not extra dead or imprisoned at this point). Maybe an encounter with the gods later, IDK. And as for the TV option, was thinking of something as a “Monster of the Week” show harkening back to shows like Buffy with the Icons serving as the “Arc Villains” of the first two seasons popping in periodically between episodes here and there.
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For me it goes past unrealistic or unlikely, and is just entirely unworkable. By the time that you have the Icons as actual characters with personalities, interests, deeper relationships, and dialogue, it will have to be an entirely different character at that point. They were designed to be depthless.

Iron Man and Darth Vader were created and fleshed out as characters first, and are now so recognizable that they can be the mascot for a Coke can or cereal. The opposite approach is much more difficult to square. I just don't believe a character like The Caretaker or Director can be fleshed out without significantly diluting their use as a generic scary mascot; and their core ideas are too generic to come off as anything but derivative in a larger work anyways.

But ... I also love the energy and passion that fuels fanfiction and art and stuff like that. So I will never begrudge someone for being interested in creating their own interpretation of these characters. They are so vague that you kinda have to create your own new version in your head to make them work, and that's the space where someone can bring their own creativity and inventiveness into it. I think that's all really fun and cool! :heart:
 
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