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I assume the video Universal released yesterday where they said they have things in the works for all of their parks. I am not moved by that video, particularly. I’ll pay attention when they’ve actually got something to announce.
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Fair. :lol:

I'll celebrate when the dirt moves on the VB expansion, though.
 
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I'll celebrate when the dirt moves on the VB expansion, though.
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Celebratory mai tais all around the first time I see a construction trailer on site.
 
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I want to meet Frau Blücher :lmao:
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I want to meet Inga
 
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I want to meet Inga
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And go for a roll in the hay? :lmao:
 
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And go for a roll in the hay? :lmao:
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Is Young Frankenstein a Universal Movie? If so they need to have meet and greets for special events or something. Would be hilarious
 
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I assume the video Universal released yesterday where they said they have things in the works for all of their parks. I am not moved by that video, particularly. I’ll pay attention when they’ve actually got something to announce.
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Yeah, I've always thought it was safe to assume that they probably have several attractions "in the works" at all times.
 
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Is Young Frankenstein a Universal Movie? If so they need to have meet and greets for special events or something. Would be hilarious
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Alas, it is 20th century fox
 
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Regarding SNW Expansion & Monsters.

While Zelda has been the lead rumor for Lost Continent's replacement... it's starting to feel stale. I'm sure the franchise sells well, but (I'm going to assume) that a Wicked presence is preferred at the parks. However, that doesn't mean that Zelda should be completely ignored.

Super Nintendo World
Luigi's Mansion -
another mini-land within the SNW Universe. Similar to DK Country, it'll be small & compact. E-ticket will be an interactive Omnimover experience or trackless dark ride.
The Legend of Zelda - will feature a portal from the hub and make SNW a complete circle experience. (Zelda connected to Luigi's Mansion section of SNW.) Will feature a flight simulator attraction or show as the e-ticket. A small interactive playground/area will be the land's 2nd experience.


Dark Universe
Creature from the Black Lagoon - boat ride experience that focuses on place setting versus action like Pirates of the Caribbean. Will be family-friendly in height requirement.



(Let me know if I need to move to Blue Sky)
 
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Regarding SNW Expansion & Monsters.

While Zelda has been the lead rumor for Lost Continent's replacement... it's starting to feel stale. I'm sure the franchise sells well, but (I'm going to assume) that a Wicked presence is preferred at the parks. However, that doesn't mean that Zelda should be completely ignored.

Super Nintendo World
Luigi's Mansion -
another mini-land within the SNW Universe. Similar to DK Country, it'll be small & compact. E-ticket will be an interactive Omnimover experience or trackless dark ride.
The Legend of Zelda - will feature a portal from the hub and make SNW a complete circle experience. (Zelda connected to Luigi's Mansion section of SNW.) Will feature a flight simulator attraction or show as the e-ticket. A small interactive playground/area will be the land's 2nd experience.


Dark Universe
Creature from the Black Lagoon - boat ride experience that focuses on place setting versus action like Pirates of the Caribbean. Will be family-friendly in height requirement.



(Let me know if I need to move to Blue Sky)
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Only thing I'd change about this is switching the sizes of the Luigi's Mansion and Zelda E-tickets. Also the backstage access to Pizza Moon is a little sketch, but I suppose DCA manages under similar conditions.
 
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UniversalRBLX said:
View attachment 25253
Regarding SNW Expansion & Monsters.

While Zelda has been the lead rumor for Lost Continent's replacement... it's starting to feel stale. I'm sure the franchise sells well, but (I'm going to assume) that a Wicked presence is preferred at the parks. However, that doesn't mean that Zelda should be completely ignored.

Super Nintendo World
Luigi's Mansion -
another mini-land within the SNW Universe. Similar to DK Country, it'll be small & compact. E-ticket will be an interactive Omnimover experience or trackless dark ride.
The Legend of Zelda - will feature a portal from the hub and make SNW a complete circle experience. (Zelda connected to Luigi's Mansion section of SNW.) Will feature a flight simulator attraction or show as the e-ticket. A small interactive playground/area will be the land's 2nd experience.


