Star Wars: The Last Jedi

[Ultranel]

China still hates Star Wars.



Last Jedi Rises To $1.12B, #16 On WW Chart, But China Force Not Strong | Deadline

Perhaps they are the smart ones

 

[OhHaiInternet95]

Ok, I just watched this movie. I'd put it about on par with Return of the Jedi.

I appreciated the fact that it took some bold risks, and corrected the problem I had with Force Awakens. Unfortunately, the backlash it's been getting is EXACTLY why so many sequels nowadays are direct rehashes.

Oh and surprisingly, I actually kinda liked Rose.

 

[rhino4evr]

The amount of hate this movie receives online is ridiculous.

 

[TheGentTrent]

The amount of hate this movie receives online is ridiculous.

Completely agreed, I must be in the minority since I loved it despite not being a hardcore Star Wars fan. I liked it a lot more than Force Awakens because this one at least tried to be fresh. It was not a perfect movie, to be sure, but it kept me guessing what would happen next the whole time. I can understand some being disappointed, but to the people saying it was THE worst film in the series: that's just absurd, is it not?

 

[rhino4evr]

Completely agreed, I must be in the minority since I loved it despite not being a hardcore Star Wars fan. I liked it a lot more than Force Awakens because this one at least tried to be fresh. It was not a perfect movie, to be sure, but it kept me guessing what would happen next the whole time. I can understand some being disappointed, but to the people saying it was THE worst film in the series: that's just absurd, is it not?

It is absurd. The mob mentality of the internet is clearly the worst aspect of it. I'm a pretty die hard Star Wars fan, and I just find most of the complaints the exact opposite complaints of The Force Awakens detractors. Bottom-line, some people will NEVER be happy.

 

[OhHaiInternet95]

It is absurd. The mob mentality of the internet is clearly the worst aspect of it. I'm a pretty die hard Star Wars fan, and I just find most of the complaints the exact opposite complaints of The Force Awakens detractors. Bottom-line, some people will NEVER be happy.

I was one of those Force Awakens detractors, so I was quite happy to see them do something different.

 

[rhino4evr]

I mean, if you don't like the movie, that's cool. It's not perfect, and everyone is entitled to an opinion.....
however, going on and on and on and on and on about how the movie "ruined your childhood" or whatever is just childish and petty. Spraying constant negativity day after day doesn't help anyone. It just fuels similar behavior elsewhere.

Honestly, I wish the "comment" section on Facebook could be "disabled".

 

[Disneyhead]

I mean, if you don't like the movie, that's cool. It's not perfect, and everyone is entitled to an opinion.....
however, going on and on and on and on and on about how the movie "ruined your childhood" or whatever is just childish and petty. Spraying constant negativity day after day doesn't help anyone. It just fuels similar behavior elsewhere.

Honestly, I wish the "comment" section on Facebook could be "disabled".

You just don't get it. My life has been ruined since 1983 when TDO moved the goat in PotC 18 inches to the left.

 

[OhHaiInternet95]

You just don't get. My life has been ruined since 1983 when TDO moved the goat in PotC 18 inches to the left.

 

[Ultranel]

What I want to know how are numbers doing on DVD sells against Jumanji and Justice League? Has anyone bother to check?

 

[rhino4evr]

Amazon shows Last Jedi in first place as current best sellers............
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[Magic-Man]

You gotta be kidding me. Not to mention the fact that THIS IS TRENDING ON TWITTER

 

[Nick]

Watched TLJ today as it’s on Disney+ now (there’s an entire cut of the movie that’s just the John Williams score!). This was my first time watching it since it being in theaters. The Canto Bight thing didn’t bother me as much this time, the main problem with that side story was it went on for too long.

The Red Guard lightsaber fight/Snoke kill was still badass. The whole movie really left it open ended for Kylo to either be the big bad or to be redeemed.

And Luke’s character development in this movie was great, tbh. He goes from being someone who had gone to the “most hard to find place in the galaxy” and cutting himself off from the force to finding a way to channel the force one last time not just for the Resistance, but also to protect his sister from a certain death from the evil he created in Ben Solo. Luke faced his failure and helped to bring out some of the light in him by the end.

Luke dies a hero.

I understand the film did things fans weren’t expecting, but that doesn’t make it a bad film. Nor does a film that throws the kitchen sink of fanfic at you mean it’s a good film.

 

[Scott W.]

Watched TLJ today as it’s on Disney+ now (there’s an entire cut of the movie that’s just the John Williams score!). This was my first time watching it since it being in theaters. The Canto Bight thing didn’t bother me as much this time, the main problem with that side story was it went on for too long.

The Red Guard lightsaber fight/Snoke kill was still badass. The whole movie really left it open ended for Kylo to either be the big bad or to be redeemed.

And Luke’s character development in this movie was great, tbh. He goes from being someone who had gone to the “most hard to find place in the galaxy” and cutting himself off from the force to finding a way to channel the force again not just for the Resistance, but also to protect his sister from a certain death from the evil he created in Ben Solo.

