Shanghai Disneyland

[Parkscope Joe]

So, has this been deemed a success attendance wise? Is it busy?

I think it's still too early to tell if it's a success but it's not a catastrophic failure.

 

[sparky]

I think it's still too early to tell if it's a success but it's not a catastrophic failure.

I think it is highly unlikely you will hear if it IS a failure. The Chinese government has a stake in making it appear to be the most successful theme park in the world.

 

[bob albert]

I think it's still too early to tell if it's a success but it's not a catastrophic failure.

It will be a success eventually guaranteed. China has a crapload of people entering the middle/upper class. The question is will there be enough for the growth and expansion plans to move forward.

 

[Mad Dog]

Doesn't sound like it will make that 27 million guest number they were bandying about. But, then again, that's an unrealistic figure.

 

[bob albert]

Doesn't sound like it will make that 27 million guest number they were bandying about. But, then again, that's an unrealistic figure.

Unless they have some never before seen ride capacity on everything 27 million would be absurd considering the amount of attractions they have. Lets take one ride that holds the most at 2500 per hour. That is 13,687,500 at max at 15 hours per day assuming Disneyland is open 365 days a year. How many attractions can one get done in such a long day? That seems like a pretty large divide. Consider Disneyland is around 19.5 mil per year at this point in the us. I mean if you wanted to get 27 mil at that capacity you would have to be pretty dumb to not be building another park. If they were confident in that number they would already be building like crazy.

 

[Mad Dog]

Unless they have some never before seen ride capacity on everything 27 million would be absurd considering the amount of attractions they have. Lets take one ride that holds the most at 2500 per hour. That is 13,687,500 at max at 15 hours per day assuming Disneyland is open 365 days a year. How many attractions can one get done in such a long day? That seems like a pretty large divide. Consider Disneyland is around 19.5 mil per year at this point in the us. I mean if you wanted to get 27 mil at that capacity you would have to be pretty dumb to not be building another park. If they were confident in that number they would already be building like crazy.

Exactly. And they don't have half the attractions that WDW does. It's a huge park size wise, but it's pretty sparse when it comes to attractions, especially if there's been so much attraction down time, if rumors are correct.

 

[JoeCamel]

Have to give them their due and say they are building (what should have opened at day one) so maybe they can flesh this out but how long til they get their 5 - 6 bil investment and what cut the Chi-coms will take is up for discussion. I think this will be long past Iger's departure before it gets the money back and even longer before it makes money for TWDC.

 

[OLSinFLA]

Unless they have some never before seen ride capacity on everything 27 million would be absurd considering the amount of attractions they have. Lets take one ride that holds the most at 2500 per hour. That is 13,687,500 at max at 15 hours per day assuming Disneyland is open 365 days a year. How many attractions can one get done in such a long day? That seems like a pretty large divide. Consider Disneyland is around 19.5 mil per year at this point in the us. I mean if you wanted to get 27 mil at that capacity you would have to be pretty dumb to not be building another park. If they were confident in that number they would already be building like crazy.

27 million is World's Fair type numbers. No way could whats there support that kind of crowd.

 

[Mad Dog]

I think it is highly unlikely you will hear if it IS a failure. The Chinese government has a stake in making it appear to be the most successful theme park in the world.

Yep. Plus we'll never be able to trust their numbers anyway. They lie big time.

 

[WAJAS]

Have to give them their due and say they are building (what should have opened at day one) so maybe they can flesh this out but how long til they get their 5 - 6 bil investment and what cut the Chi-coms will take is up for discussion. I think this will be long past Iger's departure before it gets the money back and even longer before it makes money for TWDC.

Well there is a whole Toy Story Land that is apparently finally being built. You'll notice it was part of the original concept art and many of the buildings were built retroactively for backstage stuff.

 

[GAcoaster]

Opening with only 14 attractions, they can't be expecting too many guests. Certainly not 27 million. I'm figuring they are/were expecting about 4-5 million this year, and about 8-9 million a year for the first couple of years.

 

[twebber55]

the CCG will probably fib on attendance figures anyway, no way we ll know

 

[WAJAS]

Shanghai Disneyland has its first expansion with Tron Realm

Looks like Shangahi is getting an updated version of our TestTrack post show themed to Tron on Seltember 20th.

 

[Nick]

Shanghai Disneyland has its first expansion with Tron Realm

Looks like Shangahi is getting an updated version of our TestTrack post show themed to Tron on Seltember 20th.

Seems more like the preshow, except instead of building your own car, your building a lightcycle. No coincidence that this is sponsored by Chevrolet.

 

[WAJAS]

Seems more like the preshow, except instead of building your own car, your building a lightcycle. No coincidence that this is sponsored by Chevrolet.

I guess it's a combo of both. It's like TestTrack without the ride.

 

[AlexanderMBush]

Need i say anything about this, besides that Disney didn't think logically of getting it done in the first place when the park originally opened?

Get Ready to Play! Toy Story Land is Coming to Shanghai Disneyland – D23

 

[bob albert]

"In fact, it’s SO popular, that the expansion began before Shanghai Disneyland opened (Shanghai Disney Resort also features an unbelievable hotel inspired by the series)"

Classic Disney spin. "We didn't cheap out on building the whole thing, we started early!" I'm sure they will just "have" to cut Orlando to pay for it.

 

[WAJAS]

"In fact, it’s SO popular, that the expansion began before Shanghai Disneyland opened (Shanghai Disney Resort also features an unbelievable hotel inspired by the series)"

Classic Disney spin. "We didn't cheap out on building the whole thing, we started early!" I'm sure they will just "have" to cut Orlando to pay for it.

They did it early because it was a part of the original plans for the park. They aren't being proactive, the opposite in fact.

 

[Joel]

Roaring Rapids at Shanghai Disneyland Closed Indefinitely – Park Pass

I wonder if this has to do with that ride in Australia that killed a few people?

Australia Theme Park Accident: Ride Is Also Popular in U.S.
Florida theme park closes water ride after four die in Australia - NY Daily News

 

[Nick]

Roaring Rapids at Shanghai Disneyland Closed Indefinitely – Park Pass

I wonder if this has to do with that ride in Australia that killed a few people?

Australia Theme Park Accident: Ride Is Also Popular in U.S.
Florida theme park closes water ride after four die in Australia - NY Daily News

Possible, but the ride was open last week by all accounts so I don't see why they would just be closing it now.