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The Old HHN 30 Speculation Thread (2020)

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As in, you’ll purchase a BOGO and then just upgrade if they offer FFP? Would greatly appreciate any updates you get from GR, cuz I would definitely do this if allowed.
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Obviously this year may be different, but just to say we did exactly this last year
 
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consequenceofsound.net

The Invisible Man Through the Eyes of a Survivor

Leigh Whannell drags the unseen pain of abuse into the light.
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How The Invisible Man Based Its Gaslighting Thriller on Real-Life Stories of Abuse

Leigh Whannell and Elisabeth Moss on weaving the realities of domestic violence into the new adaptation
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How Men Can Help End Domestic Violence

'It’s up to us to speak up'
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I know this topic has come up here in the past so I’m hoping this will help some people understand why The Invisible Man shouldn’t be turned into a theme park attraction.
 
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Jeepers Reaper said:
Obviously this year may be different, but just to say we did exactly this last year
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Wait - last year you bought BOGO tickets before the June 5 deadline, then when FFP came out, you upgraded from BOGO to FFP with only paying the roughly $45 difference?
 
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Wait - last year you bought BOGO tickets before the June 5 deadline, then when FFP came out, you upgraded from BOGO to FFP with only paying the roughly $45 difference?
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I thought that wasn't allowed? That's why its been such a gamble in the past waiting for FFP or RoF.
 
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I thought that wasn't allowed? That's why its been such a gamble in the past waiting for FFP or RoF.
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Yeah I thought so too. But if this person actually accomplished that, it's a game-changer imo as far as having to choose whether or not to get the BOGO tix.
 
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consequenceofsound.net

The Invisible Man Through the Eyes of a Survivor

Leigh Whannell drags the unseen pain of abuse into the light.
consequenceofsound.net consequenceofsound.net

time.com

How The Invisible Man Based Its Gaslighting Thriller on Real-Life Stories of Abuse

Leigh Whannell and Elisabeth Moss on weaving the realities of domestic violence into the new adaptation
time.com time.com

time.com

How Men Can Help End Domestic Violence

'It’s up to us to speak up'
time.com time.com

I know this topic has come up here in the past so I’m hoping this will help some people understand why The Invisible Man shouldn’t be turned into a theme park attraction.
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I totally get where you're coming from. But I have a weird gut feeling that it happens this year if...you know. Ringwraith seemed to be hinting at the possibility. If they went the abstract route with it (which I would love), do you think it would be a way around the dark subject matter?

(Thank you for bringing the discussion away from tickets!)
 
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vrajewski said:
I thought that wasn't allowed? That's why its been such a gamble in the past waiting for FFP or RoF.
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If you had a one-night pass, they allowed you to upgrade to a multi-night pass. They were trying to prohibit people stringing along passes. (eg going from RoF to FFP to FFP+)

As far as FFP for this year goes - unless you're from the UK - don't bother. If FFP happens, it'll happen across the board. If they decide to ax it, it'll be axed for everyone. Just be patient.
 
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OhHaiInternet95 said:
I totally get where you're coming from. But I have a weird gut feeling that it happens this year if...you know. Ringwraith seemed to be hinting at the possibility. If they went the abstract route with it (which I would love), do you think it would be a way around the dark subject matter?
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I go back to a point I made before: if they don’t address the domestic abuse/gaslighting aspects of the story, then you’re actually ignoring the entire reason the titular antagonist exists at all.

This isn’t a situation like The Exorcist. The abstract nature of that house was intended to expand a supernatural horror. They weren’t hiding the villain or its motivation. If anything, they were allowing guests to experience more of the chaotic horror Reagan was suffering.

That isn’t something that will work for Invisible Man. They horror of that movie is that there are thousands of “Invisible Men” and thousands more of their invisible victims in the real world. Victims of domestic abuse, and perpetrators of that same abuse will attend HHN and will go through a house that is, essentially, capitalizing on that trauma without the safety of it being a passive, movie-watching experience. It will introduce a situation where abuse victims (guests) are being attacked by an antagonist that IS an abuser. There’s no sugar-coating that, no matter how abstract you attempt to make it.
 
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Legacy said:
That isn’t something that will work for Invisible Man. They horror of that movie is that there are thousands of “Invisible Men” and thousands more of their invisible victims in the real world. Victims of domestic abuse, and perpetrators of that same abuse will attend HHN and will go through a house that is, essentially, capitalizing on that trauma without the safety of it being a passive, movie-watching experience. It will introduce a situation where abuse victims (guests) are being attacked by an antagonist that IS an abuser. There’s no sugar-coating that, no matter how abstract you attempt to make it.
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Ohhhh, Invisible Man as in an invisible abuser who goes unfound. I just got that.