Dark Universe
Creature from the Black Lagoon - boat ride experience that focuses on place setting versus action like Pirates of the Caribbean. Will be family-friendly in height requirement.



(Let me know if I need to move to Blue Sky)
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I’m obsessed with this idea and would welcome it in a heartbeat!
 
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UniversalRBLX said:
View attachment 25253
Regarding SNW Expansion & Monsters.

While Zelda has been the lead rumor for Lost Continent's replacement... it's starting to feel stale. I'm sure the franchise sells well, but (I'm going to assume) that a Wicked presence is preferred at the parks. However, that doesn't mean that Zelda should be completely ignored.

Super Nintendo World
Luigi's Mansion -
another mini-land within the SNW Universe. Similar to DK Country, it'll be small & compact. E-ticket will be an interactive Omnimover experience or trackless dark ride.
The Legend of Zelda - will feature a portal from the hub and make SNW a complete circle experience. (Zelda connected to Luigi's Mansion section of SNW.) Will feature a flight simulator attraction or show as the e-ticket. A small interactive playground/area will be the land's 2nd experience.


Dark Universe
Creature from the Black Lagoon - boat ride experience that focuses on place setting versus action like Pirates of the Caribbean. Will be family-friendly in height requirement.



(Let me know if I need to move to Blue Sky)
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This is literally my current guess.

PerceptiveCoot said:
Only thing I'd change about this is switching the sizes of the Luigi's Mansion and Zelda E-tickets.
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The actual expansion plot has been divided this way for a while now, so that’s probably why @UniversalRBLX drew it that way.
 
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The actual expansion plot has been divided this way for a while now, so that’s probably why @UniversalRBLX drew it that way.
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Do you mean that Universal's internal plans divide the 8 acres of expansion to the right of SNW in this way, or that there are already visible lines of delineation dividing the land this way. I think I lack context here.
 
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UniversalRBLX said:
View attachment 25253
Regarding SNW Expansion & Monsters.

While Zelda has been the lead rumor for Lost Continent's replacement... it's starting to feel stale. I'm sure the franchise sells well, but (I'm going to assume) that a Wicked presence is preferred at the parks. However, that doesn't mean that Zelda should be completely ignored.

Super Nintendo World
Luigi's Mansion -
another mini-land within the SNW Universe. Similar to DK Country, it'll be small & compact. E-ticket will be an interactive Omnimover experience or trackless dark ride.
The Legend of Zelda - will feature a portal from the hub and make SNW a complete circle experience. (Zelda connected to Luigi's Mansion section of SNW.) Will feature a flight simulator attraction or show as the e-ticket. A small interactive playground/area will be the land's 2nd experience.


Dark Universe
Creature from the Black Lagoon - boat ride experience that focuses on place setting versus action like Pirates of the Caribbean. Will be family-friendly in height requirement.



(Let me know if I need to move to Blue Sky)
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Featuring the best PIZZA MOON collab we could ever imagine or hope for...
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Very interesting.
Of the Mario adjacent IPs, LM would best transition into Zelda as LM is all about old architecture and forests, a Zelda staple, and in addition:
- Zelda has enough thematics to make good use of that portal transition to Celestial with multiple options
- Zeldas propencity for castle towns and carnival games gives it a great excuse to have immersive side attractions.

Thing I can see being problematic, counter-arguments, alterations (assuming not further Zelda expansions anywhere else):

