Halloween Horror Nights 2025 (USH) - Speculation & Rumors

[Brian G.]

I mean, I don't really see the point in arguing any of this because you're clearly wrong -- and I'm 1000000% not trying to be mean or rude or snarky by saying that

Maybe I'm giving them too much credit -- or maybe you're just refusing to concede that a company with a hundreds of billions in yearly revenue might actually be competent? Idk.

And I'm not saying people engage with restaurants and themed entertainment in the same way lmao. I'm saying it's not uncommon for anything to share commonalities and still be successful when it all sits under the same exact brand. Swap In-n-Out for Blue Man Group or Jabbawockeez or Cirque or literally anything else of that variety. Having multiple iterations of these things in various cities across the world has not proved detrimental. It's been the exact opposite, in fact.


Yes they're all idiots and us, the people on the message board, are the real geniuses.

Yean, you're kinda being a big dick here...

 

[viking_wizard_eyes]

Yean, you're kinda being a big dick here...

Kinda like this guy?

 

[Jake S]

Kinda like this guy?
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Yes, I have a hard time taking anything you say seriously if you believe corporations inherently behave rationally.

 

[viking_wizard_eyes]

Yes, I have a hard time taking anything you say seriously if you believe corporations inherently behave rationally.

Got it, and I'm the dick. I'm not saying they're batting a 1.000 but it's also a pretty common Internet Guy thing to sit at a keyboard and suggest these people are dropping the ball despite opening and continuing to open hugely successful theme entertainment centers across the globe.

Both things are true -- they know what they're doing and they make mistakes. I just don't think the SEO impact of one haunted attraction is going to really do much to hurt the success of two different things in two completely different places, one of which will be open an indefinite amount of time and one that will only be around for a little while.

 

[Brian G.]

Got it, and I'm the dick. I'm not saying they're batting a 1.000 but it's also a pretty common Internet Guy thing to sit at a keyboard and suggest these people are dropping the ball despite opening and continuing to open hugely successful theme entertainment centers across the globe.

Both things are true -- they know what they're doing and they make mistakes. I just don't think the SEO impact of one haunted attraction is going really do much to hurt the success of two different things in two completely different places, one of which will be open an indefinite amount of time and one that will only be around for a little while.

You're literally telling people, "You're wrong and I'm right," all based on rumor and conjecture, picking and choosing what to argue.

 

[Jerroddragon]

Sorry if I missed this

Have we discussed the idea that Scarecrow is kinda like a tie in/advertisement for HHN in Vegas?

Not saying they are not doing it to be cheap but saying maybe its also to have a sign at the end of the attraction saying "like this check out HHN in Vegas which is open after HHN ends"

 

[saint.piss]

Bro...

 

[Clive]

I just don't think the SEO impact of one haunted attraction is going to really do much to hurt the success of two different things in two completely different places, one of which will be open an indefinite amount of time and one that will only be around for a little while.

Going to quote myself here, because you seem to keep insisting that I'm suggesting that having Scarecrow in both places will result in the failure or underperformance of either offering:

EDITING TO CLARIFY: I also don't think this is going to cause massive disruptions or derail either offering. I'm saying it introduces complications and potential headaches for SEO/general marketing reasons. Guessing that the event's creative team decided to go with Scarecrow for cost savings without a lot for how it would/will affect marketing, and now those marketing departments will just have to deal with it.

Put another way, as simply as possible: I bet the marketing departments at both Universal Studios Hollywood and Horror Unleashed wish they weren't both doing Scarecrow this year. In fact, I bet one or both departments raised concerns and were shut down and/or told to deal with it.

Can the general public figure out that there are two Scarecrow haunted houses from Universal debuting in two separate places within a month of each other? Yes.
Can influencers/press releases/marketing materials help make this distinction? Yes.
Does it make things a bit more complicated and present a headache to deal with? Also yes!

 

[chris.g]

So yeah, I think Scarecrow returning sucks.

 

[viking_wizard_eyes]

You're literally telling people, "You're wrong and I'm right," all based on rumor and conjecture, picking and choosing what to argue.

What "rumors and conjecture"? I guess it's still a rumor that Scarecrow is coming to HHN, but come on lol.

Not "picking and choosing," either. My point -- literally my only point this entire time -- is that having a Scarecrow house in Vegas and a Scarecrow house in Hollywood is not marketing problem; it's not an anything problem. Universal (and theme parks in general) have a copy/paste strategy. This is no different. Do they work all the time? No, but presuming it won't in this situation strikes me as "picking and choosing." And yeah, I think people who think otherwise are wrong. People who disagree with me are free to think I'm wrong. That's not being a dick. Sarcastic comments from your own staff, on the other hand...

Put another way, as simply as possible: I bet the marketing departments at both Universal Studios Hollywood and Horror Unleashed wish they weren't both doing Scarecrow this year. In fact, I bet one or both departments raised concerns and were shut down and/or told to deal with it.

Can the general public figure out that there are two Scarecrow haunted houses from Universal debuting in two separate places within a month of each other? Yes.
Can influencers/press releases/marketing materials help make this distinction? Yes.
Does it make things a bit more complicated and present a headache to deal with? Also yes!

