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Universal's Epic Universe Wish List & Speculation

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HHN Maddux said:
The biggest question...

With how great all these rides are sounding... Which one to rope drop on opening day? Right now I'm between DK and Frankenstein's Castle.

On one hand, I love the Donkey Kong Country series and the mine cart jumping coaster sounds amazing. On the other, I also love Forbidden Journey and the potential of that system going all in on the horror aspect with the classic monsters.
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Donkey Kong. I'm a big fan of the games and the capacity is gonna suck, so I'm going there first.
 
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Alicia said:
I still think it’s a family spinner. I still think it’ll be relegated to the theater footprint and courtyard. But will wait for further construction before deciding how I feel about these rumors.
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The main problem in my opinion is throughput. If this coaster is a small family coaster we may get another Pteranodon-flyers situation as a lot of guests could ride it and demand would be high. I hope it's a family coaster and has enough capacity to handle the demand.
 
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Quite honestly, I'll likely be saving Monsters for as close to closing time as possible
 
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Morning/afternoon in Nintendo doing all the rides and games and an evening in Monsters sounds about right for a first day at EU.
 
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tielo said:
The main problem in my opinion is throughput. If this coaster is a small family coaster we may get another Pteranodon-flyers situation as a lot of guests could ride it and demand would be high. I hope it's a family coaster and has enough capacity to handle the demand.
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Really depends on dispatch speeds. If the trains each carry 4 guests, they'll have to dispatch every 10 seconds like Forbidden Journey to reach 1,440 THRC. The fastest and most practical dispatch rate for any coaster would probably be in the ~20-25 secs range at the fastest which would significantly reduce its capacity.

If Universal can dispatch each train in 10 seconds, that would be spectacular.
 
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I hope the coaster is super loud and gets really close to your face so you're always afraid to die. There should be no escape from the terrifying death rattles of steel against steel penetrating the peace of your once serene vacation. A true horror experience, so to speak.
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it’s a kids coaster sir lol
 
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it’s a kids coaster sir lol
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Sounds like he's describing the land expansion.....
 
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it’s a kids coaster sir lol
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Kids should be tough. No ambiance, only fear.
 
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PerceptiveCoot said:
Kids should be tough. No ambiance, only fear.
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HHN all year round baby let's go
 
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I believe that a lot of these things away from the main coaster area aren't actually coaster footings.

Coaster supports in the middle of an access road don't make sense, but drainage/utility vaults there do. And the objects in those spots have no rebar on top like the obvious coaster footings do.

And the short rows of footings by the restaurants are really weird... they are closer together than I would expect for any coaster and seemingly aimed directly at the backs of the restaurants.
 
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Happytycho said:
I believe that a lot of these things away from the main coaster area aren't actually coaster footings.

Coaster supports in the middle of an access road don't make sense, but drainage/utility vaults there do. And the objects in those spots have no rebar on top like the obvious coaster footings do.

And the short rows of footings by the restaurants are really weird... they are closer together than I would expect for any coaster and seemingly aimed directly at the backs of the restaurants.
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So catacombs of Paris? Themed sewers......
 
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Happytycho said:
I believe that a lot of these things away from the main coaster area aren't actually coaster footings.

Coaster supports in the middle of an access road don't make sense, but drainage/utility vaults there do. And the objects in those spots have no rebar on top like the obvious coaster footings do.

And the short rows of footings by the restaurants are really weird... they are closer together than I would expect for any coaster and seemingly aimed directly at the backs of the restaurants.
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I think the small rows might be related to grease traps or something else for the restaurants yea.

While the additional shapes in the access road may not appear on the concrete footprint site plan, I bet they would show up in a pipe/utility schematic for the area.
 
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Those definitely are not coaster footers. Plumbing related. Hard to say for sure from that distance, but 3 separate grease traps with tall risers are the most likely answer. You can kinda tell the tops are sewer lids. I never looked at them that close until Alicia mentioned grease traps, but I'd say thats what those have to be.

And once you look at the rest of the "footers" leading across the front of the manor to these, you can see they aren't coaster footers either.
 
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fryoj said:
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Those definitely are not coaster footers. Plumbing related. Hard to say for sure from that distance, but 3 separate grease traps with tall risers are the most likely answer. You can kinda tell the tops are sewer lids. I never looked at them that close until Alicia mentioned grease traps, but I'd say thats what those have to be.

And once you look at the rest of the "footers" leading across the front of the manor to these, you can see they aren't coaster footers either.
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Hahaha. In any other park outside of Universal or Disney we'd be hoping the coaster would big bigger and take up more space. Here it's "please keep this within reason."
 
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You know who uses grease traps?

B&M

Definitely a Giga

Hell ya
 
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MagdolHauntsMe said:
Hahaha. In any other park outside of Universal or Disney we'd be hoping the coaster would big bigger and take up more space. Here it's "please keep this within reason."
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Haha this is a funny comparison.

Ultimately if it’s a good ride, we’ll be happy.
 
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MagdolHauntsMe said:
Hahaha. In any other park outside of Universal or Disney we'd be hoping the coaster would big bigger and take up more space. Here it's "please keep this within reason."
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I think this kind of gets to the distinction between theme parks and amusement parks, and what we expect/want from each.

That's probably a big enough discussion for its own thread at some point.
 
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belloq87 said:
I think this kind of gets to the distinction between theme parks and amusement parks, and what we expect/want from each.

That's probably a big enough discussion for its own thread at some point.
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I think you'd like this post by Jeremy at RCP

www.rollercoasterphilosophy.com

What Is A Theme Park?

By Jeremy Thompson Introduction “Theme Park.” “Amusement Park.” In the public sphere these terms are often viewed as interchangeable synonyms, and many professionals working in the themed entertain…
www.rollercoasterphilosophy.com www.rollercoasterphilosophy.com
 
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Joe said:
I think you'd like this post by Jeremy at RCP

www.rollercoasterphilosophy.com

What Is A Theme Park?

By Jeremy Thompson Introduction “Theme Park.” “Amusement Park.” In the public sphere these terms are often viewed as interchangeable synonyms, and many professionals working in the themed entertain…
www.rollercoasterphilosophy.com www.rollercoasterphilosophy.com
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That is truly excellent analysis.

We’re never going to have definitions of each term that everybody can agree on, so it comes down to our personal interpretation of what makes a theme park a theme park and an amusement park an amusement park. And even those can be hard to articulate.
 
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