SpyderDan
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So the quality will be bad with Chapek in charge well thats not good because Disney has always had quality.
It's been awhile lol.
So the quality will be bad with Chapek in charge well thats not good because Disney has always had quality.
Not trying to be a homer (no pun intended) for Universal, cause it does seem rn Disney can charge whatever the f they want and get away with it, but I genuinely ask others here, do we think Epic Universe will finally be the straw to break the camels back with Disney prices? IF., again, IF crowds really show up at universal and decide to do universal instead of Disney for once, I don’t see how the majority of people will be upset with Universal pricing compared to Disney’s.
I just can’t imagine Disney can continue on this awful nickel and dime trend, I feel some extremely serious competition, aka EU, could shake things up. What are others thoughts on that? From a business side I know Disney will never “lose” but Epic Universe just feels like their biggest “threat” they’ve had, and like, based on rumors and such there doesn’t seem to be a major response coming from the WDW parks.
Not trying to be a homer (no pun intended) for Universal, cause it does seem rn Disney can charge whatever the f they want and get away with it, but I genuinely ask others here, do we think Epic Universe will finally be the straw to break the camels back with Disney prices? IF., again, IF crowds really show up at universal and decide to do universal instead of Disney for once, I don’t see how the majority of people will be upset with Universal pricing compared to Disney’s.
I just can’t imagine Disney can continue on this awful nickel and dime trend, I feel some extremely serious competition, aka EU, could shake things up. What are others thoughts on that? From a business side I know Disney will never “lose” but Epic Universe just feels like their biggest “threat” they’ve had, and like, based on rumors and such there doesn’t seem to be a major response coming from the WDW parks.
I don't think the average guest sees Disney as having a lack of new rides. With COVID keeping out many foreigners for over a year, Ratatouille, Runaway Railway, AND Galaxy's Edge are likely seen as new to most guests still.lack of new rides
Agree completely. Fan stalwarts on theme park forums see things in a different light than the general public. The GP will generally check out a park'sI don't think the average guest sees Disney as having a lack of new rides. With COVID keeping out many foreigners for over a year, Ratatouille, Runaway Railway, AND Galaxy's Edge are likely seen as new to most guests still.
I know all of these aren't expansions and many have taken a long time to build, but with a schedule like this over the past half decade, I think the average guest is seeing Disney as having a lot of new rides, tbh...
2016 - Frozen Ever After
2017 - Flight of Passage, Na'vi River Journey, Miss Adventure Falls (Typhoon Lagoon)
2018 - Slinky Dog Dash, Alien Swirling Saucers
2019 - Millenium Falcon: Smuggler's Run, Rise of the Resistance
2020 - Mickey & Minnie's Runaway Railway
2021 - Remy's Ratatouille Adventure
2022 - Guardians of the Galaxy: Cosmic Rewind
TBA - Tron: Lightcycle Run
Add on things like new fireworks shows at MK and Epcot and it's not an insignificant amount of stuff.
Agree completely. Fan stalwarts on theme park forums see things in a different light than the general public. The GP will generally check out a park's
status just a few months, if at all, before a visit, which may be many years between visits. Forum fans look at this stuff constantly, so their view is really distorted compared to the out of state and international tourists that are the prime moneymakers for the parks.
I'm basically of the same mindset. I love the WDW parks. But I dislike the operational philosophy of the past decade.As an international tourist, who up until this year hadn't visited since 2014, but who is obviously also a "forum fan' to add my perspective. Yes, especially compared to when I last visited, Disney has added a lot and I personally give them a lot of credit for that. In fact especially given when I went I can say I had a great time, almost all my actual issues for the most part end up on the operational side of what Disney is doing right now. However I did walk away from my trip basically thinking "Okay, well see you again in 7 years!", but looking ahead I can say there isn't as much in the future that is as appealing as coming back to the parks with Avatar Land, Star Wars Land, Mickey & Minnie , etc all built (and it's not really fair to expect that output necessarily either), especially if I have to deal with boarding groups and genies and lightning lanes for every new thing built. But I do think even as slow going as it was at times we can't discredit what has been built in the past 7 years or so.
Not trying to be a homer (no pun intended) for Universal, cause it does seem rn Disney can charge whatever the f they want and get away with it, but I genuinely ask others here, do we think Epic Universe will finally be the straw to break the camels back with Disney prices? IF., again, IF crowds really show up at universal and decide to do universal instead of Disney for once, I don’t see how the majority of people will be upset with Universal pricing compared to Disney’s.
I just can’t imagine Disney can continue on this awful nickel and dime trend, I feel some extremely serious competition, aka EU, could shake things up. What are others thoughts on that? From a business side I know Disney will never “lose” but Epic Universe just feels like their biggest “threat” they’ve had, and like, based on rumors and such there doesn’t seem to be a major response coming from the WDW parks.
Not trying to compare but what looking at Chapek vs Mark Woodbury who replaced Tom Williams at Universal now Universal hired another person with Michael Hightower taking over at Universal Creative as President who has the edge right now in terms of both hires at the resorts?
This is true, different companies with different goals.Not to be that guy, but each company has their own goals. We can speculate on what they are, but promotions and hirings are means to those goals. There is no edge. Each person has their own positives/negatives as it relates to the fandom/general public reception/stockholder value. There’s really no point in us trying to give people a point tally. Their work will speak for itself.
Disney is cooking it's customers already for decades and the frog still doesn't care it's getting cooked. They will willingly slide into the new standard and defend the obscene amount of $$$ they spend and keep going. And to be honest I'm fine with that. I don't want the stroller pushing wine moms ruining Universal.I just can’t imagine Disney can continue on this awful nickel and dime trend, I feel some extremely serious competition, aka EU, could shake things up. What are others thoughts on that? From a business side I know Disney will never “lose” but Epic Universe just feels like their biggest “threat” they’ve had, and like, based on rumors and such there doesn’t seem to be a major response coming from the WDW parks.
This is true, different companies with different goals.
Disney itself is a brand and staple, so they want to cut costs to maximize profits, hire Chapek.
Universal is more drawn by Potter or whatever their “new” thing is, so they need more creative to keep the pressure up, promote Woodbury.
It makes sense for both companies (To a degree with Disney) but from a business perspective alone I find Epic Universe to be fascinating.
This is true, however I should’ve clarified I’m comparing Chapek’s reign at the parks, but this is also very true currently.I would also suggest that the two are also very different positions. One is CEO of the entire company where the other is CEO of a division. A better comparison would be Chapek against the CEO of Comcast. Mark Woodbury would be better compared against WDW's CEO position or something similar.
This is true, however I should’ve clarified I’m comparing Chapek’s reign at the parks, but this is also very true currently.
The company life cycle stage is what I think about some as well: product development, market introduction, growth, maturity, and decline/stability
Universal is probably in "Growth" phase still yet. Disney is in the "maturity" or harvest phase. Yes, Disney still has parts of the first three phases at times but right now it appears to be mostly maturity/harvesting. Disney+ is probably their market introduction/growth area. MyMagic progressed through the phases and now they are starting to charge for it (eg. Maturity/Harvest) They will slip into decline if they are not careful.