Apologies, I misunderstood you and I didn't see your clarification. I think whatever marketing headaches that pop up will be the kind that just come with the territory. They're unavoidable in any circumstance. For whatever reason, Universal sees value in including Scarecrow in both places, to the point that they're willing to deal with whatever pain points arise in the messaging, and I personally can see the logic behind all of it.

 

[saint.piss]

So yeah, I think Scarecrow returning sucks.

I think a positive way of looking at it is that the IPs this year are clearly getting huge budgets if they're doing repeats like this. At least I hope so.

 

[Brian G.]

What "rumors and conjecture"? I guess it's still a rumor that Scarecrow is coming to HHN, but come on lol.

Not "picking and choosing," either. My point -- literally my only point this entire time -- is that having a Scarecrow house in Vegas and a Scarecrow house in Hollywood is not marketing problem; it's not an anything problem. Universal (and theme parks in general) have a copy/paste strategy. This is no different. Do they work all the time? No, but presuming it won't in this situation strikes me as "picking and choosing." And yeah, I think people who think otherwise are wrong. People who disagree with me are free to think I'm wrong. That's not being a dick. Sarcastic comments from your own staff, on the other hand...

Did Universal confirm it?

We believe the rumor of Scarecrow coming is based on one nondescript wall, but discount the rumor of the Monsters not coming when nearly all rumormongers haven't even mentioned it, and have all said the same thing.

Again. You're picking and choosing.

 

[viking_wizard_eyes]

Did Universal confirm it?

We believe the rumor of Scarecrow coming is based on one nondescript wall, but discount the rumor of the Monsters not coming when nearly all rumormongers haven't even mentioned it, and have all said the same thing.

Again. You're picking and choosing.

I'm not gonna play whatever game this is. Scarecrow will be at HHN and UHU. I do think UCM is coming to HHN, as well, but obviously I could be wrong. And if it doesn't come to HHN, it won't have anything to do with Vegas, because there's going to be a Scarecrow house in both, so clearly Universal doesn't have an issue with similar properties in both places. That's been my position the entire time. You don't need to twist my words around, dude.

 

[Brian G.]

I'm not gonna play whatever game this is. Scarecrow will be at HHN and UHU. I do think UCM is coming to HHN, as well, but obviously I could be wrong. And if it doesn't come to HHN, it won't have anything to do with Vegas, because there's going to be a Scarecrow house in both, so clearly Universal doesn't have an issue with similar properties in both places. That's been my position the entire time. You don't need to twist my words around, dude.

Got it. So we'll believe only the rumors that confirm our biases.

We can move on now.

 

[viking_wizard_eyes]

Got it. So we'll believe only the rumors that confirm our biases.

We can move on now.

This is so obtuse. Scarecrow is coming to both. I think UCM is as well, based on Scarecrow and the UCM track record at this event. I’m not making any guarantees — I could be wrong, and I’ll be fine if I’m wrong. I’m not being out of line here at all, despite your attempts to make it look that way.

 

[Brian G.]

This is so obtuse. Scarecrow is coming to both. I think UCM is as well, based on Scarecrow and the UCM track record at this event. I’m not making any guarantees — I could be wrong, and I’ll be fine if I’m wrong. I’m not being out of line here at all, despite your attempts to make it look that way.

I'm not claiming that Scarecrow is or isn't coming; it's all based on rumors at this point.

All I'm saying is that you're choosing to believe one rumor to support your argument while dismissing another, even though all these rumors essentially originate from the same sources.

If it were just one person's claim, that would be one thing. However, there is a strong consensus that the Monsters won't be coming and has been the story since late last year.

 

[viking_wizard_eyes]

I'm not claiming that Scarecrow is or isn't coming; it's all based on rumors at this point.

All I'm saying is that you're choosing to believe one rumor to support your argument while dismissing another, even though all these rumors essentially originate from the same sources.

If it were just one person's claim, that would be one thing. However, there is a strong consensus that the Monsters won't be coming and has been the story since late last year.

I get that you have to call Scarecrow coming a rumor based on your status as the owner of this site. But that doesn’t apply to us. We’ve seen the images — we know Scarecrow is coming.

I know what the rumors are about UCM. I also know rumors are sometimes wrong; sometime things change. As of now, I still think it’ll make the lineup. The Vegas thing isn’t an issue, as we see with Scarecrow; Slash is confirmed by Murdy to be returning, and we all know what house he tends to work on…

But obviously I could be wrong. Maybe they think two UHU properties is overkill; maybe Slash is working on a different house. I dunno! Guess I’m just a “dick” who’s “picking and choosing.”

 

[Brian G.]

I get that you have to call Scarecrow coming a rumor based on your status as the owner of this site. But that doesn’t apply to us. We’ve seen the images — we know Scarecrow is coming.

I know what the rumors are about UCM. I also know rumors are sometimes wrong; sometime things change. As of now, I still think it’ll make the lineup. The Vegas thing isn’t an issue, as we see with Scarecrow; Slash is confirmed by Murdy to be returning, and we all know what house he tends to work on…

But obviously I could be wrong. Maybe they think two UHU properties is overkill; maybe Slash is working on a different house. I dunno! Guess I’m just a “dick” who’s “picking and choosing.”

Noted. Time to move on!

 

[foodstampsFTW]

Would like to remind some people that slash was working with HHN before they started with the monsters houses.

 

[chris.g]

I finally get my Exterminatorz house at the expense it’s composed by slash. Right?