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Wolf Man (2025)

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Last Voyage of the Demeter had a great script and Abigail was pretty fun. There is, unfortunately, no magic "make this movie succeed" button, as much as we'd like there to be.

Look at this from the perspective of a studio for a second. Out of Universal's last four monster movies, only the one released by Blumhouse was a huge hit with both audiences and critics. If you go off of that, hiring Blumhouse for another would be the smartest move.
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Short term yes

But even if people like the new Invisible man film, there isn't much merch or like ways to really do more with these films. They come out people say they like them....but I've never met anyone who is like really into Blumhouses Invisibleman...and they don't even include it in houses because its just not made in a way that high lights the character in a way that can be as easily translated to the parks

I will say this new film, I could see it working because it reminds me of Evil Dead and they made a house for it...but if the designs from HHN are anything to go off...I doubt anyone is buying merch for that film...lol

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I just think it's worth flagging up that it's very hard to write a good script for a television commercial, let alone a feature length movie. That's not to say bad scripting shouldn't be criticized (it should!) but there are times when even a good effort leads to a poor result.

I'd also add the pretty terrible Mario Bros. movie as an example of poor scripting that most fans aren't all that concerned about.
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I agree its not easy but to me the last attempts just didn't really feels like things I needed to see

I also dislike that Illunation can just get away with it everytime but it is what is, I mean they should be kinda embarrassed Sonic is making better films then them but they are making more money so I bet they don't care
 
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Jerroddragon said:
Short term yes

But even if people like the new Invisible man film, there isn't much merch or like ways to really do more with these films. They come out people say they like them....but I've never met anyone who is like really into Blumhouses Invisibleman...and they don't even include it in houses because its just not made in a way that high lights the character in a way that can be as easily translated to the parks

I will say this new film, I could see it working because it reminds me of Evil Dead and they made a house for it...but if the designs from HHN are anything to go off...I doubt anyone is buying merch for that film...lol
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I mean... different strokes, but why does merch matter if it's a good movie? They don't make merch of Don't Look Now either.
 
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I'll take the opposite view. Universal released three Dracula movies over the last couple years, and all three of them were basically faithful to varying degrees (they also all flopped, but oh well). There clearly isn't a mandate for more faithful/less faithful versions, they're just letting people do their own spin. It's night and day and a huge breath of fresh air compared to other major franchise rightsholders.
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to be fair if the story for this movie is really really good, it doesn't matter what he looks like.

its not a cope out either. if the story is great, interesting and scary, then it's ok if he looks like a shaved yeti
 
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I mean... different strokes, but why does merch matter if it's a good movie? They don't make merch of Don't Look Now either.
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My point of View is I like when Films are both great and have a legacy that not only is good for merch but future HHN. The Classic Monsters get houses most years because people love them so much, if the new films come out people are like that was good but never watch it or really think about it again then to me its some what a waste.

Like I hope the new wolfman looks cool but...the HHN costume is just a joke....so I also want films where the characters design is apart of the conversation.

Anyway, I hope its good I really do I'm just not a big fan of these bringing the monster to modern day take...they just lose a lot of character. For me werewolf By Night is what I want from universal. Great Monster designs, great setting, great music, good story, filmed well with a style that reflects the tones of the film, good acting and the none monster characters also had unique character designs and costumes.
 
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I just want the movie to be good, man. until I become a studio executive, I'm probably not gonna be too fussed about all the other revenue streams a successful movie can generate.
 
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Anyway, I hope its good I really do I'm just not a big fan of these bringing the monster to modern day take...they just lose a lot of character. For me werewolf By Night is what I want from universal. Great Monster designs, great setting, great music, good story, filmed well with a style that reflects the tones of the film, good acting and the none monster characters also had unique character designs and costumes.
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Sure, and I think it's fair to want a more classic wolfman somewhere. I think it's worth noting though that Universal has done three Dracula movies in the past two years, and is about to release a fourth (Nosferatu) and potentially a fifth if the Chloe Zhao one happens.

