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Alright, I don't know if I can wait until EU for SNW here. I WANT IT IN KIDZONE lol :'(
Universal will really need to open up something new, besides V coaster, to remain in step with WDW , since Disney has those big E tickets in the pipeline, plus what Disney opened in the past year. Universal is actually on a nice roll, in lieu of covid attendance restrictions. They've been doing better than WDW, partly because they are still giving as much value to their customers as they can (price deals and covid adjusted entertainment) under the circumstances, unlike Disney which is making it hard to visit and cutting everything but rides, while charging the same. Perception is important, so Universal really needs to make it look like they're moving forward, not sitting still. Build it and they will come......CNBC had a good perceptive comment concerning tourism and entertainment last week. They said that when this vaccine fully mitigates the virus, there's going to be a boom like alcohol had the day Prohibition ended.
I know this is Universal we are talking about, but even if they started construction today, I don't see a world where SNW in KidZone could be ready before 2023. I Think we are going to have to live with 2022 (and maybe even 2023) being a gap year for UOR.Universal has to be closely watching the reaction to the Nintendo World announcement this morning.
I don't want Nintendo going into USF but if EU is getting delayed longer than expected, Universal could easily build SNW into Kidzone to compete with Guardians if it has been delayed into 2022.
I know this is Universal we are talking about, but even if they started construction today, I don't see a world where SNW in KidZone could be ready before 2023. I Think we are going to have to live with 2022 (and maybe even 2023) being a gap year for UOR.
There are other things they can do with KidZone if they wanted to. I still think SNW is too important to EU’s success for them to take it out of those plans.
Side note: “Mario Kart: Bowser’s Challenge” is a great name for the ride. One of their best.
Which honestly, should be fine. Compared to where we were a decade ago s lot of investment was made, whether it’s things we liked or not. Both parks are pretty “full” for the most part at the moment especially after VC and Bourne being added so to me, good time to take a break.I know this is Universal we are talking about, but even if they started construction today, I don't see a world where SNW in KidZone could be ready before 2023. I Think we are going to have to live with 2022 (and maybe even 2023) being a gap year for UOR.
Oof I disagree. KidZone, Lost Continent, Toon Lagoon Theater area, and FFL are glaring dead zones in both parks.Both parks are pretty “full” for the most part at the moment especially after VC and Bourne being added so to me, good time to take a break.
I don't know the Super Nintendo World all that well but people have talked about Hyrule and I am sure that there are other components that could be utilized without taking away what will go into Epic Universe. They could make KidZone into Classic Nintendo and bring out rides for older games (ex. Star Fox, Punch Out (as a shooter type game trying to knock an opposing vehicle out), and Final Fantasy) and put Hyrule into Lost Continent. Super Nintendo has a large catalog to pick from. Beyond that, they could easily dig into their kid movies.
Yes, you are.I was never a big Pokémon or Zelda fan, so maybe I’m missing something there.
Oof I disagree. KidZone, Lost Continent, Toon Lagoon Theater area, and FFL are glaring dead zones in both parks.
I had no issue with it when it was being fast tracked along to open ASAP. Now that it's in limbo, it becomes clearer and clearer a lot of the lands in it were meant for elsewhere in the resort, and the longer the park is delayed the bigger the drag on the existing parks it will be. I know it *wont* happen, but I'd prefer them just to move the concepts back to USF/IOA, and start from scratch on a park that doesn't feel like it's made of cast off projects meant for elsewhere.Which has been my main issue with EU, as incredible as it looked/looks, from the get go.
Well I guess true now that LC is truly only Mythos and FFL isn’t running. They don’t need to be running right now the way the parks are operating however, so those places aren’t going to be moving or changing anytime soon (unless they’re the first site for the first new project post Covid) so from a UC standpoint yes, the parks are relatively full. KZ is what it is and should be replaced but from a pure operational standpoint it is an open area that is not a glaringly vacant expansion plot, they’re literally built out with things taking up those spaces. If they had open space I’m sure UC some ideas would more easily be shifted to the current parks.I
Oof I disagree. KidZone, Lost Continent, Toon Lagoon Theater area, and FFL are glaring dead zones in both parks.
As incredible as Epic looks I completely agree with you the dead zones are extremely obvious. Depending on how long of a delay for Epic we are looking it could be best just to build Nintendo already. Personally I’d put it in lost continent since there’s absolutely nothing there anymore and who knows if posideon is going to return anytime soon. By the time epic opens they could do a second Nintendo land kinda like they did with diagon alley. Personally I’d love to see the Monsters land replace Fear factor live area and find a different themed land for epic. I feel like monsters fits US way more then it will epicI
Oof I disagree. KidZone, Lost Continent, Toon Lagoon Theater area, and FFL are glaring dead zones in both parks.
2022 is only 13 months away and its summer season is only 18 months away. There’s just not really time to do anything big.
There‘s also a lot that goes into figuring out where you invest. Over the last 4-5 years a preferred pass renewal went from $170 to over $300 after tax. That works when you’re adding things every year and demand is high; it doesn’t when people can skip two years and just wait to go on one coaster. Is a preferred pass to the two current parks worth $300 now? To me, no. So there’s an opportunity to make the existing parks more valuable.
They need for people to be willing to pony up even more for an annual pass and for international tourism to return for EU or anything there to work.
Yeah. 2023 is a more doable timeframe. V coaster & Bourne, for many, will be sufficient new stuff for bulk of 2021 and 2022. 2023 though, will really need something new.They can go a year without adding anything (even in recent memory they have--2015).
I don't see anything for 2022. Maybe a new restaurant in Citywalk? Otherwise they just push everything they've added in the last five years. Kong, Fallon, Hagrid, Bourne, and the Velocicoaster. Then maybe Pets for a 2023 USF addition and Jurassic World as a 2024 Islands addition. Then Nintendo in Kidzone sometime after and EU within the decade. That gets you some additions in the form of clones, Nintendo, and EU. Doesn't seem like much, but if you distributed all the rides from EU across the two existing parks, it's quite a significant attraction increase.2022 would be a good year to finally expand VB, or add a new parade to USF which is desperately needed