State of USH - What's Next?

[highdefrex]

Don’t mind me. Just gonna flip the “Days Without an Incident” counter back to 0 real quick.

 

[Jerroddragon]

By that logic - all the on-site hotels, all the on-site hotels would be sitting empty. Obviously, there is a demand for them.... Which brings us back to...



Not everyone vacations the same. I'm not in CA. I can't just take a Metro or an Uber, especially with a 2-year-old, so I would need something on-site or as close to on-site as possible with transportation options. If Hilton and Sheraton are either too expensive or all booked, then what?

I mean have you seen Disneyland or Knotts hotels not have rooms available? I do not see people saying they can't get a room because of availability its the price keeping most out

People seem to be finding a way because I see kids there. Everyone makes a choice You can rent a car, Uber, Metro if none of those are options for your family I see USH talks about Transfer Services Offered By Karmel Shuttle which are available at partnered hotels and LAX.

Also....I want to say again I agree there are benefits and putting a hotel a Lot H sounds great to me.

We just have limited space and as someone who goes to the park and is apart of one of the bigger demographics APs/locals people want more. When I talk to anyone its about how they love the park but wish Nintendo or Potter was bigger or how we need more shows. So if they can find a way to do both then great please do it

Don’t mind me. Just gonna flip the “Days Without an Incident” counter back to 0 real quick.

I mean sorry I have thoughts and opinions that don't match yours? I go to the parks in CA a great deal and think I have valid points for my side of what I'd want to happen at USH and doubt anyone would be upset if I snapped my fingers and the hotel land was two new lands I feel most people would generally be excited and allow USH to become a bigger park in many ways

 

[Brian G.]

I mean have you seen Disneyland or Knotts hotels not have rooms available? I do not see people saying they can't get a room because of availability its the price keeping most out

People seem to be finding a way because I see kids there. Everyone makes a choice You can rent a car, Uber, Metro if none of those are options for your family I see USH talks about Transfer Services Offered By Karmel Shuttle which are available at partnered hotels and LAX.

You can't be this dense, dude...

We just have limited space and as someone who goes to the park and is apart of one of the bigger demographics APs/locals people want more. When I talk to anyone its about how they love the park but wish Nintendo or Potter was bigger or how we need more shows. So if they can find a way to do both then great please do it

Potter's/Nintendo's size has nothing to do with a hotel.

 

[Jerroddragon]

You can't be this dense, dude...



Potter's/Nintendo's size has nothing to do with a hotel.

We just disagree, you and I both have bias which means we both have different wants for the park

You live in Florida you have three amazing theme parks and when you come here you want to be able to have a hotel that you can just walk into the park. I understand that and others want that at as well but thats not everyone option either

However many APs and locals would rather with out limited space use it to increase the park. I've laid out my reasons and you've laid out yours

I hope they find a way to meet in the middle and make us both happy

 

[Brian G.]

We just disagree, you and I both have bias which means we both have different wants for the park

You live in Florida you have three amazing theme parks and when you come here you want to be able to have a hotel that you can just walk into the park. I understand that and others want that at as well but thats not everyone option either

However many APs and locals would rather with out limited space use it to increase the park. I've laid out my reasons and you've laid out yours

I hope they find a way to meet in the middle and make us both happy

But you keep speaking on behalf of others, not yourself. There are literally locals and APs telling you they want a hotel, too.

 

[Jerroddragon]

But you keep speaking on behalf of others, not yourself. There are literally locals and APs telling you they want a hotel, too.

I'm speaking for people I meet in the park and friend's I bring into the park the thing that is always noted is this is cool, but I wish it was bigger and had more to do

Lets pretend the hotel is the number issue at USH, what would say is the next biggest issue for Guests? I would say the amount of things to do but if you know nothing else please let me know

 

[Jonathan]

Universal Studios Hollywood has many needs. A hotel is one of them. Where the rumored plots for a hotel are located are all outside the berm of the theme park. Jerrod, you want more attractions...totally get it. Having hotels creates a new revenue streams which Hollywood has never had and in turn brings more money into the park and allows for further expansion. Ultimately the park will grow whether a hotel is built or not. Hotels aid and further lengthen the guests stay. No one is saying tear down Secret Life of Pets and put a hotel in its place and at least from what we all gather, they're not placing a hotel in the lower lot.

