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(Or a mannequin...)If they did that, then they would still need a Biden AA that stands with all the rest of the Presidents during the reveal.
(Or a mannequin...)If they did that, then they would still need a Biden AA that stands with all the rest of the Presidents during the reveal.
2. I don’t love the idea of taking one of the more adult attractions at WDW and skewing it younger. Hall of Presidents has always been one of my dad’s favorite shows, for example, and I can’t imagine him being excited about it turning into comedy.
I think people are sleeping on the possibility of adding a Nic Cage animatronic stealing the Declaration of Independence...
I always wonder where that oft repeated meme came from. Originally the streets were not made that way and once the large parades started they were changed again to smooth out the cobbles. ?1990?? I did a quick look and didn't see it right off but I saw something from one of the old imaginers explaining that was never the intention. Skylar? Gurr? Baxter? Was one of those I thinkLoosely related but I never miss a chance to point this out... the brown strip of pavement going through the middle of the walkways in the Liberty Square is meant to represent sewage from pre-plumbing times.
Once you see it, it can’t be unseen.
You joke but if this was announced it would be the highlight of my trip. This might be the only thing I'd like over more Muppets...I think people are sleeping on the possibility of adding a Nic Cage animatronic stealing the Declaration of Independence...
While kids can enjoy the Muppets, plenty of adults do as well.
Here’s the difference- Even when HOP was supposed to be Great Moments, it would’ve been a clone.Some sort of irony in that people who panic whenever COP might be replaced (It was created by Walt!) have no problem tossing away an attraction that in concept way pre-dated COP, but was a project that Walt himself was most anxious to figure out how to do it.
I hope the new version is called “Great Muppets with Mr. Lincoln.”
The original CONCEPT of Hall of Presidents dates to the 1950s as part of the Liberty Street expansion. Great Moments happened only because Robert Moses saw the figure and insisted it be at the fair. In fact, he actually PAID the Illinois pavillion to have it. Originally Lincoln was simply going to be the speaking one but the show (had it been built) would have been just like the original 1971 HOP.Here’s the difference- Even when HOP was supposed to be Great Moments, it would’ve been a clone.
CoP was originally at the World’s Fair, moved to Disneyland, then moved to WDW. So CoP literally traces all the way back to the 64-65 Worlds fair.
Point is, it’s not like this is the original thing. Last I checked, that’s still standing over there at DL. And even if it was, WDW is not a museum. Many have made the argument over the years that CoP should be donated to the Walt Disney Family Museum.
I don't mean to be dismissive, but I literally don't care about any of that. I know all of the history on HoP, i've watched Martin's videos and stuff on it. I just kinda don't care if it traces a bit back to some work back then. Sure, it's fun trivia, but (and I feel like I keep saying this), WDW is NOT a living museum. It should be an ever evolving place.The original CONCEPT of Hall of Presidents dates to the 1950s as part of the Liberty Street expansion. Great Moments happened only because Robert Moses saw the figure and insisted it be at the fair. In fact, he actually PAID the Illinois pavillion to have it. Originally Lincoln was simply going to be the speaking one but the show (had it been built) would have been just like the original 1971 HOP.
WDW is NOT a living museum. It should be an ever evolving place.
I agree some things are classics, but they also need to be updated over time like Hall of Presidents and Haunted Mansion have been. Haunted Mansion is a *true* classic in the sense that even if you haven't been to a Disney park, you know what it is. HoP is just too controversial in the era we're currently living in.But at the same time, some things are classics for a reason (I'm not necessarily saying HOP is in that category), and I reject that argument that says that because a thing is old, it automatically needs to be replaced.
As with everything, balance. A park can move forward and evolve its offerings and still preserve its history. Especially at the WDW parks, which have many plots of land that are either designated for expansion or are under-utilized.
So does replacing Hall of Presidents with a new attraction concept equate to a rejection of the classics? No. But neither does wanting it to stick around equate to an advocacy of the park remaining stuck in time.
I think it would make it easier, but I still want Muppet Vision to stay.If they put in a fully fledged Muppets attraction, would that give permission to remove Muppet Vision?
I think it would make it easier, but I still want Muppet Vision to stay.
Do they need permission to remove Muppet Vision?If they put in a fully fledged Muppets attraction, would that give permission to remove Muppet Vision?