*Insert same argument I’ve been yelling about Invisible Man everytime it gets bought up so I don’t drive it off topic*
 
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JJ591 said:
Wait - last year you bought BOGO tickets before the June 5 deadline, then when FFP came out, you upgraded from BOGO to FFP with only paying the roughly $45 difference?
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Yup, bought the BOGO here in the UK the week they were released. We were meant to meet friends for the 2nd part of our vacation but they had to cancel last minute. So I tentatively went to the tickets desk at the RPR and asked if we could upgrade as we were now able to attend multiple nights, bingo! BUT as for this year....

Brian G. said:
If you had a one-night pass, they allowed you to upgrade to a multi-night pass. They were trying to prohibit people stringing along passes. (eg going from RoF to FFP to FFP+)

As far as FFP for this year goes - unless you're from the UK - don't bother. If FFP happens, it'll happen across the board. If they decide to ax it, it'll be axed for everyone. Just be patient.
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I go back to a point I made before: if they don’t address the domestic abuse/gaslighting aspects of the story, then you’re actually ignoring the entire reason the titular antagonist exists at all.

This isn’t a situation like The Exorcist. The abstract nature of that house was intended to expand a supernatural horror. They weren’t hiding the villain or its motivation. If anything, they were allowing guests to experience more of the chaotic horror Reagan was suffering.

That isn’t something that will work for Invisible Man. They horror of that movie is that there are thousands of “Invisible Men” and thousands more of their invisible victims in the real world. Victims of domestic abuse, and perpetrators of that same abuse will attend HHN and will go through a house that is, essentially, capitalizing on that trauma without the safety of it being a passive, movie-watching experience. It will introduce a situation where abuse victims (guests) are being attacked by an antagonist that IS an abuser. There’s no sugar-coating that, no matter how abstract you attempt to make it.
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So you don’t see IM happening? If it’s a false rumor then it’d be nice to at least kill it now. I really enjoyed the movie of course, but I see your point.
 
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OhHaiInternet95 said:
I totally get where you're coming from. But I have a weird gut feeling that it happens this year if...you know. Ringwraith seemed to be hinting at the possibility. If they went the abstract route with it (which I would love), do you think it would be a way around the dark subject matter?

(Thank you for bringing the discussion away from tickets!)
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@Legacy put it better than I can, but there really is no way to get around the topic. While I realize they are completely different things, in the vein that you wouldn’t see a Get Out house at HHN, we shouldn’t see an Invisible Man house either.

Domestic violence, with racism, homophobia, transphobia, etc. should never be taken lightly-let alone reduced to entertainment in the form of a haunted attraction.
 
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interesting...
 
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interesting...
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Fingers crossed it’s something park related, but I think we’re grasping at straws here
 
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Wouldn't get your hopes up in all honesty, but I could be wrong. From what I've read in the comments, it's just an interlude/song from her tour that just got cut short due to COVID.
 
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Wouldn't get your hopes up in all honesty, but I could be wrong. From what I've read in the comments, it's just an interlude/song from her tour that just got cut short due to COVID.
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most likely. just heard the overall spookiness of the sample and figured it'd make for good discussion, since we hadn't heard anything on the bride's front in a while
 
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It was indeed the interlude from her tour. Sorry to be a buzzkill :lol:

 
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Legacy said:
I go back to a point I made before: if they don’t address the domestic abuse/gaslighting aspects of the story, then you’re actually ignoring the entire reason the titular antagonist exists at all.

This isn’t a situation like The Exorcist. The abstract nature of that house was intended to expand a supernatural horror. They weren’t hiding the villain or its motivation. If anything, they were allowing guests to experience more of the chaotic horror Reagan was suffering.

That isn’t something that will work for Invisible Man. They horror of that movie is that there are thousands of “Invisible Men” and thousands more of their invisible victims in the real world. Victims of domestic abuse, and perpetrators of that same abuse will attend HHN and will go through a house that is, essentially, capitalizing on that trauma without the safety of it being a passive, movie-watching experience. It will introduce a situation where abuse victims (guests) are being attacked by an antagonist that IS an abuser. There’s no sugar-coating that, no matter how abstract you attempt to make it.
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Here's the thing - I think you hit the nail on the head on why an Invisible Man 2020 maze would not "work," but that doesn't mean I think they won't necessarily give it a go anyway.
 
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Here's the thing - I think you hit the nail on the head on why an Invisible Man 2020 maze would not "work," but that doesn't mean I think they won't necessarily give it a go anyway.
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If they wouldn’t do a Sabrina house (at least here) due to satanism, a Get Out house due to racism, would they really be that dense as to do a house based entirely on domestic abuse?

Especially now?

www.nytimes.com

A New Covid-19 Crisis: Domestic Abuse Rises Worldwide (Published 2020)

Movement restrictions aimed to stop the spread of the coronavirus may be making violence in homes more frequent, more severe and more dangerous.
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