As a USH Pass Member, I would absolutely do staycations at the park if they had an on-site hotel and I only live 30 min away. And I'm willing to bet I'm not the only one.

 

[Brian G.]

I'm speaking for people I meet in the park and friend's I bring into the park the thing that is always noted is this is cool, but I wish it was bigger and had more to do

Lets pretend the hotel is the number issue at USH, what would say is the next biggest issue for Guests? I would say the amount of things to do but if you know nothing else please let me know

Besides the easy ROI that you can use to invest back into attractions, I would say adding a hotel would help solve the CityWalk problem, which would coincide with Uni completing the security overhaul and creating that bubble. Now you'll have things open later. I understand space is a luxury at USH - but any hotel addition would not be eating into any prime spots , especially since the rumor is that the hotels will hold a small number of rooms compared to the industry average.

 

[Freak]

You know I think Jerrod is cooking here. If Disney would just get rid of those stupid hotels, they can have more room for rides! Guest accommodations and good business models be damned! WE NEED MORE ROOM FOR RIDES!!!!

Of course theme parks in California are going to maximize their space. But just demo’ing a hotel for moar ridez is not an optimal business model. People need a place to stay. You’re missing out on good money if you tear down hotels. It’s that simple.

 

[highdefrex]

You know I think Jerrod is cooking here. If Disney would just get rid of those stupid hotels, they can have more room for rides! Guest accommodations and good business models be damned! WE NEED MORE ROOM FOR RIDES!!!!

Of course theme parks in California are going to maximize their space. But just demo’ing a hotel for moar ridez is not an optimal business model. People need a place to stay. You’re missing out on good money if you tear down hotels. It’s that simple.

Quite frankly, people can sleep in their cars if it means I get more of that sweet, sweet — checks notes — merch.

 

[Jerroddragon]

Quite frankly, people can sleep in their cars if it means I get more of that sweet, sweet — checks notes — merch.

Lol

Merch is what dives these parks and you make a land or attraction and can sell more of it

FNAF is selling little pizzas and making a killing and this pays for that house coming to the park. I literally said I want to have two new lands with rides and shows and extra space for HHN, Fan Fest and other events as well. Also the front area Blvd should be two stories anyway to save space like I said then you can add the VIP restaurant to the front area where you check in and make the process easier and also add basically a free ad for it when you see people dining in a nice location above you and people will ask a CM...how do I eat there?

I just travel cheaper then many people on this site do, I stay at none Theme park hotels all the time when I travel around CA or other states to be able to afford going. I would love to stay at the Disneyland hotel for....ohhh its 500 dollars a night the same price as my USH pass...yeah I will just keep staying at the hotels within walking or a short drive because its an option to work for me.
Also USH and Disneyland have hotels they partner with to give you transportation to the parks and so to me there are options.

 

[Michael S]

I just travel cheaper then many people on this site do, I stay at none Theme park hotels all the time when I travel around CA or other states to be able to afford going. I would love to stay at the Disneyland hotel for....ohhh its 500 dollars a night the same price as my USH pass...yeah I will just keep staying at the hotels within walking or a short drive because its an option to work for me.
Also USH and Disneyland have hotels they partner with to give you transportation to the parks and so to me there are options.

And those options will still be there for you and others to utilize. People coming from out of state/country are more than willing to carve out a piece of their budget for $500/night or a similar price range, and that is money Universal wants, and can use toward expanding the theme park. If it wouldn’t be profitable and help grow the park, they wouldn’t be proposing it.

 

[highdefrex]

I just travel cheaper then many people on this site do, I stay at none Theme park hotels all the time when I travel around CA or other states to be able to afford going. I would love to stay at the Disneyland hotel for....ohhh its 500 dollars a night the same price as my USH pass...yeah I will just keep staying at the hotels within walking or a short drive because its an option to work for me.
Also USH and Disneyland have hotels they partner with to give you transportation to the parks and so to me there are options.

I live 30 minutes away from Universal (so long as the 5 is clear). I don't stay at hotels, even when traffic is nuts and it takes an hour or more to get home. I've never stayed at a Disneyland hotel despite it taking hours to get there depending on traffic and knowing I'm going to dread the drive home at midnight because I won't actually get into bed until 2am-3am. But my choice to drive home is my choice, and if other people want to stay at an on site hotel, whether they live a half hour away or four hours away, then that's their choice, and I can't sit here going, "Well, they should just suck it up and drive home."

