Halloween Horror Nights 35 (UOR) - Speculation & Rumors

[Spooky_Bitz]

The problem with human meat isn't that it doesn't taste good, it's that there are serious ethical and health concerns.

So no flavor town… I mean, yeah that is definitely not a good thing to eat human meat!

 

[Mashmingingmasher77]

Does anybody know if Universal has ever considered doing a top five or any other number house of the past decade? Would be economical and I think be a draw. I’d love to take another walk through original Slaughter Sinema, Seeds of extinction or Dead man’s Pier (which I missed).

 

[Tobias]

Does anybody know if Universal has ever considered doing a top five or any other number house of the past decade? Would be economical and I think be a draw. I’d love to take another walk through original Slaughter Sinema, Seeds of extinction or Dead man’s Pier (which I missed).

How do you mean? As in a house with several scenes from a past house? Or literally bringing back a house as is?

Either way, bringing any kind of scene or house back "as is" doesn't quite land the way one think it might. (I can think of a lone exception which was Attack of the Swamp Yeti's scene showing up at the end of Yeti: Terror of the Yukon, but even then, that had a few tweaks.)

If you've already experienced the house being referenced, there's nothing new. It's just a "Hey, remember this?" because you're not going to capture the house with just a scene or two. (Especially Dead Man's Pier where traversing through its unique set was an essential part of the experience.)
I feel that A&D prefers playing around with returning themes/scenes so there's a freshness to it all.

Also, AWIL returning in 25 is probably a crystal-clear example that yes, you can bring back a house...but it's NOT going to hit the same, and that can make folks feel like that house slot was wasted on a repeat.

 

[georgemoe]

Dollhouse of the Damned in 2014 had some great smells.

 

[tdmarshmallow]

Dollhouse of the Damned in 2014 had some great smells.

Nothing beats eating at Dino Digs when the original Psycoscareapy was at Discovery Center. THAT was a great house, the smell... well......

 

[Spooky_Bitz]

Nothing beats eating at Dino Digs when the original Psycoscareapy was at Discovery Center. THAT was a great house, the smell... well......

One of the RIP tour guides told me about how that went and yeah… that sounds rough for anyone eating there that year lol

 

[Legacy]

Does anybody know if Universal has ever considered doing a top five or any other number house of the past decade? Would be economical and I think be a draw. I’d love to take another walk through original Slaughter Sinema, Seeds of extinction or Dead man’s Pier (which I missed).

I think, honestly, the only way to really do this in a way that works is to bring back only one “legacy” house at a time, and on a notable anniversary of the house itself. And even that anniversary needs to be 15 or more years. For example, next year is the 25th (calendar) anniversary of Screamhouse. Bringing that house back would be unique because, even if someone went through it, it’s been so long any changes or updates made to the “mechanics” of it wouldn’t make a huge difference to the experience. The age also emphasizes that it’s NOT the same cast or experience. It’s essentially a re-master.

The risk you run into with bringing any house back is actually the house’s location. Unless it’s getting put in the same spot as before (and if it’s sharing a soundstage, assuming the other house in that location fits the shape), the house HAS to get resigned for it. But, again, the “legacy re-master” explanation implies that it’s not exactly the same.

Ultimately, though, I don’t think the risk is worth the reward. Nostalgia is always more appealing than reality, and lightning will almost never strike twice.

 

[tdmarshmallow]

How do we think the new express now passes will affect house wait times, and will it change the way you personally do the event?

 

[Kichkinet85]

How do we think the new express now passes will affect house wait times, and will it change the way you personally do the event?

There for day guest not HHN. HHN express is different.

 

[tdmarshmallow]

There for day guest not HHN. HHN express is different.

What is stopping them from doing Express Now at HHN?

 

[Mashmingingmasher77]

What is stopping them from doing Express Now at HHN?

 

[Parkscope Joe]

What is stopping them from doing Express Now at HHN?

Express Now is offered when there's a line for the attractiln but underutilized Express capacity. During HHN there is no underutlilized Express capacity.

 

[SeventyOne]

What is stopping them from doing Express Now at HHN?

In theory, nothing, In practice, the fact that they have zero trouble maxing out old-fashioned Express sales during HHN.

 

[Kichkinet85]

What is stopping them from doing Express Now at HHN?

Thet already have trouble with HHN express how it is. Adding the express now will just make it worse vs help.

 

[Clive]

Thet already have trouble with HHN express how it is. Adding the express now will just make it worse vs help.

It honestly still wouldn't shock me if they tried. How many people would've pulled the trigger on a Terrifier one-time Express pass last year after a few beers? What about Stranger Things?

 

[Parkscope Joe]

It honestly still wouldn't shock me if they tried. How many people would've pulled the trigger on a Terrifier one-time Express pass last year after a few beers? What about Stranger Things?

Then they're rejecting the current logic and planning to change the product.

