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I believe the one between Nintendo and the front is what's been set for parade buildings/offices.

The one between Nintendo and Dark Universe is rumored for Luigi's Mansion, but it seems there could still be some room closer to Celestial Park for another expansion. Perhaps Waterworld, which I believe was mentioned by Alicia at one point to be considered for the plot? It's been a while though, I could be misremembering.

Of course the Dark Universe plot should be the home of Creature, but it's worth nothing there's also some room off to the side, next to Curse of Werewolf. Perhaps we could end up seeing that Wolfman show some day?

And of course the main big plot between WW and HTTYD, the fight between LotR and Wicked begins!
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I doubt WaterWorld ever comes to Florida. It's been so long now, just use another IP if you want a big show like that here. That show especially doesn't belong in Epic imo. As for Wicked vs LoTR... I'm team Wicked. LOTR would fit better in IOA since it's a famously literature based IP and having it across from Hogwarts would be so cool. Get rid of Toon Lagoon entirely and just put it there
 
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I doubt WaterWorld ever comes to Florida. It's been so long now, just use another IP if you want a big show like that here. That show especially doesn't belong in Epic imo. As for Wicked vs LoTR... I'm team Wicked. LOTR would fit better in IOA since it's a famously literature based IP and having it across from Hogwarts would be so cool. Get rid of Toon Lagoon entirely and just put it there
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I'll fully admit I'm a bit biased as Eighth Voyage of Sinbad and Waterworld were two of the first theme park attractions to really amaze me as a kid (finally got to see Waterworld in-person in 2023 and my excitement was that of a little kid walking into Disney for the first time lol), and I've just always wanted it over here, especially since we're the only Uni park to not have it! Heck, anyone with better knowledge please correct me if I'm wrong, but I believe it is rumored to even be coming to GB.

Stopping myself there cause I can go on for hours about that show, I'm Team LotR. While Wicked will make for a great land, I don't think it has enough material to justify getting a 20+ acre plot. LotR on the other hand...

(Plus Wicked would also fit the literature theme of IoA, Wizard of Oz and Wicked both originated as books!)
 
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HHN Maddux said:
I believe the one between Nintendo and the front is what's been set for parade buildings/offices.

The one between Nintendo and Dark Universe is rumored for Luigi's Mansion, but it seems there could still be some room closer to Celestial Park for another expansion. Perhaps Waterworld, which I believe was mentioned by Alicia at one point to be considered for the plot? It's been a while though, I could be misremembering.

Of course the Dark Universe plot should be the home of Creature, but it's worth nothing there's also some room off to the side, next to Curse of Werewolf. Perhaps we could end up seeing that Wolfman show some day?

And of course the main big plot between WW and HTTYD, the fight between LotR and Wicked begins!
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IIRC, I think it was mentioned the plot in the front of the park is slated for some sort of multipurpose event space.

The big plot will become home to something LOTR. Universal wants to fast track Wicked into the parks ASAP so I think that will more likely end up in IOA since they will want to build out the existing lands in EU before touching the 20 acre or so expansion plot.
 
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And of course the main big plot between WW and HTTYD, the fight between LotR and Wicked begins!
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I 100% believe that Wicked will eventually get an attraction at UOR, but I don't see them building it in that massive expansion plot. While it is popular, I don't think it warrants having the largest land in the entire park.

Lost Content, the back of USF, or the smaller expansion plot in-between SNW and Dark Universe would make more sense. Not to mention, I really doubt Universal will develop anything on that huge expansion plot for 10 years at the earliest, and I think we'll be getting a Wicked attraction/land much sooner than that.

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LOTR would fit better in IOA since it's a famously literature based IP and having it across from Hogwarts would be so cool. Get rid of Toon Lagoon entirely and just put it there
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As an multi-generational IP, Lord of The Rings is one of the few out there that matches Potter in popularity, if not exceeds it. Ever since Wizarding World first opened, LoTR has always been a fan request to be done with the same scale and detail. There are a ton of iconic locations from the franchise that would be wonderfully suited for a theme park environment, and I'm not sure there's enough space at either of the existing parks to do it justice.

Lord of The Rings is the only IP I can think of that is both popular enough to warrant that much space, and also has enough interesting locations within its world to fully utilize it, so I'm thinking it would be the best fit (assuming that they would be able to make a licensing agreement to actually do it).
 
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Stopping myself there cause I can go on for hours about that show, I'm Team LotR. While Wicked will make for a great land, I don't think it has enough material to justify getting a 20+ acre plot. LotR on the other hand...

