Hagrid’s Magical Creatures Motorbike Adventure Construction Discussion

[JungleSkip]

It seems like apx. 4 minutes is the sweet spot Universal & Disney have been looking for on most of their newer attractions. I would guess there's enough slow downs, or even a complete stop,to wring apx. 4 minutes out of this layout.

Without lift hills it's reaaaaaaally hard to get a ride time like that out of a coaster. I'm guessing it'll be about 3 minutes. If it's any longer, I think it means it's a really, really slow coaster

 

[SpatulaShack]

Without lift hills it's reaaaaaaally hard to get a ride time like that out of a coaster. I'm guessing it'll be about 3 minutes. If it's any longer, I think it means it's a really, really slow coaster

Cheetah Hunt is 1:30 from launch to final breaks and that's actually a pretty long launched coaster (4,000+ feet) but that has no stops and no changes in direction. I think 2:30 - 3:00 is reasonable if you take into account two pauses in the action for a brief showscene and a change of direction.

 

[Alicia]

Cheetah Hunt is 1:30 from launch to final breaks and that's actually a pretty long launched coaster (4,000+ feet) but that has no stops and no changes in direction. I think 2:30 - 3:00 is reasonable if you take into account two pauses in the action for a brief showscene and a change of a direction.

Agreed.

 

[Nick]

It seems like apx. 4 minutes is the sweet spot Universal & Disney have been looking for on most of their newer attractions. I would guess there's enough slow downs, or even a complete stop,to wring apx. 4 minutes out of this layout.

This is a coaster. With launches. There's no way it clocks in anywhere near 4 minutes.

 

[JoeCamel]

This is a coaster. With launches. There's no way it clocks in anywhere near 4 minutes.

Pre show?

 

[SpatulaShack]

Pre show?

Please don't use that word. I have PTSD from the recent opening of Pre-Show: The Ride at USF.

 

[Nick]

Pre show?

I mean they're using the station as it was so i'm not expecting any pre-show added for this ride, just a lot of theming. I could be way off though.

 

[JoeCamel]

Please don't use that word. I have PTSD from the recent opening of Pre-Show: The Ride at USF.

How many pre shows would you say standby on FJ has?
edit I consider a pre show to be setting up the ride

 

[JungleSkip]

I mean they're using the station as it was so i'm not expecting any pre-show added for this ride, just a lot of theming. I could be way off though.

Even if there is a preshow, there's plenty of room in that building for one, that doesn't affect the ride time.

How many pre shows would you say standby on FJ has?

Zero

 

[Nick]

Even if there is a preshow, there's plenty of room in that building for one, that doesn't affect the ride time.

Exactly. I hate how people are starting to count pre-shows as part of the ride now... it's like Universal is conditioning it's guests to not care as much if the ride isn't good because the queues are cool!

Luckily this ride seems like it should be awesome so it won't have that issue. My point is we shouldn't be counting pre-shows as part of the ride time.

 

[rhino4evr]

Please don't use that word. I have PTSD from the recent opening of Pre-Show: The Ride at USF.

Since it's a "family" coaster, maybe three pre-shows about "family" are due.

Put away your cell phones! (even though they are already in a locker).

 

[JungleSkip]

Exactly. I hate how people are starting to count pre-shows as part of the ride now... it's like Universal is conditioning it's guests to not care as much if the ride isn't good because the queues are cool!

(I mean people did the same thing with FOP and that queue/preshow isn't even any good)

:bolt:

 

[Nick]

(I mean people did the same thing with FOP and that queue/preshow isn't even any good)

:bolt:

I mean the queue is pretty nice for FoP but i'm not counting that as part of my ride time.

And yes, the two pre-shows for FoP are trash. I'm not sure why theme parks go for the "awkward" character. The "Awkward" character-type is portrayed bad in both FoP and F&F's pre-shows. It's just not something that is easy to pull off and make it appeal to audiences.

 

[SpatulaShack]

How many pre shows would you say standby on FJ has?

Technically zero but my issue with Pre-Show: The Ride is that there are two prior to the ride and then two ON the ride as well for a grand total of 4.

 

[Mike S]

I mean the queue is pretty nice for FoP but i'm not counting that as part of my ride time.

And yes, the two pre-shows for FoP are trash. I'm not sure why theme parks go for the "awkward" character. The "Awkward" character-type is portrayed bad in both FoP and F&F's pre-shows. It's just not something that is easy to pull off and make it appeal to audiences.

If it makes you feel uncomfortable or facepalm then the “awkward” character is working.

 

[shiekra38]

Cheetah Hunt is 1:30 from launch to final breaks and that's actually a pretty long launched coaster (4,000+ feet) but that has no stops and no changes in direction. I think 2:30 - 3:00 is reasonable if you take into account two pauses in the action for a brief showscene and a change of direction.

Wow, that ride feels so much longer than that...Paced very well

I think 2 minutes for a coaster is plenty...But ad in a couple of seconds for various pre-shows, and you have the first Universal ride in a long time that doesn't feel short

 

[Nick]

If it makes you feel uncomfortable or facepalm then the “awkward” character is working.

That's one way to look at it.

Another is that it's just a horrible character-type to use for a pre-show when you're supposed to be getting pumped up for the ride. The FoP one is just unforgivably bad (keep in mind i'm a huge fan of the actual ride). At least with F&F using live actors, they have the option to change the pre-show if they want down the line.

 

[Mike S]

That's one way to look at it.

Another is that it's just a horrible character-type to use for a pre-show when you're supposed to be getting pumped up for the ride. The FoP one is just unforgivably bad (keep in mind i'm a huge fan of the actual ride). At least with F&F using live actors, they have the option to change the pre-show if they want down the line.

And FoP can’t be re-recorded and changed pretty much overnight?

 

[Nick]

And FoP can’t be re-recorded and changed pretty much overnight?

It could, but the likelihood of Disney doing that is slim. They didn't even re-record the pre-show to Soarin' when they changed to Soarin' Around the World.

 

[Mike S]

It could, but the likelihood of Disney doing that is slim. They didn't even re-record the pre-show to Soarin' when they changed to Soarin' Around the World.

Because people loved that pre-sow. I know I was happy to see it still there.