The Icons and Lore Thread

[Clive]

I think Sinist3r and Surr3al being generally more energetic and playful is actually rather fitting, considering that in the lore, they've pretty much just been born after 33 years of being manifested.

It's like how Oddfellow was a parallel to Jack- More calm, calculating and imposing to Jack's maniacal and playful nature.

Oh, yeah, I’m not knocking their energy or attitude. It’s a good differentiator from Fear. But it does make them feel more like minions than they would otherwise. Something as simple as Fear is in a dark slumber to keep the lantern sealed, clearing the way for Sinist3r and Surr3al to be born and run amok in his absence.

 

[HHN Maddux]

Oh, yeah, I’m not knocking their energy or attitude. It’s a good differentiator from Fear. But it does make them feel more like minions than they would otherwise. Something as simple as Fear is in a dark slumber to keep the lantern sealed, clearing the way for Sinist3r and Surr3al to be born and run amok in his absence.

That's fair! I am curious to see what rules they abide by, considering that as Gods of Fear, naturally they should have have their own version of the Lantern.

Part of me wonders if this 'Realm of Horror' we enter could be it, considering we know the Lantern itself is a Realm from Captured.

 

[GA-MBIT]

From what I have heard myself, and at least from the performer's side of things, Universal has pretty much not thought through the implications of Sinister and Surreal at all within the larger lore of HHN. This is effectively a completely different thing to Fear, and any connection between the three entities we see in the future will basically be a retcon.

 

[Legacy]

From what I have heard myself, and at least from the performer's side of things, Universal has pretty much not thought through the implications of Sinister and Surreal at all within the larger lore of HHN. This is effectively a completely different thing to Fear, and any connection between the three entities we see in the future will basically be a retcon.

This doesn’t surprise me in the least. Universal has never really given much energy to lore. That was J. Michael Roddy’s big thing.

 

[Blysthon]

I just realized something about the twisted tradition scare-zone, a story was released back in 2020 for it. And there’s a character named Ernst who started it. Twisted Tradition (Story)
He says something about his master, The Pumpkin Lord?!”

 

[HHN Maddux]

A parallel between themes I've noticed:

Last year, Oddfellow's speeches would often be about calling us to conquer fear, not letting it control us so that we may achieve power and serve under, as he calls himself: "The most powerful being in this universe and beyond!".

This year, however, SURR3AL's speeches are telling us to EMBRACE the fear, let it fully take grasp on our minds and control us, so that we may be tormented by it forever and serve under the Duality.

Just a neat and interesting parallel I've noticed, excited to see if they do more with it in the years to come (especially with Adaru's inevitable return for HHN 40 slowly but surely getting closer).