(Plus Wicked would also fit the literature theme of IoA, Wizard of Oz and Wicked both originated as books!)
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LoTR is more famous as a book series though than Wizard of Oz/Wicked. People think of the movies when they think of those IPs, whereas with LOTR the books are just as successful as the movies. So imo, I still 100% believe it belongs in IoA. It fits with the theming of the park perfectly and if you get rid of Toon Lagoon entirely (the entire land+the theater) that's a lot of space for one land. If it's a huge success, get rid of Kong and expand into that land. I completely disagree about Wicked not having enough material to justify that huge plot. There's a lot to work with there with that IP. Also, they could use half of that space for Wicked and maybe expand HTTYD with the other half. I doubt whatever new IP comes next to EU will use the entirety of that space. Having Hogwarts/HP, Legend of Zelda and LOTR in the same park would just be so perfect. It makes too much sense in my eyes.

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As an multi-generational IP, Lord of The Rings is one of the few out there that matches Potter in popularity, if not exceeds it. Ever since Wizarding World first opened, LoTR has always been a fan request to be done with the same scale and detail. There are a ton of iconic locations from the franchise that would be wonderfully suited for a theme park environment, and I'm not sure there's enough space at either of the existing parks to do it justice.

Lord of The Rings is the only IP I can think of that is both popular enough to warrant that much space, and also has enough interesting locations within its world to fully utilize it, so I'm thinking it would be the best fit (assuming that they would be able to make a licensing agreement to actually do it).
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As I said previously I don't really understand why you guys think one IP is taking that huge space. I mean it's certainly possible, but I don't know. I just have a feeling whatever goes in that huge plot will be multiple IPs (at least one new IP, expansion for HTTYD or celestial park, or maybe a 2nd new IP.) not just one huge land. I don't disagree with you about the popularity of LOTR. I know it's generational. If they want to build multiple lands for it if the first one is a success put one in each of the parks. I'm not against that. But for now if it does happen I think it should go to IoA to start.

Edit: I also just want to add, I agree that at some point LoTR will come to the parks. But I also see a possibility that it doesn't. What if it goes to Universal Studios UK as an exclusive? I feel like that park will 90% likely have a LoTR to start and they might want to keep it that way for a long time. That park specifically is going to need a huge draw that isn't tied to anything from the current parks and that would be the biggest one besides Wicked they could use for USB.
 
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LoTR is more famous as a book series though than Wizard of Oz/Wicked. People think of the movies when they think of those IPs, whereas with LOTR the books are just as successful as the movies. So imo, I still 100% believe it belongs in IoA. It fits with the theming of the park perfectly and if you get rid of Toon Lagoon entirely (the entire land+the theater) that's a lot of space for one land. If it's a huge success, get rid of Kong and expand into that land. I completely disagree about Wicked not having enough material to justify that huge plot. There's a lot to work with there with that IP. Also, they could use half of that space for Wicked and maybe expand HTTYD with the other half. I doubt whatever new IP comes next to EU will use the entirety of that space. Having Hogwarts/HP, Legend of Zelda and LOTR in the same park would just be so perfect. It makes too much sense in my eyes.


As I said previously I don't really understand why you guys think one IP is taking that huge space. I mean it's certainly possible, but I don't know. I just have a feeling whatever goes in that huge plot will be multiple IPs (at least one new IP, expansion for HTTYD or celestial park, or maybe a 2nd new IP.) not just one huge land. I don't disagree with you about the popularity of LOTR. I know it's generational. If they want to build multiple lands for it if the first one is a success put one in each of the parks. I'm not against that. But for now if it does happen I think it should go to IoA to start.

Edit: I also just want to add, I agree that at some point LoTR will come to the parks. But I also see a possibility that it doesn't. What if it goes to Universal Studios UK as an exclusive? I feel like that park will 90% likely have a LoTR to start and they might want to keep it that way for a long time. That park specifically is going to need a huge draw that isn't tied to anything from the current parks and that would be the biggest one besides Wicked they could use for USB.
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UGB could kill two birds with one stone and have both Wicked and LOTR present at the park.

I see Wicked coming as lands to Orlando, UGB, Beijing, and Japan, (each one could be unique in some way) and maybe a single standalone ride replacing Simpsons at USH.
 
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I 100% believe that Wicked will eventually get an attraction at UOR, but I don't see them building it in that massive expansion plot. While it is popular, I don't think it warrants having the largest land in the entire park.

