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The Future of The Simpsons Ride/Springfield (Orlando)

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I have a hard time believing they would have built the swamp when they were just going to build a full fledged SHREK land 10 ft away. I know we’re just spitballing, but it’s certainly one of the most far fetched spitballs out there.
 
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Andysol said:
Attraction- who is the person who is going to book a trip to universal because a new shrek ride opened up?
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every millennial couple i know would be more intrigued by a trip to Universal if a Shrek land was there.
 
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I'm all for more Shrek representation in the parks, but Far Far Away doesn't seem like it would be a particularly interesting area to explore. One of the main jokes in Shrek 2 was that it was more or less just a modern city with a medieval backdrop. It doesn't really have many noteworthy landmarks beyond the castle and the Poison Apple tavern.

I feel like finding a way to add a proper Shrek attraction to the existing DreamWorks Land would be the better move.
 
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Jake S said:
every millennial couple i know would be more intrigued by a trip to Universal if a Shrek land was there.
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Hi, it’s me, a millennial.

I wouldn’t book a trip to universal because of a Shrek land. I’d be happy with it being there if it’s well themed. And even happier if the ride were great.

The question wasn’t would anyone be more intrigued. The question was what do you gain by an entire land that they aren’t getting already? And particularly what are they getting more than they’d get over another IP that doesn’t have a presence in the parks currently?

LOTR? Pokémon? Oz? Even Zelda? Sure. Shrek isn’t at that level.
 
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Andysol said:
If it’s marketable, sure.

I, personally, don’t care what IP goes there so long as the attraction is great and the theming is excellent. But let’s discuss the tangibles. Because to me, Shrek taking over sounds redundant.

Merch sales- how much more can they sell with a dedicated shrek land vs what’s in store now?
Food/beverage- what other items are they having that they don’t currently have at Swamp snacks
Attraction- who is the person who is going to book a trip to universal because a new shrek ride opened up?

Sell the idea like I’m the president of universal parks and resorts and convince me how it would make an attendance boost or financial sense over a different IP. Because that’s what UC would have to do.
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actually those are great points some that I didn't think about,
from my own family I can't think of anyone that would come to see Shrek right away, ( on obviously people would want to check the new attractions just as curiosity) or buy anything new. not even from the new movie.

but wicked, let's say? I can see my aunt and her daughters making a trip specifically for it. they would definitely buy stuff. I could definitely see them buying souvenirs for the occasion. they would tell people about their trip.
 
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Andysol said:
Hi, it’s me, a millennial.
I wouldn’t book a trip to universal because of a Shrek land.
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So you speak for everyone? :p I feel like the few of you in here who admit you don't like Shrek are just dismissing all rational points. Shrek may not be something like Potter or Nintendo that families book vacations for, but it's certainly a multi-generational crowd pleaser that people recognize and will enjoy. It's got potty humor for the little kids to enjoy and adult jokes hidden throughout that adults will catch onto as well.

Merch/Food - Tons of gag food and products with tons of options straight from the film. Farbucks, Ye Old Foot Locker, Burger Prince, Baskin Robin Hood, etc. Endless options for any retail or food place they want.
mccgavin said:
Far Far Away doesn't seem like it would be a particularly interesting area to explore. One of the main jokes in Shrek 2 was that it was more or less just a modern city with a medieval backdrop. It doesn't really have many noteworthy landmarks beyond the castle and the Poison Apple tavern.
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See, I feel like that makes it the perfect addition. The city of FFA was a commentary on modern Hollywood. Even looking like Hollywood Blvd lined with palm trees and retail stores. It could be a tongue in cheek commentary on Hollywood full of gags and commentary on (Disney?) fairy tales, just like Springfield is a tongue in cheek commentary on theme parks and consumerism. Springfield/Animal Actors isn't a ton of space so one attraction, the different retail/food and a small bar like what's there now is about all they'd need.
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I have a hard time believing they would have built the swamp when they were just going to build a full fledged SHREK land 10 ft away.
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Far Far Away is canonically located far from Shrek's Swamp. The trek to get there is half the plot of the first film. I'm not even more than a casual Shrek fan but I see how prominent it is even today and how ripe it is for a more fleshed out land.
 
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AustinT said:
So you speak for everyone? :p I feel like the few of you in here who admit you don't like Shrek are just dismissing all rational points. Shrek may not be something like Potter or Nintendo that families book vacations for, but it's certainly a multi-generational crowd pleaser that people recognize and will enjoy. It's got potty humor for the little kids to enjoy and adult jokes hidden throughout that adults will catch onto as well.

