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Fast & Furious: Supercharged - General Discussion

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UniversalRBLX said:
I don't think they need to do too much. If this is being done for the sake of giving USF something quick, doubt they go that far.

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If this project is being done with a limited budget, spend most of it on the ride experience, not the area IMO. SF with signage and painting will transform to Hill Valley over night.
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Yes, Hill Valley already has that central California vibe that San Fran has. The only major change I can think of would be the entrance transitioning to courthouse square, but the bones are already there and they’d just need new facades
 
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A really small percentage of Broadway musicals are memorable and have lasting power. One reason they bring back all the old classics for new runs. And the traveling musicals are generally the classics, since subscribers are more apt to buy tickets for those than the new stuff, unless its a mega hit like Hamilton/Wicked/Jersey Boys. So, I really wouldn't put credence into BTTF not being a huge hit musical. Those are few and far between, and have less to do with the subject matter than with the creative process and a little bit of luck....Then there's Spiderman. Huge IP, lousy musical. But that doesn't mean Spiderman is unpopular.
 
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belloq87 said:
I can't find the exact quote over on WDWMagic's boards, but Len Testa (who is somebody who does have connections) has said that he's heard the next USF project on the docket after the HRRR replacement is something BTTF-related replacing Supercharged.

And nobody else is readily shooting it down.
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Awesome! Thank you for clarifying :)
 
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UniversalRBLX said:
I don't think they need to do too much. If this is being done for the sake of giving USF something quick, doubt they go that far.

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If this project is being done with a limited budget, spend most of it on the ride experience, not the area IMO. SF with signage and painting will transform to Hill Valley over night.
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I think, if it's really just a reskin - it absolutely has to end like you said. I mentioned it earlier, but this ride system absolutely has to have a "finale scene" like Kong does.

A Monsters-level AA of Doc/Marty along with the DeLorean is a perfect way to do it.
 
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I think, if it's really just a reskin - it absolutely has to end like you said. I mentioned it earlier, but this ride system absolutely has to have a "finale scene" like Kong does.

A Monsters-level AA of Doc/Marty along with the DeLorean is a perfect way to do it.
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And to be fair, BTTF the ride was a simulator and is considered one of the greats. This would simply take that concept and expand it. The 360 scene would be a modern version of BTTF the ride but everything else would be a net gain with new physical sets that the original couldn’t boast.

I think that where BTTF used to have an attraction, most comparisons will be between the new BTTF and the old BTTF rather than between BTTF and supercharged. I was strictly against a reskin of F&F but if they go all out and fill the dead space with animatronics and add kuka deloreans to the 360 tunnel it could be a game changer.
 
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Ok I swear this is going to be my last comment on this.

Mad Dog said:
A really small percentage of Broadway musicals are memorable and have lasting power. One reason they bring back all the old classics for new runs. And the traveling musicals are generally the classics, since subscribers are more apt to buy tickets for those than the new stuff, unless its a mega hit like Hamilton/Wicked/Jersey Boys. So, I really wouldn't put credence into BTTF not being a huge hit musical. Those are few and far between, and have less to do with the subject matter than with the creative process and a little bit of luck....Then there's Spiderman. Huge IP, lousy musical. But that doesn't mean Spiderman is unpopular.
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Legacy was originally replying to this, saying there was no reason for something new to bring it to the parks and that there is "new" content.

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BTTF is a timeless IP. It's also a staple of the Universal Studios company... It doesn't need a reason (new movie, video game whatever) to warrant a reason to come back in the parks. It speaks for itself. Also you're wrong @Lucky Planet there is new content for BTTF rn. The musical. It's pretty popular right now

https://www.backtothefuturemusical.com/
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While Legacy's comment about the quality of the show is an aside at best (trolling at worst) it does point out that adding BTTF to USF isn't some slam dunk like others are suggesting.

And to directly address the closing of BTTF/Spider-man/whatever, shows close for tons of different reasons - Bettlejuice was a hit and got evicted for the Music Man. My personal favorite show was booted early for The Great Gatsby. Spider-man was a notorious money pit that a sold out theater couldn't save, damn the popularity. Broadway is complicated and hard beyond "it's not popular so it closed". BTTF closed for several reasons, and one was that a year into the show it wasn't seeing the sales it needed and was frequently up on TKTS for large discounts. Why keep the Broadway one open when you can cut and move the show, and star, to Australia?
 
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Mad Dog said:
Then there's Spiderman. Huge IP, lousy musical
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*gasp* How dare you say "Spider-Man Rocks" at USH was lousy! It was the best show followed by "Creature From The Black Lagoon"! And THAT was ragin' & rockin'!
 