This isn't Star Wars, and it shouldn't be Star Wars. Two people can have radically different takes on the same character. That's what's cool about what Universal's doing. One person's interpretation doesn't preclude another's.
 
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if I had to get down to specifics, I don't like how the hair was placed on the mask. the mask itself ( the mold) cannot define or describe the real make up or prosthetics, the movie will probably have specific prosthetic make up and molding to the actors face
but the long white hair and the bald head looks not good. the long whiskers, mustache stuff, it's funny. the hair alone is what makes the hhn look so funny.
 
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The bar for whether or not a horror film is good is if it can generate cool merch and have potential as a HHN house?

I get it because there's things I love that aren't sophisticated or deep or nuanced at all and I would literally give an arm or leg for a new film that is JUST Jason Voorhees stomping around the woods killing teenagers but I do think the real value in the classic monsters is moreso in utilizing them as backdrops for deeper stories. The classic stories and adaptations will always be there, it's just time to innovate with these monsters.
 
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Looks pretty good.
 
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The HHN Wolfman looks off kilter and not what I would expect for a "Wolfman."
 
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man that look is "rough" from the new promo. I don't understand why they bothered rebooting this one again, especially in the wake of how good they got with things on the subject of the 2010 Wolfman in it's design.

That was a modern translation of what makes Universal's Wolfman iconic; and to see them skimp away from that feels really weak when considering how good they handled the technological shift to Invisible Man.
 
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I don't understand why they bothered rebooting this one again,
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I really wish it wasn’t for that. I expect it to be that, but god that makes it feel like a bland fart even more.

Hope the film itself proves me wrong! But genuinely have no confidence.
 
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On the other hand, this wasn't an expensive movie. I think an original werewolf movie from the same team, at the same price, would make basically the same as the one called WOLF MAN.

All calling it WOLF MAN does is set expectations from genre fans at a level the movie appears (thus far, anyway) uninterested in satisfying.
 
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man that look is "rough" from the new promo. I don't understand why they bothered rebooting this one again, especially in the wake of how good they got with things on the subject of the 2010 Wolfman in it's design.

That was a modern translation of what makes Universal's Wolfman iconic; and to see them skimp away from that feels really weak when considering how good they handled the technological shift to Invisible Man.
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When it comes to rebooting, keep in mind they were planning to reboot the Wolf Man for the cancelled Dark Universe project. The main reason this reboot happened was the Invisible Man reboot (and its success) rekindling the interest for the Universal Monster movies.

But yeah, anything that we've seen of this design is just a NO for me. I truly would've preferred they called this film anything other than the Wolf Man, because that title brings an expectation for its titular monster. And a monster which doesn't look like a wolf man isn't a bold original direction, it's simply missing the assignment.

It's a shame since the report from a test screening was quite positive of the overall film, but at the same time the one thing everyone in the theater disliked was the wolf man itself.

*Also as an aside for the thread, I don't think Wolf Man is an "Untitled Wolfman Film" anymore.
 
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Oh my god guys they'll make other wolfman movies. They just made three dracula movies, and they're about to make a Nosferatu on top of that. There's two Frankenstein movies coming out next year. Like, it's fine.

If you don't like this one, you can just watch the next one.
 
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Oh my god guys they'll make other wolfman movies. They just made three dracula movies, and they're about to make a Nosferatu on top of that. There's two Frankenstein movies coming out next year. Like, it's fine.

If you don't like this one, you can just watch the next one.
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The Wolf Man is a specific Universal character, though.

Obviously there will be more werewolf movies, but after the 2010 movie bombed, I doubt we'll be getting another WOLF MAN reboot anytime soon if this one tanks.
 
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The Wolf Man is a specific Universal character, though.

Obviously there will be more werewolf movies, but after the 2010 movie bombed, I doubt we'll be getting another WOLF MAN reboot anytime soon if this one tanks.
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Universal literally just made three Dracula movies despite each one flopping.
 
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I think a problem Universal has in general with trying to do these monsters movies is the characters are pretty much all open domain and have been done over and over again in movies and other forms of media throughout the years.

Universal has yet to crack the code on a Monsters movie or universe that can truly stand out to call their own.
 
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