General Movies & TV Thread

[SeventyOne]

Sometimes you see something so bat-guano crazy you have to share it ...

Zach Snyder's Twilight of the Gods (yeah, the pretentiousness is earned) is like a mash-up of LotR, Clash of the Titans, Kill Bill and a 90s late-night Cinemax flick -- but as if it was done as an anime. A hard-R revenge story that hews closer to actual Norse mythology than the MCU's Thor movies, it's engaging, very well told with effective cliff-hangers on each episode. But there's also plenty of mind-bendingly weird scenes in here.

If any of the above intrigues you -- and animated hard-core violence, sex and language won't offend you -- check it on Netflix.

 

[saint.piss]

 

[pumpkinbot343]

I always was familiar with the cold hearted businessman that was Lex Luthor from the DCAU entries of Superman TAS and JL/JLU; so I’m not a big fan of how Lex Luthor was portrayed in the Donner movies. Aside from his nonsensical plans, Luthor was more of a wise cracking comedian complete with an annoying bumbling henchman. But at least Gene Hackman had charisma.

Jesse Eisenberg does not, and only compounds the problem by aping Donner’s dreadful Luthor. The jokes, the odd verbal tics, the “trying hard not to sound like an arse” schtick; it all came from Richard Donner. It’s bad enough trying to copy a bad interpretation without the force of Hackman’s magnetic personality to pull it off, it’s especially bad when BVS: Dawn of Justice tries so hard to be the darkest and most nihilistic of all the DC movies ever, as well as distance itself from the Donner movies as much as possible. You’d think Zack Snyder would go for a more accurate Lex Luthor, instead he’s the comic relief. Luthor sticks out like a sore thumb amongst the grittiness of everything, and nothing in a way that’s amusing. And if 1978 Luthor had bad plans, this Luthor makes the Donner version look like a genuine criminal mastermind in comparison.

 

[rageofthegods]

Juror #2 is pretty good and it shouldn't have been dumped in 50 theaters.

 

[pumpkinbot343]

More DCEU ramblings.

Now Zack Snyder’s vision of DC as seen in his first two movies is not very good. However I wanted to discuss something I always see brought up when I read discussion about these films. A common complaint I see is that Zack Snyder isn’t really faithful to the comics, that his interpretations of the characters don’t really resemble the source material. Except that they are; just not on a very good era of DC Comics.

Man of Steel was released in 2013, and two years before that the New 52 was released. The Superman in the New 52 wore a darker suit without trunks, and was more brooding and more disconnected from humanity… pretty much what the Snyder Superman was. Both Snyder and New 52’s Superman were more destructive and violent than ever; and even that could be a reference to how Superman was in the Golden Age. The photograph Zack Snyder shared of Wonder Woman holding decapitated heads in a war probably hinted that his concept for the character would be very in line with how the New 52 portrayed her; as a ruthless and cynical mean spirited killer. Batman was portrayed as an detestable unlikable cynical arse who wouldn’t kill the Joker for some reason LONG before the New 52, dating up to the work of controversial writer Frank Miller.

In short, Zack Snyder doesn’t understand DC because DC themselves forgot how their characters were supposed to act (Wonder Woman and Batman being the worst examples).

 

[pumpkinbot343]

More DCEU ramblings.

Now Zack Snyder’s vision of DC as seen in his first two movies is not very good. However I wanted to discuss something I always see brought up when I read discussion about these films. A common complaint I see is that Zack Snyder isn’t really faithful to the comics, that his interpretations of the characters don’t really resemble the source material. Except that they are; just not on a very good era of DC Comics.

Man of Steel was released in 2013, and two years before that the New 52 was released. The Superman in the New 52 wore a darker suit without trunks, and was more brooding and more disconnected from humanity… pretty much what the Snyder Superman was. Both Snyder and New 52’s Superman were more destructive and violent than ever; and even that could be a reference to how Superman was in the Golden Age. The photograph Zack Snyder shared of Wonder Woman holding decapitated heads in a war probably hinted that his concept for the character would be very in line with how the New 52 portrayed her; as a ruthless and cynical mean spirited killer. Batman was portrayed as an detestable unlikable cynical arse who wouldn’t kill the Joker for some reason LONG before the New 52, dating up to the work of controversial writer Frank Miller.

In short, Zack Snyder doesn’t understand DC because DC themselves forgot how their characters were supposed to act (Wonder Woman and Batman being the worst examples).

And another thing: Batman has killed lots of people in both the Golden Age comics and the Tim Burton movies and the latter is highly regarded. He also killed in the Nolan movies too, only they pretended to stick to his famous code.