Beyond Big Thunder Speculation

[TheUniC6]

Agreed about fit. No matter where it would be added, I think that RSR would become one of, if not the, most popular rides at Disney World. It is such a great ride and probably most indicative of just what WDI can create.

I wonder if they do plan on doing RSR maybe they will incorporate elements from Cars 3 and that show on Disney+?

 

[UPSguy]

Last I heard RSR and Villains were still in flux, and the locations of them were bouncing back and forth between DHS and MK

I'll admit my own bias here: I hate the Cars idea and I'm admittedly surprised it's not been immediately laughed off the thread. I just don't think it fits in theme with the surrounding areas, is a necessary addition to this specific park as an attraction, or would be a good use of one of the final large plots of expansion space they still have. I would much rather see any number of other things go there. Coco, Villainsland, any kind of New New Fantasyland or expanded Liberty/New Orleans Square concepts, but not Carsland in 2027-28.

We've been discussing Carsland in WDW for over a decade now. If it wasn't the right choice for Hollywood Studios in 2014, I don't see how it should be anything more than a last resort for Magic Kingdom in 2024. I doubt the idea that they can't afford to spend R&D on a new slate of lands/attractions, but if they honestly can't then they shouldn't build anything here at all.

I wouldn't put much stock in RSR going to Magic Kingdom, things could have changed but I don't think that was a serious proposal. Villains land is much more serious, WDI already built models for it.
Up until last summer, the executives felt that major expansion for DHS was done for the foreseeable future, luckily they changed their mind and DHS is making a serious play to get Villains for the park.

 

[TheUniC6]

I wouldn't put much stock in RSR going to Magic Kingdom, things could have changed but I don't think that was a serious proposal. Villains land is much more serious, WDI already built models for it.
Up until last summer, the executives felt that major expansion for DHS was done for the foreseeable future, luckily they changed their mind and DHS is making a serious play to get Villains for the park.

IMO, I think the Villains are the better fit for MK over DHS.

And if Villains does go into MK, there must be some back up plans for the DHS expansion. As for the IP, maybe they will do some sort of catch all land like Villains?

 

[UniversalRBLX]

Considering that rumors always get mixed up, I don't buy Cars Land in MK. I think Disney will announce one major attraction (outside Epcot?) for WDW/Domestic park, and I can't wrap my head around Cars at MK, while villains goes to DHS.

Unless, Villains is part of a "cheap" overlay of RNRC and ToT... Villains fits perfectly at MK.

 

[ReelJustice]

luckily they changed their mind and DHS is making a serious play to get Villains for the park.

Just when I thought rumors couldn't get any worse/sillier, I read this. I appreciate that Disney wants to build things, but if you're going to build things, at least try to put them in the parks they logically belong in.

 

[OrlLover]

Just when I thought rumors couldn't get any worse/sillier, I read this. I appreciate that Disney wants to build things, but if you're going to build things, at least try to put them in the parks they logically belong in.

Well at the end of the day these are just rumors so nothing to take serious until things are officially announced.

 

[saint.piss]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1781364788573941767

 

[Wdwcentral]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1781364788573941767

The "advantage" of removing the island in its entirety is better guest flow: HM needs more queue space, BTM has its backstage depot. Removing the river while a bad idea would allow for more paths

 

[belloq87]

There are logistic arguments in favor of getting rid of the river and the island.

Those arguments do not override what a loss it would be for the park to no longer have the kinetics and aesthetics (to say nothing of the loss of an Americana element that Walt himself really valued).

 

[UPSguy]

There are logistic arguments in favor of getting rid of the river and the island.

Those arguments do not override what a loss it would be for the park to no longer have the kinetics and aesthetics (to say nothing of the loss of an Americana element that Walt himself really valued).

Thankfully removing ROA isn't an option that's being considered anymore, because I agree with all of your points, especially the last one.