Lost Content, the back of USF, or the smaller expansion plot in-between SNW and Dark Universe would make more sense. Not to mention, I really doubt Universal will develop anything on that huge expansion plot for 10 years at the earliest, and I think we'll be getting a Wicked 0attraction/land much sooner than that.


As an multi-generational IP, Lord of The Rings is one of the few out there that matches Potter in popularity, if not exceeds it. Ever since Wizarding World first opened, pLoTR has always been a fan request to be done with the same scale and detail. There are a ton of iconic locations from the franchise that would be wonderfully suited for a theme park environment, and I'm not sure there's enough space at either of the existing parks to do it justice.

Lord of The Rings is the only IP I can think of that is both popular enough to warrant that much space, and also has enough interesting locations within its world to fully utilize it, so I'm thinking it would be the best fit (assuming that they would be able to make a licensing agreement to actually do it).
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if they used lotr in the parks, isn't the Hobbit also available for expanding?
which would cover so much. ( I don't know anything about the rights) but as a property, would they be able to use both?

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LoTR is more famous as a book series though than Wizard of Oz/Wicked. People think of the movies when they think of those IPs, whereas with LOTR the books are just as successful as the movies. So imo, I still 100% believe it belongs in IoA. It fits with the theming of the park perfectly and if you get rid of Toon Lagoon entirely (the entire land+the theater) that's a lot of space for one land. If it's a huge success, get rid of Kong and expand into that land. I completely disagree about Wicked not having enough material to justify that huge plot. There's a lot to work with there with that IP. Also, they could use half of that space for Wicked and maybe expand HTTYD with the other half. I doubt whatever new IP comes next to EU will use the entirety of that space. Having Hogwarts/HP, Legend of Zelda and LOTR in the same park would just be so perfect. It makes too much sense in my eyes.


As I said previously I don't really understand why you guys think one IP is taking that huge space. I mean it's certainly possible, but I don't know. I just have a feeling whatever goes in that huge plot will be multiple IPs (at least one new IP, expansion for HTTYD or celestial park, or maybe a 2nd new IP.) not just one huge land. I don't disagree with you about the popularity of LOTR. I know it's generational. If they want to build multiple lands for it if the first one is a success put one in each of the parks. I'm not against that. But for now if it does happen I think it should go to IoA to start.

Edit: I also just want to add, I agree that at some point LoTR will come to the parks. But I also see a possibility that it doesn't. What if it goes to Universal Studios UK as an exclusive? I feel like that park will 90% likely have a LoTR to start and they might want to keep it that way for a long time. That park specifically is going to need a huge draw that isn't tied to anything from the current parks and that would be the biggest one besides Wicked they could use for USB.
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I just wish that they used lotr in Halloween horror nights. to test it out. to bring it to the park before a land.
a house based on mordor and based on the orcs. no hobbits or anything but specifically used for the orcs and mount doom.
have the spider, have the witch king, have the evil eye. have the goblins, bring the nazgul dragons
maybe the rights owners wouldn't allow it, but it would be so amazing.
it would be so incredible. just to do it for hhn first and bring awareness to the property in relation to the parks.
 
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The problem with Wicked in Epic is that it’s a European-inspired city of whimsical stores, featuring wizards and witches. It’s conceptually too similar to France next door. It would be near identical to the neighboring land, except emerald-colored and more extra.

The problem with LOTR in Epic is that it’s visually a Euro-centric travelogue with dragons. It has a bit of cross-over with HTTYD in that regard. It also has some (minor) medieval-esque similarities to Dark Universe. That said, there’s less redundant imagery with LOTR in Epic than Wicked would have.

The best spot for Wicked as a balance to the rest of a park is IoA, Studios, then Epic. Ideally, it would actually take over Toon Lagoon with Emerald City on outside (Dudley/Amphitheater) and Shiz inside. The irony is that, based on ease of rebuild… Toon is the best place for LOTR.

The best spot for LOTR for balance is actually Studios, IoA, then Epic. Perfect world, both would probably go into IoA.

Epic needs a sci-fi, futuristic land. It’s a gaping hole because three of its four lands are, literally, “old Western Europe.” As much as I don’t like the IP, Ready Player One would actually be a great add. What ever it is, it needs to be as visually distinct as Tomorrowland is from the rest of Magic Kingdom.
 
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unless they replaced Simpsons with wicked or lotr. is Simpsons due for a replacement? ( or is that area for pokemon? or more DreamWorks?).
 