-Depending on what Zelda local you put here, LM fit better closer to Darkmoor than Zelda, but LM also has the attracting force of feeling like it needs to attach to its fellow Mario IPs. A conundrum, but maybe one that can be fixed.
-Zelda is an IP with much more grandeur than LM, so while I wouldn't like it, LM can plausibly finagle a fit in that corner, where in contrast I feel Zelda only just matching Mario's footprint and condensing any of Zeldas locals as proposed might be a wasted opportunity.
- To expound here's how I see the potential of your proposed layout, its well done as I can grasp a semblance of something like a cove or pass way through mountains, which certainly mimics the transitions from Hyrule Field to several locations etc. but unless I could guaranteed Zelda would also expands somewhere else it feels like it lacks the parameters for Zelda's biggest icons.
  • Hyrule Castle Town: Needs the Castle, needs the Town, as always forced perspective is our friend, and they've certainly done similar cramming in Mario Land, but the castle doesn't provide any big ideas for a matching E Ticket, where ideally it would be one of multiple facades for a larger land​
  • Zoras Domain: more flexible in the constricted space, but a very odd place to have by itself, Zoras and Water rides are cool, and they'd certainly make the best transition to black lagoon, but they don't have what it takes to carry the whole brand by themselves and a water ride would need more space than this.​
  • Death Mountain: Same thing for Gorons, too specific, with the added problem that Death mountain is one of biggest locations, and its E-ticket would beg for a mine kart/lava theme stepping on DKs toes with another small coaster unbefitting its premise.​
  • Temple of Time: Okay, this one actually fits the footprint and has an magical and godly excuse for having a smaller simulator ride, It facade could matches both LM and Darkmoor if done correctly, and while the ride would need creativity its would also be the most flexible, making this is one of the better options​
  • Hyrule Field: Best saved for a mural as some other location's horizon wall, unless there was an entire Theme Park designated to Zelda, Lon Lon Ranch and empty grasslands are too big for what they provide, we go to the county fair for much cheaper if we have a hankering for horses​
  • Lake Hylia: Same, best leave fishing to the real lakes out in the world​
  • Kakariko: At first glance the most likely icon to fit at the cost of having nothing to base an E-attraction on, except that is merely a ruse because they could go real hard on this given they have a ginormous excuse to have this land secretly be the Dark Temple under the Kakariko Graveyard/well, making an excuse for an elevated land with deep basements, basements they'll want anyway across the expansion for LM to support and expand both rides, but also being a huge flavor synergy together and with Darkmoor next door. This would be the first idea I feel like where it would be worth it to not just let LM have the whole plot and put all of Zelda somewhere else, and that makes it my favorite to win! EDIT: I just realized you could just let LM be part of the village, no need to even try cordon it off or waste space erecting a division wall.​
  • Gerudo Desert: Any excuse for Gerudo Cosplayers is great but bandits and Desert cliffsides aren't exactly the most fun place to be, and like the other races, a bit too specific for Zeldas first land, and lesser E-ticket potential because there's no room to have wide open sands and a spirit temple for that mummy connection to monsters.​
  • Deku Tree: Kokiri Village has one of the best excuses for being small and hallway like with various side attractions, Koroks (and pikmin) would likely be incorporate heavily here for cute mascot bait, the Lost Woods make for a wonderful trnasition and sountrack for the land from celestial and into LM. and Finall the DK Tree has content for a cool E ticket while also be a Location with big excuses to have tower-esque ride building, once again with a basement. The 2nd best option IMO you could put here if you had to.

    I'm not saying by contrast a Zelda expansion where it didn't have to share would fit everything, but much more than Mario, DK, or LM that don't have such a wonderful breadth of locals, I would certainly want more than one with a focus on covering the most ground possible. SO even with the best options here, I'd still kinda want Zelda to have its own big World.​
 
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The actual expansion plot has been divided this way for a while now, so that’s probably why @UniversalRBLX drew it that way.
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Id like to see where this information comes from originally so I have full context, but given its truth, I'll keep in mind they seem to be die hard on keeping the big attractions backs to the perimeter, which isn't illogical and nice to be confirmed. I welcome the limitation though, because the more plausible our speculative proposals the better.
 
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Very interesting.
Of the Mario adjacent IPs, LM would best transition into Zelda as LM is all about old architecture and forests, a Zelda staple, and in addition:
- Zelda has enough thematics to make good use of that portal transition to Celestial with multiple options
- Zeldas propencity for castle towns and carnival games gives it a great excuse to have immersive side attractions.