 

[Casper Gutman]

Express Now is offered when there's a line for the attractiln but underutilized Express capacity. During HHN there is no underutlilized Express capacity.

I don’t fully follow this logic - an attraction doesn’t have “normal” and “express” capacity, it just has capacity. If the standby line is full and the express line is empty, all the capacity gets used by standby guests - nothing is “underutilized.” Perhaps I’m missing something, but the logic behind Express Now eludes me.

 

[tdmarshmallow]

Then they're rejecting the current logic and planning to change the product.

I don’t fully follow this logic - an attraction doesn’t have “normal” and “express” capacity, it just has capacity. If the standby line is full and the express line is empty, all the capacity gets used by standby guests - nothing is “underutilized.” Perhaps I’m missing something, but the logic behind Express Now eludes me.

Well, this is a bit away from my original query as to how Express Now might change people's plan on enjoying this year's event...

I don't want to really get into the deeper workings of all of this, nor do I think this is the forum to do so, but I would like to clarify my personal logic. I am not purvey to inside information on the inner workings of Express Now, but to me, the logic of it is two fold. To maximize revenue by taking unused express capacity and selling it as a separate product, but just as important is its ability to affect guest flow within the park.

Let's face it, many guests are not strategic when it comes to their theme park visits. Gasp. Shock. Clutch Pearls. I know we have all heard the expression that tourist leave their brains at home... People will be there in the first hour of the event when the house has a 5 min wait, and use their single use express pass. I've seen it happen too many times to count. People with frequent fear passes with express might not show up a particular night. Central Florida may decide to be Central Florida and half the park could be drenched with rain, while the other half is bone dry. A ride or house goes down for some reason. A myriad of factors affect guest flow around the park, and how many people are in a particular queue line or express line at a particular time. With express now, Universal theoretically has the ability to redirect some of the guests from one area of the park to another. For example, the sound stages are getting slammed, but the tents are slow. Universal can open up some immediate Express Now tickets for the tents. It gets pushed to everyone's phones. Some people will bite, and purchase, and leave the sound stage area and move to the tents. This is a way that Universal can affect guest flow.

But, in the long and the short of it, these products are always about maximizing revenue. I was an attractions host at Magic Kingdom in the late '90's when the original fast pass was put in place. I worked Jungle Cruise. We were the second attraction to get Fast Pass. We had to significantly change our operation, because we were too efficient to make fast pass work. Because Fast Pass (in it's original iteration) was never about saving guests time in line, it's goal was to get guests out of the physical line so that they would have time to be in merch shops/restaurants. The marketing to guests and cast was about Fast Pass saving guests time in line. The reality was it was always about guest flow and revenue maximization. The same is true about Express Now.

 

[Parkscope Joe]

Well, this is a bit away from my original query as to how Express Now might change people's plan on enjoying this year's event...

I don't want to really get into the deeper workings of all of this, nor do I think this is the forum to do so, but I would like to clarify my personal logic. I am not purvey to inside information on the inner workings of Express Now, but to me, the logic of it is two fold. To maximize revenue by taking unused express capacity and selling it as a separate product, but just as important is its ability to affect guest flow within the park.

Let's face it, many guests are not strategic when it comes to their theme park visits. Gasp. Shock. Clutch Pearls. I know we have all heard the expression that tourist leave their brains at home... People will be there in the first hour of the event when the house has a 5 min wait, and use their single use express pass. I've seen it happen too many times to count. People with frequent fear passes with express might not show up a particular night. Central Florida may decide to be Central Florida and half the park could be drenched with rain, while the other half is bone dry. A ride or house goes down for some reason. A myriad of factors affect guest flow around the park, and how many people are in a particular queue line or express line at a particular time. With express now, Universal theoretically has the ability to redirect some of the guests from one area of the park to another. For example, the sound stages are getting slammed, but the tents are slow. Universal can open up some immediate Express Now tickets for the tents. It gets pushed to everyone's phones. Some people will bite, and purchase, and leave the sound stage area and move to the tents. This is a way that Universal can affect guest flow.

But, in the long and the short of it, these products are always about maximizing revenue. I was an attractions host at Magic Kingdom in the late '90's when the original fast pass was put in place. I worked Jungle Cruise. We were the second attraction to get Fast Pass. We had to significantly change our operation, because we were too efficient to make fast pass work. Because Fast Pass (in it's original iteration) was never about saving guests time in line, it's goal was to get guests out of the physical line so that they would have time to be in merch shops/restaurants. The marketing to guests and cast was about Fast Pass saving guests time in line. The reality was it was always about guest flow and revenue maximization. The same is true about Express Now.

I explainded the logic of the product, not only from an elevator pitch but also the logic of how it actually works behind the tech. So they'd have to fundamentally change it to use Express Now at HHN to redirect guest flow. And Universal wants to sell guests on the $200+ regular Express over nickle and diming $20-25 Express from them. Look never say never, but lets just say I had the same questions and I too was shut down.