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The problem with Wicked in Epic is that it’s a European-inspired city of whimsical stores, featuring wizards and witches. It’s conceptually too similar to France next door. It would be near identical to the neighboring land, except emerald-colored and more extra.

The problem with LOTR in Epic is that it’s visually a Euro-centric travelogue with dragons. It has a bit of cross-over with HTTYD in that regard. It also has some (minor) medieval-esque similarities to Dark Universe. That said, there’s less redundant imagery with LOTR in Epic than Wicked would have.

The best spot for Wicked as a balance to the rest of a park is IoA, Studios, then Epic. Ideally, it would actually take over Toon Lagoon with Emerald City on outside (Dudley/Amphitheater) and Shiz inside. The irony is that, based on ease of rebuild… Toon is the best place for LOTR.

The best spot for LOTR for balance is actually Studios, IoA, then Epic. Perfect world, both would probably go into IoA.

Epic needs a sci-fi, futuristic land. It’s a gaping hole because three of its four lands are, literally, “old Western Europe.” As much as I don’t like the IP, Ready Player One would actually be a great add. What ever it is, it needs to be as visually distinct as Tomorrowland is from the rest of Magic Kingdom.
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I agree on Wicked, I don't think it's the best fit for Epic's massive expansion pad and I'd rather they use the tinier pad between SNW and Dark Universe for Nintendo, Dark Universe or something original tied to Celestial Park.

IOA is in desperate need of entertainment (and indoor offerings), while USF is covered in shows, so Toon Lagoon or Lost Continent fits. Now, I prefer if Wicked takes over Lost Continent since Toon Lagoon really just needs a retheme as the rides and experiences within the land have great foundations... they're just not popular characters. Meanwhile, Wicked can be a multi-level boat/dark ride in the PF spot.

As for LOTR, while it does have similarities to existing properties at Epic, it's still distinct enough from the other lands.
 
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The problem with Wicked in Epic is that it’s a European-inspired city of whimsical stores, featuring wizards and witches. It’s conceptually too similar to France next door. It would be near identical to the neighboring land, except emerald-colored and more extra.

The problem with LOTR in Epic is that it’s visually a Euro-centric travelogue with dragons. It has a bit of cross-over with HTTYD in that regard. It also has some (minor) medieval-esque similarities to Dark Universe. That said, there’s less redundant imagery with LOTR in Epic than Wicked would have.

The best spot for Wicked as a balance to the rest of a park is IoA, Studios, then Epic. Ideally, it would actually take over Toon Lagoon with Emerald City on outside (Dudley/Amphitheater) and Shiz inside. The irony is that, based on ease of rebuild… Toon is the best place for LOTR.

The best spot for LOTR for balance is actually Studios, IoA, then Epic. Perfect world, both would probably go into IoA.

Epic needs a sci-fi, futuristic land. It’s a gaping hole because three of its four lands are, literally, “old Western Europe.” As much as I don’t like the IP, Ready Player One would actually be a great add. What ever it is, it needs to be as visually distinct as Tomorrowland is from the rest of Magic Kingdom.
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Keep Studios mostly city backlots and bring Tokyo. London waterfront was great for adding to the world cities feel for example.
 
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unless they replaced Simpsons with wicked or lotr. is Simpsons due for a replacement? ( or is that area for pokemon? or more DreamWorks?).
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The prevailing rumor is that Pokemon is being eyeballed to take the place of Simpsons in USF once the contract lapses in 2028. However, since USH lacks space, an option for that park to get its Wicked fix would be to do a standalone ride that replaces Simpsons there.
 
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The problem with Wicked in Epic is that it’s a European-inspired city of whimsical stores, featuring wizards and witches. It’s conceptually too similar to France next door. It would be near identical to the neighboring land, except emerald-colored and more extra.

The problem with LOTR in Epic is that it’s visually a Euro-centric travelogue with dragons. It has a bit of cross-over with HTTYD in that regard. It also has some (minor) medieval-esque similarities to Dark Universe. That said, there’s less redundant imagery with LOTR in Epic than Wicked would have.

The best spot for Wicked as a balance to the rest of a park is IoA, Studios, then Epic. Ideally, it would actually take over Toon Lagoon with Emerald City on outside (Dudley/Amphitheater) and Shiz inside. The irony is that, based on ease of rebuild… Toon is the best place for LOTR.

The best spot for LOTR for balance is actually Studios, IoA, then Epic. Perfect world, both would probably go into IoA.