Thing I can see being problematic, counter-arguments, alterations (assuming not further Zelda expansions anywhere else):

-Depending on what Zelda local you put here, LM fit better closer to Darkmoor than Zelda, but LM also has the attracting force of feeling like it needs to attach to its fellow Mario IPs. A conundrum, but maybe one that can be fixed.
-Zelda is an IP with much more grandeur than LM, so while I wouldn't like it, LM can plausibly finagle a fit in that corner, where in contrast I feel Zelda only just matching Mario's footprint and condensing any of Zeldas locals as proposed might be a wasted opportunity.
- To expound here's how I see the potential of your proposed layout, its well done as I can grasp a semblance of something like a cove or pass way through mountains, which certainly mimics the transitions from Hyrule Field to several locations etc. but unless I could guaranteed Zelda would also expands somewhere else it feels like it lacks the parameters for Zelda's biggest icons.
  • Hyrule Castle Town: Needs the Castle, needs the Town, as always forced perspective is our friend, and they've certainly done similar cramming in Mario Land, but the castle doesn't provide any big ideas for a matching E Ticket, where ideally it would be one of multiple facades for a larger land​
  • Zoras Domain: more flexible in the constricted space, but a very odd place to have by itself, Zoras and Water rides are cool, and they'd certainly make the best transition to black lagoon, but they don't have what it takes to carry the whole brand by themselves and a water ride would need more space than this.​
  • Death Mountain: Same thing for Gorons, too specific, with the added problem that Death mountain is one of biggest locations, and its E-ticket would beg for a mine kart/lava theme stepping on DKs toes with another small coaster unbefitting its premise.​
  • Temple of Time: Okay, this one actually fits the footprint and has an magical and godly excuse for having a smaller simulator ride, It facade could matches both LM and Darkmoor if done correctly, and while the ride would need creativity its would also be the most flexible, making this is one of the better options​
  • Hyrule Field: Best saved for a mural as some other location's horizon wall, unless there was an entire Theme Park designated to Zelda, Lon Lon Ranch and empty grasslands are too big for what they provide, we go to the county fair for much cheaper if we have a hankering for horses​
  • Lake Hylia: Same, best leave fishing to the real lakes out in the world​
  • Kakariko: At first glance the most likely icon to fit at the cost of having nothing to base an E-attraction on, except that is merely a ruse because they could go real hard on this given they have a ginormous excuse to have this land secretly be the Dark Temple under the Kakariko Graveyard/well, making an excuse for an elevated land with deep basements, basements they'll want anyway across the expansion for LM to support and expand both rides, but also being a huge flavor synergy together and with Darkmoor next door. This would be the first idea I feel like where it would be worth it to not just let LM have the whole plot and put all of Zelda somewhere else, and that makes it my favorite to win!​
  • Gerudo Desert: Any excuse for Gerudo Cosplayers is great but bandits and Desert cliffsides aren't exactly the most fun place to be, and like the other races, a bit too specific for Zeldas first land, and lesser E-ticket potential because there's no room to have wide open sands and a spirit temple for that mummy connection to monsters.​
  • Deku Tree: Kokiri Village has one of the best excuses for being small and hallway like with various side attractions, Koroks (and pikmin) would likely be incorporate heavily here for cute mascot bait, the Lost Woods make for a wonderful trnasition and sountrack for the land from celestial and into LM. and Finall the DK Tree has content for a cool E ticket while also be a Location with big excuses to have tower-esque ride building, once again with a basement. The 2nd best option IMO you could put here if you had to.

    I'm not saying by contrast a Zelda expansion where it didn't have to share would fit everything, but much more than Mario, DK, or LM that don't have such a wonderful breadth of locals, I would certainly want more than one with a focus on covering the most ground possible. SO even with the best options here, I'd still kinda want Zelda to have its own big World.​
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Donkey Kong Country > jungle woods leads to spooky woods transition > Luigi's Mansion ride* with E Gadd gift shop and treats ft. mini games for the power up bands brought to you by King Boo and/or Goo-igi > spooky woods fade into lost woods transition > Kokiri Village ft. mini games for the power up bands brought to you by the Koroks and/or Fairies > Deku Tree restaurant behind Pizza Moon > Sacred Grove w/ Master Sword in stone photo-op > Temple of Time ride** with forced perspective facade "in distance"

