This is my favorite Epcot announcement from yesterday since it's essentially thematically sound, a people-eater and adds a ride to WS after a 33-year wait. It would be nice to hear about the UK soon, too.
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Remy's Ratatouille Adventure
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darkridelover
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- May 5, 2012
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Here's my theory:
First the current show building is pictured in the concept art. As you can see here.
I think the new ride is just going in the back corner of that land. In Paris, the facade and line are an addition onto the actual show building. The entrance can easily be moved. Also, the service road behind this pavilion goes down a pretty steep hill into the tunnel underneath the water way. It would not be in the way if there needed to be a buildout on pylons but I don't think that's nessacery when you consider the following.
Here's the ride in Paris. The Red outline is the show building and ride, the rest is just facade, line and restaurant.
Here is how it would fit on the current plot of the land, with the new entrance facade and indoor line in purple. The rest of the line will be outside in the pavilion looking building in the concept art.
First the current show building is pictured in the concept art. As you can see here.
I think the new ride is just going in the back corner of that land. In Paris, the facade and line are an addition onto the actual show building. The entrance can easily be moved. Also, the service road behind this pavilion goes down a pretty steep hill into the tunnel underneath the water way. It would not be in the way if there needed to be a buildout on pylons but I don't think that's nessacery when you consider the following.
Here's the ride in Paris. The Red outline is the show building and ride, the rest is just facade, line and restaurant.
Here is how it would fit on the current plot of the land, with the new entrance facade and indoor line in purple. The rest of the line will be outside in the pavilion looking building in the concept art.
The ride building is not going in that location, it will simply be a tall facade. The permit doesn't even cover the area you have the building in.Here's my theory:
First the current show building is pictured in the concept art. As you can see here.
I think the new ride is just going in the back corner of that land. In Paris, the facade and line are an addition onto the actual show building. The entrance can easily be moved. Also, the service road behind this pavilion goes down a pretty steep hill into the tunnel underneath the water way. It would not be in the way if there needed to be a buildout on pylons but I don't think that's nessacery when you consider the following.
Here's the ride in Paris. The Red outline is the show building and ride, the rest is just facade, line and restaurant.
Here is how it would fit on the current plot of the land, with the new entrance facade and indoor line in purple. The rest of the line will be outside in the pavilion looking building in the concept art.
Look at Alicia's drawing... it will be very similar to what she has.
It will not be oriented that way. It will be rotated 90 degrees to the left - and be a third smaller without the restaurant.
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darkridelover
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I think the whole show building is just going to go in the corner like the concept art shows. It fit's there perfectly. There would be no reason they would cut off several service roads and about 20 exit doors with a hallway if they could just put the whole thing in it's own corner. I could be wrong but I will refer back to this post at a later date if I'm right.
I think it's going here.
I think it's going here.
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Except none of that fits within the permitted area. From permits we can surmise it will be going between France and Morocco, which still places the Eiffel tower in the correct spot in the concept art...I think it's going here.
I like this mock up from June I just found from WDWThemeParks.com:
The dotted lines show the area from the permit. They can only do construction within those dotted lines. And that includes new retention ponds being added where they currently keep the festival booths.
So this seems to be the POV that the concept art was depicting for Rat. Seems as though there will be a large, themed courtyard on the backside of France leading to the ride building. Martin has backed up this concept below...
Essentially, this is a view as seen from the Skyliner:
As you can see in the first image, part of backstage is already themed (much like ToT is themed on all sides) and seems to match the theming shown in the concept art.
Essentially, this is a view as seen from the Skyliner:
As you can see in the first image, part of backstage is already themed (much like ToT is themed on all sides) and seems to match the theming shown in the concept art.
awhen
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Very nice. I can see why the Eiffel Tower is going to be moved, since it will be obvious from the back that it sits on that building.So this seems to be the POV that the concept art was depicting for Rat. Seems as though there will be a large, themed courtyard on the backside of France leading to the ride building. Martin has backed up this concept below...
Essentially, this is a view as seen from the Skyliner:
As you can see in the first image, part of backstage is already themed (much like ToT is themed on all sides) and seems to match the theming shown in the concept art.
Andysol
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Relooking at this concept art- it makes France incredible. Even without the ride itself, just the addition of the show building adds so much more height and detail to the area resulting in a more immersive environment.
Essentially, this is a view as seen from the Skyliner:
As you can see in the first image, part of backstage is already themed (much like ToT is themed on all sides) and seems to match the theming shown in the concept art.
I've always said every country needs a restaurant and a legitimate attraction. Some could be a very good theater, but it certainly needs more rides. Take that into account while adding 1-2 more countries, and Epcot is an immediate 2 day park. Maybe even more.
5th gate? No need. Epcot is ripe for even further expansion around the world all while incorporating thematically appropriate IPs to the world.
Awesome demonstration! This makes it easier to understand being at the same angle as the concept art. Did you make this image?
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I'm hopeful that moving the tower will fix the sight line issues with swan and dolphin making it look like a tiny prop.
belloq87
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I hope that the Eiffel Tower's eventual new spot isn't going to compromise the view looking up the main corridor towards Impressions.
Beyond that, I think the new areas that are going to be opened up as part of Ratatouille's expansion should make France perhaps the best World Showcase pavilion. It's really going to have it all: great food, great architecture, a movie, and a ride. It's almost unfair that there are still other pavilions with only those first two bases covered.
Beyond that, I think the new areas that are going to be opened up as part of Ratatouille's expansion should make France perhaps the best World Showcase pavilion. It's really going to have it all: great food, great architecture, a movie, and a ride. It's almost unfair that there are still other pavilions with only those first two bases covered.
Andysol
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epcyclopedia
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Ignoring the Outpost, I think the U.K. Is the weakest pavilion.
I should've made it clear that I did NOT make the image... it was an image a user on Magic created.
UNIrd
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Unless Disney continues to be replace-happy. I'm surprised there aren't rumors of Gran Fiesta Tour getting the Frozen Ever After treatment for Coco. Or are there?
ChristopherSE
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Oh, there are lol. But it may be "The Gran Fiesta Tour ft. The Characters of Coco" and not a complete overhaul like Frozen. Others on the forum can speak on it much better than I can
Yes, not nearly as extensive as FEA. It would be a simple change of video on the screens and replacing the Three Caballeros with select characters from Coco.
It could essentially happen with a closure of less than a week.