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*gasp* How dare you say "Spider-Man Rocks" at USH was lousy! It was the best show followed by "Creature From The Black Lagoon"! And THAT was ragin' & rockin'!
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No, No....the Broadway Musical ;) :lmao:....Too bad Universal didn't keep the west coast Marvel stuff. Disney would be checkmated.
 
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The replacement has been leaked...
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Wesker69 said:
The replacement has been leaked...
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Clive said:
I don't see how you do Jaws in that building. Back to the Future seems like the more natural fit.
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Jaws would be a better retheme of San Fran (I mean come on it already has waterfront piers) but you could probably fit a BttF ride better in that building unless they did some wizardry with backdrop screens to give the illusion of open ocean inside a building.
 
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There's really only 3 properties that work with the existing San Francisco area without major demo.

  • Back to the Future - as mentioned
  • Jaws - similar to BTTF, it'd just need signage and some adjustments to paint to transform into Amity
  • Godzilla - set in SF, maybe add some more Japanese culture into the area near Lombards and transform it into an Japanese restaurant
 
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UniversalRBLX said:
There's really only 3 properties that work with the existing San Francisco area without major demo.

  • Back to the Future - as mentioned
  • Jaws - similar to BTTF, it'd just need signage and some adjustments to paint to transform into Amity
  • Godzilla - set in SF, maybe add some more Japanese culture into the area near Lombards and transform it into an Japanese restaurant
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General, scattered thoughts lol. These are all awesome ideas conceptually. I guess my only concern is if they don't change the existing infrastructure of the ride - which it doesn't seem like they will - that we're going to ultimately run into the same problems of F&F but with a new theme. A slow moving vehicle doesn't make any more sense for a lot of these IPs either, particularly BTTF.

Back to the Future would need to be somewhat fast/somewhat thrilling. If you're in a car traveling through time, it can't go slow like the current ride vehicles in F&F. I guess an advantage here would be screens of time travel can make it "seem" like it's going faster and wouldn't feel as out of place thematically as the screens in F&F, but it still feels like just trying to force it to work in the existing space instead of actually gutting it and making a ride system that the IP deserves. So, I feel like this would present the same issues we are seeing in F&F (fast vehicle in movies, slow vehicle in ride) just with a new theme?

I really love the idea of Godzilla, I've BEEN saying Godzilla would be awesome in the parks. I feel like this ride could get away with not necessarily going fast because there isn't a specific "fast" vehicle related to the Godzilla franchise unlike BTTF and F&F. But imagine if they re-themed the ride vehicle to a Japanese speed train (and not just re-theme but I mean gut out the entire track and make it an actually FAST vehicle, so that we don't end up with "The Slow and UnFurious" 2.0.) that would be awesome. However, I'll agree that this IP could work better with the existing infrastructure of the ride system than others like BTTF for example, because again, the IP isn't related to a "fast" vehicle so there's more wiggle room to make it work.

Obviously, I would love to see Jaws back. I know that might just be a dream...but I'd love to see a classic back. They know it tests well based off the popularity of the classics merch but I know popularity of merch doesn't necessarily indicate/predict popularity of an attraction. I guess my two concerns here are a) water and b) the vehicle should be a boat not a tram they have. I know the Jaws part of the Hollywood tram tour uses the tram but I feel like it's a waste of the IP if you have Jaws not on a boat. Also, water. I know there was water in Earthquake/Disaster, although it wasn't just like...stagnant water...but a rush of water. Would it be feasible/possible to have water in that space? I don't think projection mapping of water would do the trick either...it wouldn't feel natural...and would just feel like a waste of trying to force this IP to work in a space that isn't really built for it.

I think two other IPs that could work in that space would be Beetlejuice and Ghostbusters. It would be cool to bring Beetlejuice back considering the ride building of F&F took over what used to be where the Beetlejuice Graveyard Revue was. The new movie has a transit system featured - "The Soul Train" -so that's an easy re-theme that also, wouldn't necessarily need to go fast, so the existing ride system could work for it. Re: Ghostbusters, I know there were rumors about Ghostbusters going into where Rip Ride Rockit currently is...but I think we're all thinking that's where the new/actually Fast and Furious ride/coaster will be going? So, with that said, I think a Ghostbusters dark ride could also work here where F&F Supercharged currently is, also because, this IP wouldn't necessarily have to involve high speeds. Alt: a Ghostbusters dark ride where you capture ghosts with proton pack guns could work as a retheme for MIB. But I'll try to stay on topic here...
 