All anyone is trying to tell you -- and I beg you, as always, please, please just read what I'm about to say -- is that Universal building their own on site hotel is a way for them to get a slice of the pie. That's it. Yes, people can stay at other hotels in the area. We get that. But Universal building a hotel on site, like they do in Orlando, like Disneyland and Knott's do here, is so that they can reap the financial benefits of it, which, in turn, can also help fund what you want: More rides, more lands, more experiences.

Forget the price of a room. No one's asking you to pay it. But people other than you will pay it, whether it's locals coming from an hour or two away who don't want to drive home at 2am after HHN, or people coming from another state or country. And that's what Universal wants, those extra bucks, regardless of who it's coming from.

No one, absolutely no one, is arguing with you against having more "things to do" at Universal. Go back and reread everything; you're having a one-sided argument with nobody. We all want new rides and for the park to grow and expand. We repeat it each and every single time this circular situation happens where you act like you and you alone are the only one who wants the park to grow. A hotel and a park expansion can be symbiotic in nature, allowing "Universal Studios Hollywood" to grow into "Universal Hollywood Resort," potentially -- either way, new rides and lands will attract guests from all over, and having a Universal-owned hotel for them to stay at would give Universal a slice of the money those visitors would be bringing in rather than letting non-Universal-owned hotels reap all the benefits, and even potentially keep guests sticking around for more than a day.

That's all anyone is trying to say to you, that even if you personally don't ever use it, Universal having their own hotel would be a positive because it would feed into the ecosystem of the park overall and allow it to grow further. We're in "I don't care about Fast and Furious" territory here again, where it seems like you're not listening to what anyone's saying because you didn't like F&F as an IP and wanted more Nintendo, so therefore everyone else (including Universal) was dumb for being okay with the F&F coaster, rather than looking at the bigger picture.

 

[ethanuniversal]

What?

No no no you need the attractions to stay at a hotel.....if there are no new draws then the hotels will either be empty or barley making profits

HHN shows that the park needs more to do not hotels...people will come when you give them a reason hotels or not. The hotels would be cool for guests but USH is mostly a local park which is why right now if you go a day when its not HHN the parks are empty....Grinchmas brings in locals and then we get to the slow season because for whatever reason they refuse to do Lunar News Years. I mean its not that hard use the plaza and bring in shows, make a food pass and if Panda ever leaves bring it back as a seasonal attraction making its demand go up

But USH needs more things if they just stop after the coaster....good luck because Disney is going to each your lunch

The Sheraton and Hilton are consistently close to or actually being sold out, so yes USH hotel would do wonders

For now....I think you guys are not looking at the numbers right now travel is down

We don't need more rooms we need things to do

That is what brings people in...the hotel will make money for sure but we need two? right now with this inflation and people not wanting to visit the US anytime soon?

Once again Disneyland is the top dog, you follow there lead they are building all these attraction and USH plan is hotels....

People here might crap on Disney but they are on top for a reason they have event year round and keep building new things.

HHN is a sold out event and guess what was not needed? Hotels because you don't need to stay at USH its super easy to even get from burbank to USH like within 15 mins at max in the morning

USH needs more things, we need another show area for event like HHN and Fan fest so they can grow and hold more people.....then in 10 years get more hotels but the park needs more sooner then later every year we don't see another new ride or land is millions off the table

Multiple people I know that are coming or came for HHN either express that they’d love to stay at a UNIVERSAL owned hotel during HHN because the Hilton or Sheraton were sold out or too expensive and they are staying 10 plus minutes away

 

[Viator]

Yeah, outside of a hole of fixing live entertainment, the need for a on-property hotel that's co-owned by Universal should be the biggest thing for them ahead of LA2028.

 

[bdubsCEO]

I think an on-property hotel will go beyond just USH and if it's done properly could boost LA tourism in general. In theory it's a very fun city for tourism, but because of how it's laid out there's really no great centralized place to stay currently. I don't personally need a hotel, but it's going to be huge for the park and I'm excited to see Citywalk transform once it receives new purpose after the hotel opens.