Epic needs a sci-fi, futuristic land. It’s a gaping hole because three of its four lands are, literally, “old Western Europe.” As much as I don’t like the IP, Ready Player One would actually be a great add. What ever it is, it needs to be as visually distinct as Tomorrowland is from the rest of Magic Kingdom.
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I always thought Universal should look into Star Trek as an attraction/ land even before Fan Fest. Given that the Abrams movies fell off and the shows on Paramount + are doing ok, I don't know if a full land could be justified, but I think it would be nice to have sci-fi in just about any of the parks.
 
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These are times that I wish Six Flags didn't have the DC license locked up for the next like 40 years. Those characters deserve so much better theme park representation and it's crazy to think about what Universal would do with Batman or Superman. A Gotham City/Metropolis/DC Universe portal would be incredible.
 
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I always thought Universal should look into Star Trek as an attraction/ land even before Fan Fest. Given that the Abrams movies fell off and the shows on Paramount + are doing ok, I don't know if a full land could be justified, but I think it would be nice to have sci-fi in just about any of the parks.
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I don't think it's all that likely to get a land, since it isn't as popular as it once was, and the franchise lacks a centralized location that could be easily adapted into a theme park. An attraction based on the IP could happen one day, but it would be smart to base it on the classic series or The Next Generation to make it as timeless as possible.
 
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I don't personally think Star Trek has the draw(anymore at least), but it fills the Sci-Fi box legacy had mentioned. Would i be thrilled to learn Star Trek is coming to Epic? Maybe? I don't know. I'd need to hear what it would offer cause to me, an IP like that just doesn't need the 20 acre footprint. To me, that SCREAMS LotR. How else can we get everything fans expect to immerse themselves with outside of a footprint like that? There are people saying we need to see The Shire and Rivendell, while another party would want Erebor or Minis Tirith. With that much land you could seriously do a lot. It's the only thing that makes sense in my head and i actually think it being a mid-point theme BETWEEN HP and HtTYD HELPS instead of HURTS the IP because it will all blend into one another. You wouldn't bat an eye seeing dragons flying around next door from a LotR land. If it were Star Trek or some other sci-fi... it'd be a little immersion breaking imo.

I'm also firmly in the Wicked should take Lost Continent spot at IoA boat. Retheme Mythos. Take the Sinbad show and make it a singing and dancing special effects extravaganza. Turn what used to be Poseidon's Fury into a dark ride/boat ride or even that ride system where it starts as a boat and then gets picked up to start flying. Let it be Universal's answer to Shanghai Pirates of the Caribbean ride system. You have the blueprints of a 3 way PERFECT ratio of how to use that IP. It's a MUSICAL. Give us a LIVE SHOW. It's extra. Give us a cool restaurant. It's magical. Give us a dark-ride. We seriously do not need anything more than that. I don't think Legend of Zelda is happening there anymore. And i do think Toon Lagoon needs to be converted to something else, but i don't think 'water rides' when i think Wicked and i don't think they'd get rid of BOTH of them if and when they give that area a major upgrade. I liked the Spongebob idea i've seen elsewhere in this forum. Water rides make sense with that! It would be a quick and cost effective change to keep the rides the same and simply change them to be different themes. Bikini Bottom, Krusty Krab, two water rides get a face-lift, bingo-bango. Done.

As for UOR, if someone like Alicia says TOKYO - i say GODZILLA. We have Kong in IoA. Bring the G-Man to UOR. Let's get Kongfrontation back in a way we never expected - with a big lizard instead. If Pokemon is truly coming to take over Simpsons, then it would not be culture-shock at all to blow up Fear Factor and transition from the London waterfront to a small Tokyo lot. If that acts as a small bridge from Tokyo to Pokemon and if we lose Men in Black in the process, so be it. Maybe getting rid of Men in Black finally frees up Ghostbusters to get installed over in New York as a cool shoot em up dark ride. And before anyone says, but we're getting Luigi's Mansion over in Nintendo and that's going to be a cool shoot em up dark ride with ghosts? Yeah, but that's never stopped Universal from cloning a cool idea and moving it somewhere else. Spider-Man: Transformers. King Kong: Supercharged. Forbidden Journey: Monsters Unchained. We can have similar things in different parks. The IPs that work, work for a reason!
 
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1) Folks love going to Orlando and being in the warm weather. I remember one trip when my friends demanded we stay outside at Trader Sam's because they didn't want to fly to Florida and stay inside. It's a thing.