*For the LM ride, i think the general consensus is for fun interactive dark ride like Haunted Mansion meets Ghost Busters. Omni-mover with cool integration of screens AND practical effects. Easy, especially considering how beautiful the interior of the Mario Kart ride looks. E Gadd gift shop exit treated as his lab where he came up with the 'tech' found on the ride with opportunity to look into other things he's been developing to take home, whether they be fun toys, snacks, and/or plushies of ghosts; I'm looking at you, Polterpup.

**For the LoZ, i'd personally love to see a Spiderman/Transformers system redone with practical sets and animatronics and SOME screens. If they could do it with Forbidden Journey to give us Monsters Unchained, we can get an upgraded dark-ride for Zelda. Take the walls off the cars, let people look around at the crazy dungeons/transitions/surroundings. Have the plot be told by the "it's dangerous to go alone" style old man or King of Hyrule about some time-travel McGuffin (Master Sword?) with Link and Zelda and Ganon in the mix - bingo bango, we get the sword, we banish the bad guy, done - cue exit through Tingle's gift shop ft. Happy Mask Salesman.
 
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This is literally my current guess.


The actual expansion plot has been divided this way for a while now, so that’s probably why @UniversalRBLX drew it that way.
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Current guess as in the Zelda rumors are switching to Epic over LC?
 
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I have it on good authority that Universal will address Dark Universe and Wizarding World respectively with it's first 2 expansions. The 1st will be called Metaluna Mutant's Midway Games. 2nd will be Albus & Aberforth's Arcade.
 
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Do you mean that Universal's internal plans divide the 8 acres of expansion to the right of SNW in this way, or that there are already visible lines of delineation dividing the land this way. I think I lack context here.
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I second this question.
 
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E Gadd gift shop and treats ft. mini games for the power up bands brought to you by King Boo and/or Goo-igi
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Exactly, I want that Portrait Gallery, and surrounding power up mini games could also draw on the themes of the ghosts not already incorporated into the ride, or maybe both I suppose, so we have options like Billiards, Piano, Strength tester, Painting, Star Gazing, Fortune Telling etc. Food of some sort based on Mr. Luggs!

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Master Sword in stone photo-op
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Oh yes, whatever, wherever Zelda Happens the Master Sword, Shield and the Tri-force are a #1 must haves, and if they do end up getting a bigger space, maybe all kinds of various easter eggs and mcguffins from every game such as the Ocarina, Wind Waker, Majoras Mask, Sheikah Slate etc.

LPCaptainDeath said:
For the LM ride, i think the general consensus is for fun interactive dark ride like Haunted Mansion meets Ghost Busters. Omni-mover with cool integration of screens AND practical effects] ... [E Gadd gift shop exit treated as his lab where he came up with the 'tech' found on the ride with opportunity to look into other things he's been developing to take home, whether they be fun toys, snacks, and/or plushies of ghosts; I'm looking at you, Polterpup.
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Perfect, no notes, and although I do so loath Polterpup, I understand his corporate manufactured casual appeal makes the :clover: moneeeey :clover: :cool:

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**For the LoZ, i'd personally love to see a Spiderman/Transformers system redone with practical sets and animatronics and SOME screens. If they could do it with Forbidden Journey to give us Monsters Unchained, we can get an upgraded dark-ride for Zelda.
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Exactly, although to go full moving dark ride and do it justice I feel Zelda needs it own space, going off UniversalRBLX's proposal it would have just above half the dark ride sqr footage as all the other big dark rides without even accounting for the que, so it would need at least that much to have a full dungeon experience IMO, which I'm afraid Zelda cant get by sharing SNWs expansion.

Otherwise, circling back to it, having a simpler Sim in the Temple of Time would be good for limited space. and I love to keep repeating it but LM could really do with an underground basement level and if one area gets one, both getting one would be too easy.
 
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