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Official Soccer Thread

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  • Start date Start date May 2, 2016
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  • Today at 12:57 PM
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Legacy said:
But Mad Dog, you know that “intent” isn’t a determining factor in the Laws of the Game. I don’t have the length of experience you have, but I did ref for several years (including international youth competitions) and played at a pretty high level for my age (national select teams in overseas tournaments). Balogun’s foul (it was a foul) *was* reckless. The fatigue actually emphasizes the recklessness (which we know is why more cards come out late). That sets the floor at a yellow and immediately makes intent even more irrelevant than it was. Subjectively, it could have seriously injured the B&H. Not “did,” but “could have.” That, to me, makes it a serious foul and a makes a red justified. Because, ultimately, if the ankle HAD broken (because it could have), would you still be saying it didn’t need to be a red? The VAR of it aside (the point of which is to assess fouls from all angles to determine severity - and this does that), I argue its a fair red. Maybe soft, but fair.

But, legitimately, the biggest issue is FIFA suspending the suspension mid-tournament (and now allowing Belgium to appeal the suspension of the suspension). Balogun will STILL have to have to sit out a game. FIFA is not saying it was a BS red (when they have that authority it in the bylaw that lets them suspend the suspension). And, now, France is requesting a rescinded yellow for Olise. The precedent is getting set for cards to become completely irrelevant during the tournament.
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If every kicked ankle in a game was red carded, there'd not be many players left on the field. Officiating in Pa. with both the national federation and the high schools, both of which I did, comes with numerous meetings among all the officials. Very rarely did we encounter an official that was 'strict' with the rules of the game. Most realized that flexibility was needed to maintain a good flow of the game, and ticky tacky calls actually created a situation where fouls became more common. I commend you for playing at such a high level, so you understand how much faster the game is on the field as opposed to what it looks like from the stands or TV. I too played on numerous high level club teams that had good numbers of foreign players from the North American Soccer League and the major Indoor League, that stayed in the US and played for the clubs after retirement. US soccer rules are good in that they allow retired professionals to return to amateur status. Amazing players and great skills. It was a pleasure to play along side them and against them. I also played for PA West all star teams in four National Club Championship Tournaments (Previously called the Veterans Cup).

Yes, the interference was political. And yes, FIFA is too much politically oriented. And yes, FIFA is not an ethical organization. But I still stand by my opinion that the red call was an absolute overreach, even ,more so that the main field official didn't originally call it. There's a lot of favoritism, and nationality aspects, in all of these international competitions, Olympics included, and I often suspect the worst when a bad call is made. Like you, I don't really like the way the compromise was reached, but I do feel a wrong was righted. And unfortunately a really nicely played match is over shadowed by this red card controversy. Another reason for common sense game calls.
 
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Legacy said:
Is it though? Or is it standard, run of the mill, FIFA corruption?

https://www.nytimes.com/2026/07/05/us/trump-fifa-balogun-world-cup.html?unlocked_article_code=1.vVA.xiOm.1aH0zDV9SFO6&smid=nytcore-ios-share

www.theguardian.com

White House lobbied Fifa to lift Folarin Balogun suspension for World Cup game v Belgium

The US striker was shown red in the team’s last-32 match, but the card and its suspension were thought to not be eligible for appeal.
www.theguardian.com www.theguardian.com
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I'm with you 100%. It sets a dangerous precedent that anyone with enough money/influence/power can just go ahead and call in and basically change the results of a call/game. That's not fair or ethical. And I could say A LOT more re: FIFA and their relationship with he-who-called-to-review-and-reverse-the-decision...but I won't because I don't know our rules on politics and I don't want to get in trouble/suspended lol.
 
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