2) Where to put wicked, I could see Emerald City in USF and Shiz in IOA. But they wouldn't do that again with a unique form of transportation... right?
 
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  • Feb 28, 2025
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Legacy said:
The problem with Wicked in Epic is that it’s a European-inspired city of whimsical stores, featuring wizards and witches. It’s conceptually too similar to France next door. It would be near identical to the neighboring land, except emerald-colored and more extra.

The problem with LOTR in Epic is that it’s visually a Euro-centric travelogue with dragons. It has a bit of cross-over with HTTYD in that regard. It also has some (minor) medieval-esque similarities to Dark Universe. That said, there’s less redundant imagery with LOTR in Epic than Wicked would have.

The best spot for Wicked as a balance to the rest of a park is IoA, Studios, then Epic. Ideally, it would actually take over Toon Lagoon with Emerald City on outside (Dudley/Amphitheater) and Shiz inside. The irony is that, based on ease of rebuild… Toon is the best place for LOTR.

The best spot for LOTR for balance is actually Studios, IoA, then Epic. Perfect world, both would probably go into IoA.

Epic needs a sci-fi, futuristic land. It’s a gaping hole because three of its four lands are, literally, “old Western Europe.” As much as I don’t like the IP, Ready Player One would actually be a great add. What ever it is, it needs to be as visually distinct as Tomorrowland is from the rest of Magic Kingdom.
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Overall I agree with all this.

The 20 acre plot would be hard to divide into two lands (as some have suggested) because of it's long neck...by the time you get people back there and then have two portals/plazas, you've wasted too much land that could have been used for an extended immersive entry-approach.

A sci-fi futuristic IP would be a good, complementary flavor to bring in but hard to identify sci-fi IPs huge enough to justify this much land (Star Trek is not relevant enough anymore, in my opinion) and they may encounter "the Tomorrowland problem" with anything attempting to truly be futuristic. Galaxy's Edge is only 14 acres but feels too big to many. But a gritty, Blade Runner-esque cyberpunk city would be amazing, with lots of interactive role-play mystery-solving potential.

DC Comics would be ideal though: a huge multi-generational IP not exploited at this level in theme parks with many well-known characters, exciting stories, environments, merch. I think I read somewhere the Six Flags license expires in 2050 and even then, realistically probably not available unless Comcast acquires Warner Bros. or the IP. But a fully immersive Gotham City at the scale and level of detail as Ministry of Magic would be stunning. Or, with 20 acres and a single portal, you could have one DC Comics portal and three mini-lands: Gotham City...Metropolis....and Themyscira (a great place for a kid's interactive play area).

Alicia said:
Keep Studios mostly city backlots and bring Tokyo. London waterfront was great for adding to the world cities feel for example.
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Couldn't agree more. I think with three theme parks, it's essential that each one has a unique feel, and urban streets inspired by places in the world is what USF could focus on..inspired by the Hollywood backlot history. To the extent IOA and Epic are both fantastical, I think if USF is more grounded in reality (at least the "lands" even if the attractions include fantastic intrusions, moments, action) it would be distinctive (kind of like how Epcot's World Showcase was distinctive from Magic Kingdom). I'd love a 1960s Tokyo with kaiju (and Japanese food and shopping of course).
 
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LPCaptainDeath said:
Bring the G-Man to UOR.
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Fully agree. Half-Life should be the “sci-fi” land for EU. Imagine a MIB style shooter with practical effects, headcrabs and Combine soldiers attacking your vehicle. Only half-joking…

Godzilla definitely needs to make it to the parks somehow. That would be amazing and a perfect fit. Even just a Skull Island overhaul to make it Godzilla Vs Kong would be hype
 
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DrStarlander said:
DC Comics would be ideal though: a huge multi-generational IP not exploited at this level in theme parks with many well-known characters, exciting stories, environments, merch. I think I read somewhere the Six Flags license expires in 2050 and even then, realistically probably not available unless Comcast acquires Warner Bros. or the IP. But a fully immersive Gotham City at the scale and level of detail as Minitry of Magic would be stunning. Or, with 20 acres and a single portal, you could have one DC Comics portal and three mini-lands: Gotham City...Metropolis....and Themyscira (a great place for a kid's interactive play area).
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A Universal DC land would blow Avengers Campus out of the water no matter what they did or where they put it. Universals in house IP thus far for the parks is a little lacking and getting WB would solve that beyond DC.
 
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