Merch/Food - Tons of gag food and products with tons of options straight from the film. Farbucks, Ye Old Foot Locker, Burger Prince, Baskin Robin Hood, etc. Endless options for any retail or food place they want.

See, I feel like that makes it the perfect addition. The city of FFA was a commentary on modern Hollywood. Even looking like Hollywood Blvd lined with palm trees and retail stores. It could be a tongue in cheek commentary on Hollywood full of gags and commentary on (Disney?) fairy tales, just like Springfield is a tongue in cheek commentary on theme parks and consumerism. Springfield/Animal Actors isn't a ton of space so one attraction, the different retail/food and a small bar like what's there now is about all they'd need.

Far Far Away is canonically located far from Shrek's Swamp. The trek to get there is half the plot of the first film. I'm not even more than a casual Shrek fan but I see how prominent it is even today and how ripe it is for a more fleshed out land.
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The comment has nothing to do with its potential, but everything to do with reality.

You’re talking about a satirical land modeled after Hollywood with an actual Hollywood boulevard one ogre away. Add to that, the swamp being located half a donkey’s *** away. What ogre god up in the blue sky would say, “this is a great idea and would sell oodles of tickets”? I mean, sure shrek is love and life and all that…but yall. Come on..they’ve got more profitable, streamlined properties to use.
 
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I don't know why we're debating the merits of a multi billion dollar franchise, featuring a spin-off movie that just made half a billion 3 years ago - and has another on the way.

I think an underrated part of having Far Far Away in this space is that it could replace the "parody" aspect of Springfield. Just like the queue for Shrek 4D - this could absolutely feature a bunch of theme park parody.

(I should clarify, I don't think Far Far Away will take over Springfield. But they absolutely have to have bigger plans for Shrek)
 
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UOR92 said:
Come on..they’ve got more profitable, streamlined properties to use.
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Shrek hater. Like which ones?
 
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I know this has been mentioned before, but the easiest conversion for Springfield would be Spongebob.

Krusty Burger > Krusty Krab
Luigi's Pizza > Krusty Krab Pizza
Frying Dutchman > Frying Dutchman
Lard Lad Donuts > Sandy's Texas-Sized Donuts
Cletus' > Chum Bucket
Moe's > Salty Splatoon

And then replace the Simpsons Ride with a much-needed simple, practical effects-heavy boat ride. Or God-forbid, they could go the cheap route and do another overlay for the Simpsons.

The biggest obstacle that I think would prevent this from happening is I don't know how Nickelodeon would feel about a beer stand selling alcohol themed to their headlining IP meant for kids. Outside of that Springfield to Bikini bottom would be the easiest, most practical, and marketable choice for a conversion.
 
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AustinT said:
Shrek hater. Like which ones?
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Now you’re just trolling here.
 
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Andysol said:
Food/beverage- what other items are they having that they don’t currently have at Swamp snacks
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At least the quick swapover for Lard Lad Donuts already exists.

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Parkscope Joe said:
Now you’re just trolling here.
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I've been providing responses when people have said there are no food, bev, or retail options, or questioning the popularity or profitability of the IP. If there are so many other IPs that are "more profitable and streamlined", let's hear the ideas that aren't Pokemon or Wicked then.
 
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AustinT said:
Shrek hater.
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This is definitely one of the insults of all time haha.
 
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This isn't exactly my cup of tea, but this could make sense... build Seoul with the headlining attraction being K-Pop Demon Hunters.

Seoul would perfectly fit within the current lineup of Hollywood, San Francisco, London, and New York. It's also 'close enough' geographically that Universal could toss in other eastern IP without general audiences noticing.

K-Pop Demon Hunters could potentially be a huge hit for an attraction. The movie set streaming records, had a decent box office (despite efforts to sabotage), the singles are often heard on the radio, and they're planning follow-ups/sequels, solidifying long term potential. This IP would also directly hit the young adult audience similar to Potter and Nintendo, with broad family appeal (rated PG), and tap into the growing anime + K-Pop market (despite it being neither real anime nor true K-Pop). Netflix has worked with Universal in the past (Stranger Things), but I could see a deal falling through due to $$$ or Netflix's other themed entertainment plans.

I haven't seen the movie but people seemed to have enjoyed it.
 
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Even with the film's breakout success, I think it's a little early to be pitching an entire K-Pop land.
 
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Clive said:
Even with the film's breakout success, I think it's a little early to be pitching an entire K-Pop land.
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Who said land?
 
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