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I think two other IPs that could work could work in that space would be Beetlejuice and Ghostbusters. It would be cool to bring Beetlejuice back considering the ride building of F&F took over what used to be where the Beetlejuice Graveyard Revue was. The new movie has a transit system featured - "The Soul Train" -so that's an easy re-theme. Re: Ghostbusters, I know there were rumors about Ghostbusters going into where Rip Ride Rockit is...but I think we're all thinking that's where the new/actually Fast and Furious ride/coaster will be going? So, with that said, I think it could also work here where F&F Supercharged currently is. Alt: a Ghostbusters dark ride where you capture ghosts with proton pack guns could work as a retheme for MIB. But I'll try to stay on topic here...
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Didn't think of Ghostbusters... that actually might work too. This would make the New York area as big as Galaxy's Edge.

While I'd love a BTTF ride to be fast, I don't think the storyline/IP necessitates it. The story side of things, in my opinion, would be more crucial to a BTTF themed attraction versus the sensation of actually going fast for a thrill.
 
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Jaws would be a better retheme of San Fran (I mean come on it already has waterfront piers) but you could probably fit a BttF ride better in that building unless they did some wizardry with backdrop screens to give the illusion of open ocean inside a building.
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"Amity Tours invites you to ride their new 'Submersi-Bus,' a unique underwater vehicle that can also drive on land! Explore our beautiful town and beaches, both above and below the water's surface! You may even see a shark!

Disclaimer - Amity Tours acknowledges a history of shark attacks along its beaches. Amity Tours is not liable for any psychological or physical injuries, to include death, that occur as the result of a shark attack."

Same basic ride. Musion effect now has Brody trying to stop the Tour from happening. If they want to get REAL fancy, they can update the bus with an adaptation of the wet/dry technology from the DisneySea 20K Leagues ride. A smaller musion scene after the tunnel with the Tour apologizing.

Modern Jaws ride using the F&F system.


EDIT - The F&F system - the 360 tunnel and the musion scene - are (I think) one of the most versatile systems the parks have. It can provide the visceral thrills of a simulator with enough movement and size and structure to be a different experience from a SCOOP or flying theater.
 
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Legacy said:
"Amity Tours invites you to ride their new 'Submersi-Bus,' a unique underwater vehicle that can also drive on land! Explore our beautiful town and beaches, both above and below the water's surface! You may even see a shark!

Disclaimer - Amity Tours acknowledges a history of shark attacks along its beaches. Amity Tours is not liable for any psychological or physical injuries, to include death, that occur as the result of a shark attack."

Same basic ride. Musion effect now has Brody trying to stop the Tour from happening. If they want to get REAL fancy, they can update the bus with an adaptation of the wet/dry technology from the DisneySea 20K Leagues ride. A smaller musion scene after the tunnel with the Tour apologizing.

Modern Jaws ride using the F&F system.


EDIT - The F&F system - the 360 tunnel and the musion scene - are (I think) one of the most versatile systems the parks have. It can provide the visceral thrills of a simulator with enough movement and size and structure to be a different experience from a SCOOP or flying theater.
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There would 100% have to be some actual water in the attraction, and at least 1 or 2 shark AAs. People would lose their minds without them
 
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TheCodeMan95 said:
There would 100% have to be some actual water in the attraction, and at least 1 or 2 shark AAs. People would lose their minds without them
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Jaws is so legendary that it needs a ground up new build that expands on the original. Plus the franchise doesn’t lend itself to a simulator. It’s very grounded and realistic (the first film at least) and the only way to pull it off is a boat ride with only physical props and suspenseful pacing. If they went the indoor route they could use Bourne-style screens to replicate the backdrop of open water, but Jaws 360-3D just feels like an insult to the film and the original attraction

BTTF on the other hand is perfect for a simulator, although something with at least SOME physicality would be better
 
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JAWS would need to be a mostly practical experience to make it worthwhile.

BTTF can skate by being another simulator because the original ride was.
 
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Jaws is so legendary that it needs a ground up new build that expands on the original. Plus the franchise doesn’t lend itself to a simulator. It’s very grounded and realistic (the first film at least) and the only way to pull it off is a boat ride with only physical props and suspenseful pacing. If they went the indoor route they could use Bourne-style screens to replicate the backdrop of open water, but Jaws 360-3D just feels like an insult to the film and the original attraction

BTTF on the other hand is perfect for a simulator, although something with at least SOME physicality would be better
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I agree on the Bourne screens - I think they could do a pretty good job of creating the feeling of being on open water.
 
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So is the general consensus among everyone (and the insiders) that the ride system, busses, show scenes and big 360 tunnel aren't changing? Because if that's the case, I'm not too excited about anything, even as awesome as a BTTF attraction would be. Supercharged's problems mostly lie with the ride system and layout. I don't want them to waste a great IP like BTTF by doing a low budget re-theme. The park needs some good new attractions. No more re-themed of bad ones that are almost entirely screen based.
 
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