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@Chris Galindo According to your sources, do you think SFMM will add a major coaster for their 50th?
 
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I thought they couldn't afford B&M any longer.

Instead of another coaster, they should:

-Repaint Tatsu
-Re-model the front gate
-Refurb Samurai Summit
-Refurb Baja Ridge
-Remodel the other restrooms in the park
-Give Viper new trains/track instead of just systems overhaul
-Replace 90's TV's with 4k HDR TV's (It's time)
-Refurb X2
-Add a dark ride (unlikely)
-Add a cool flat ride (likely)
-Open a new land/ride geared for kids
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Completely agree. Last I heard Tatsu will be next on the radar to get painted, we will see.

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If they’re going to spend that kind of money at SFMM, why not use it on a Giga? I would not be opposed to a B&M dive machine, but give me my Giga first!

I don’t see B&M as an option right now as they’re seemingly just going with cheaper manufacturers like RMC, Premire, and S&S. I could see them working with B&M again later in the next decade.

Also, didn’t they lose interest in this when Knott’s added Hangtime?
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Same, I put on the survey that the Dive Machine was just going to be an over saturation of coasters at the park.

Talked to a source who said SFGAM and SFA also received the same survey. The survey also asked our thoughts on a single-rail coaster.

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The plans before Neil came in were to have a major single capita investment for SFMM's 50th. Rumor I always heard was a mega coaster (presumably giga). With the addition of West Coast Racers it seems obvious plans have changed so I'm still holding out for hope that our 50th is still something special. While I trust and love Neil, I would appreciate something that put SFMM back on the map.
 
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Dive machines do look great visually, but they're personally my least favorite B&M style. Once you do the initial drop, the rest of the ride tends to be a yawn. That said, they are generally a hit with the GP.

But as Freak said, I don't really know why SFMM would put in a dive machine with Hangtime just opening so recently. I guess they could make a "bigger, taller" version... but I'd really hope for something else for their 50th (if this is in fact what it's for). The elusive Giga would be the Holy Grail here, as would an extended single-rail coaster.

But yeah, having WCR for next year does throw a wrench in the planning. I think SFMM may have put themselves in a bit of a spot here... as known as the "roller coaster capital of the world", a lot of people (I would imagine even GP) would be pretty pissed off (or at the very least, confused) if they didn't put in coaster for their 50th. At the same time, if the coaster isn't impressive, or there's not coaster at all, just as many people will find it a pretty weak offering.

I've always felt what the park is missing, coaster-wise, is a wild mouse. Or an El Loco. But I'd have to admit, a wild mouse would be a pretty weak 50th anniversary coaster announcement. An El Loco could work, if they got one of the insane models first demonstrated. But I don't really see that happening, either.
 
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To be frank, I can see every coaster in SFMM getting enhancements or additions, than a Dive Coaster.

@Rideguy70 put's it best, as a Dive Coaster shouldn't be the be-all, end-all. There are quite a few concepts rolling around that would be fun to see at SFMM, even if they'd make no sense for a 50th anniversary.
 
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Aren’t B&M dive coasters way cheaper than a Intamin or B&M Giga? Plus dive coasters are insanely popular with the GP as previously stated.
 
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And, a Dive coaster could work really well with MM's terrain. You wouldn't need a huge lift hill to create a huge drop.
 
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If they are building tall... Viper is probably getting the axe.
 
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If they are building tall... Viper is probably getting the axe.
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It would make sense since I don't know where else they would build a Giga. Dive or mega coaster.

Though considering they are about to complete a massive systems overhaul on Viper, it would be a bit strange to spend capital on something that will be torn down.
 
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I would look at Roaring Rapids as an expansion area. There was a rumor it was on its way out already and Six Flags seems to be phasing out many water rides to try and push people into the water parks.
 
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I would look at Roaring Rapids as an expansion area. There was a rumor it was on its way out already and Six Flags seems to be phasing out many water rides to try and push people into the water parks.
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I'm not happy about this if this is what they are planning. SFMM needs every water ride it can get, especially after the removal of Log Jammer.
 
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They're not very popular, ironically, Roaring Rapids appears to be the only one that is, but it's removal has popped up on various circumstances
 
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The problem with Roaring Rapids is that it operates for only 4-5 months out of the year.
 
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Could you imagine SFMM doing a 400 ft. T-Rex Stratacoaster? THAT would put them on the map for the 50th.
 
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The nice thing about Viper is that it always has a short line, even when the park is busy.
 
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SOCAL110 said:
I thought they couldn't afford B&M any longer.
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"Couldn't afford" more like won't shell out the cash
 
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Ryan said:
"Couldn't afford" more like won't shell out the cash
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True.

But, considering SF filed for bankruptcy a little under a decade ago, I understand their current fiscally conservative approach to coasters.



@Chris Galindo Have you heard anything recently about possible 2020 addition rumors?
 
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Not really. All I have heard though was that Baja Ridge was probably the next area being targeted for update (from Revolution all the way to Tatsu). Maybe a flat ride will go there?
 
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Baja Ridge refurb is a good move.

I'm a little surprised by all the wrong reports that Apocalypse was going to be re-themed. I think it's been confirmed that it's staying with exactly the same name and theme.
 
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The initial press release actually said Apocalypse would get rethemed. I'm surprised they opted out of it but it makes sense with the budget cuts and all. Could've made the theme after project cars to fit in with West Coast Racers.

Also of note - SFMM has a lifetime buyout for the IP that goes with WCR, which is very interesting and relieving.
 
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