 

[saint.piss]

Stuff like this makes me so sad lol. I wish the parks here in the states (especially Disney World) got the same love as the international Disney parks. At this point I wouldn't mind them getting rid of It's A Small World at MK for that new Tangled ride, just turn it into a mini Tangled land since that Tangled bathroom area is nearby. Heres hoping they follow through with BBTM and improve Magic Kingdom

https://twitter.com/x/status/1788214915401916556

 

[UniversalRBLX]

Stuff like this makes me so sad lol. I wish the parks here in the states (especially Disney World) got the same love as the international Disney parks. At this point I wouldn't mind them getting rid of It's A Small World at MK for that new Tangled ride, just turn it into a mini Tangled land since that Tangled bathroom area is nearby. Heres hoping they follow through with BBTM and improve Magic Kingdom

https://twitter.com/x/status/1788214915401916556

To be fair, the domestic parks do get their fair share of expansions...we just have them spread out over more parks so it makes it feel like less.

Between the TDS & Fantasyland projects in Tokyo, they received (or will) 7 new major additions (Soarin, Peter Pan, Frozen, Tangled, Tinkerbell, Beauty & the Beast, Space Mountain) since 2012 last major addition at TDR (Toy Story Mania, Inc.)

WDW received 12 new* major additions since 2012 (Little Mermaid, Seven Dwarfs, Tron, GOTG, Frozen*, Remy, Rise, Falcon, Slinky, Runaway*, Flight of Passage, Na'vi).

Hong Kong Disneyland received 7 (Grizzly, Mystic, Frozen, Toy Story, Ant Man, Iron Man) major attractions/min-lands... for a park that was severely underbuilt.
Disneyland Paris... not even worth analyzing with nothing major happening over there lol

Easy to forget, but the last major addition for Tokyo Disneyland before these expansions efforts to the resort was in 2009 with Monsters, Inc. dark ride. TDR just runs a lot of anniversary celebrations/new parades that makes it feel like they're constantly churning out things.

 

[UNIrd]

Easy to forget, but the last major addition for Tokyo Disneyland before these expansions efforts to the resort was in 2009 with Monsters, Inc. dark ride. TDR just runs a lot of anniversary celebrations/new parades that makes it feel like they're constantly churning out things.

THIS PART. That was actually the time of my last visit and even though my friends have been wanting to go back since pre-pandemic, a little part of me has been like you know... there's not much different from our last visit. I think after Monsters Inc and before BATB, there had only been some clones (Soarin', Toy Story Mania).

I even noticed that on my first visit to the TDL park specifically. It's not that much there was fresher or newer than our parks. They just seemed to have done a great job MAINTAINING what was there, especially stuff that's been there since opening day. Like the Mickey Mouse Revue show I saw which was closing but still in great shape.

 

[OrlLover]

To be fair, the domestic parks do get their fair share of expansions...we just have them spread out over more parks so it makes it feel like less.

Between the TDS & Fantasyland projects in Tokyo, they received (or will) 7 new major additions (Soarin, Peter Pan, Frozen, Tangled, Tinkerbell, Beauty & the Beast, Space Mountain) since 2012 last major addition at TDR (Toy Story Mania, Inc.)

WDW received 12 new* major additions since 2012 (Little Mermaid, Seven Dwarfs, Tron, GOTG, Frozen*, Remy, Rise, Falcon, Slinky, Runaway*, Flight of Passage, Na'vi).

Hong Kong Disneyland received 7 (Grizzly, Mystic, Frozen, Toy Story, Ant Man, Iron Man) major attractions/min-lands... for a park that was severely underbuilt.
Disneyland Paris... not even worth analyzing with nothing major happening over there lol

Easy to forget, but the last major addition for Tokyo Disneyland before these expansions efforts to the resort was in 2009 with Monsters, Inc. dark ride. TDR just runs a lot of anniversary celebrations/new parades that makes it feel like they're constantly churning out things.

Some posters on WDWMagic were going in depth about TDL and how this Fantasy Springs expansion was literally a DECADE in the making and was sorely needed to help boost attendance.

They actually cut a lot of entertainment during Covid and it has never returned. A lot of locals weren’t really pleased with this so the OLC kicked into overdrive to get this major investment opened.

Even though is TDS is a really good second gate they haven’t really touched it or the castle park for a very long time as far as actual new rides is concerned since they opened.