Luke faced his failure and helped to bring out some of the light in him by the end. Luke dies a hero. I understand the film did things fans weren’t expecting, but that doesn’t make it a bad film. Nor does a film that throws the kitchen sink of fanfic at you mean it’s a good film.

Weirdly, I watched it on Netflix on Christmas day (Last day it was available and using a VPN).

I'll get my issues out the way first and foremost. I hated the call that Poe made at the start, it felt like a huge swing and a miss and just a bad attempt at comedy. I felt like Finn was just a bumbling goofy waste of a character who had so much potential to do something great with. I found the whole Luke not actually being there a weird thing to happen and I just don't see the point except from physically not being able to get there. The acting wasn't great but Adam Driver, Hamill and Fisher nailed it.

Getting past that. I actually really enjoyed it this time. Far more than watching it in the cinema. It didn't feel slow paced. I hated the casino sideline on the first viewing but didn't mind it at all and actually enjoyed the exploration of the universe. Visually, it was incredible, by far the best looking Star Wars film to date. Holdo's suicide lightspeed attack along with the complete silence is hands down, one of the greatest Star Wars moments ever.

I've yet to see Episode IX but I'm reading some very mixed things and as much as I think that TLJ wasn't perfectly executed, it did bring about a lot of interesting new direction which I hope that the new movie follows but I'm doubting that now.

 

[Disneyhead]

 

[Jerroddragon]

Its funny because I'm watching the Mando Documentary and at the end of episode 2 Dave Foini talks about Lukes arc in the first films and I'm like god dam he gets it and texted my friend who likes Last Jedi about it and we still disagree.
Some like Luke being not happy with his legacy and the Jedi (think its a cool idea but should not have been Lukes arc) and for me I still don't get how a Guy goes from I wont kill my father, to die nephew...yeah yeah it was a mistake luke made but just not a fan of it.

Hell I think you could have made this work if instead of Luke doing that Kylo leaves to learn about the dark side and Luke comes and attacks Snoke with other Jedi and thats when Kylo becomes part of the dark side and has a real reason to kill the young jedi. Anyway not trying to start a fight just my thoughts

 

[Nick]

Luke grew up. People change with age. I don’t know why things like that are so hard to understand.

 

[Jerroddragon]

Luke grew up. People change with age. I don’t know why things like that are so hard to understand.

I mean it sucks he regressed as a character, while in the Original books he grew more into a better human, never perfect but just someone always trying to make the universe greater.
The real reason Luke is what he they made him is the director wanting to subvert the character and second his age. They didn't want to risk these older actors be in many more films so why not just do whatever with the characters.

I also think many fans see Luke as themselves, immature at first but over time and trials becoming a better person...to think one day we would make such a big mistake we would hid over protecting our friends and family its hard to swallow. If they had another saga to explore Luke and show him slowly losing faith in humans and showing Ben and him slipping apart would make it in my opinion better.

 

[Nick]

I mean it sucks he regressed as a character, while in the Original books he grew more into a better human, never perfect but just someone always trying to make the universe greater.
The real reason Luke is what he they made him is the director wanting to subvert the character and second his age. They didn't want to risk these older actors be in many more films so why not just do whatever with the characters.

I also think many fans see Luke as themselves, immature at first but over time and trials becoming a better person...to think one day we would make such a big mistake we would hid over protecting our friends and family its hard to swallow. If they had another saga to explore Luke and show him slowly losing faith in humans and showing Ben and him slipping apart would make it in my opinion better.

I think you love the character and wanted to see more than him. That's perfectly fine. You didn't want him to die.

But I went into this movie expecting almost exactly what we got because of how TFA ended. He died a hero, which should at least be of comfort. Maybe it's because I don't over think some of these things, but I looked at the character of Luke Skywalker and thought, "How much longer do you realistically keep him around?" It's not that Mark Hamill is a dinosaur, but how believable is at a certain point if you kept Luke alive through this trilogy and then he came back in his what, 70's?

It's the same reason i'm expecting Indiana Jones to die in Indy 5 and why I wasn't surprised or mad at

Spoiler

Joel dying in TLOU Part 2. Joel was about 60 and had fought for about 25 years in that world. I started thinking this fairly quickly into playing the game and seeing where Joel now was in life.

After a certain point, it gets to where you are beyond believability for a character to continue to exist.

 

[SkiBum]

I think you love the character and wanted to see more than him. That's perfectly fine. You didn't want him to die.

But I went into this movie expecting almost exactly what we got because of how TFA ended. He died a hero, which should at least be of comfort. Maybe it's because I don't over think some of these things, but I looked at the character of Luke Skywalker and thought, "How much longer do you realistically keep him around?" It's not that Mark Hamill is a dinosaur, but how believable is at a certain point if you kept Luke alive through this trilogy and then he came back in his what, 70's?

After a certain point, it gets to where you are beyond believability for a character to continue to exist.

I hate it when I have to google the abbreviations. I feel like I'm missing something. From Hyrule to your last post, I can tell not ever owning a video game console has me not understanding some cultural references.

I found this on Youtube. I find it funny and fun at the same time: