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Yeah I've noticed that the posted wait times are way off this year too. Definitely off way more often than they were during HHN31 and HHN30.This year has featured some of the most wildly incorrect and inconsistent posted wait times that I've ever experienced at HHN.
My favorite example:
I was with a friend who's only able to attend one night this year and did not have Express. They really wanted to see Oddfellow's house, but the posted wait was 60+ much of the night. At one point, I stood across from the entrance for a good 10 minutes watching almost zero people enter the Standby line while the posted time was (and remained) 75. Finally decided to bite the bullet for my friend and agreed to enter the queue... We were back in the park in less than 20 minutes. Obviously, I'd rather this occur than the alternative -- BUT this really hampers any type of time-management planning for guests when you can't even have a get a close estimate of the amount of time you'll be spending in the lines.
Anyway, I don't know if Operations is trying to control crowd flow with this tactic, or if they are just flat out doing an extremely poor job. Either way, I'm not a fan.
Same with last Wednesday, 3 houses down for the night and both Bloodmoon and Monsters had 60 minutes posted while being walk ons, 20 minutes later after walking out both are still posted at 45 with the only actual line for the house being the express queue. It’s a great surprise not having to wait for a house, but these waits are way too inconsistentThis year has featured some of the most wildly incorrect and inconsistent posted wait times that I've ever experienced at HHN.
My favorite example:
I was with a friend who's only able to attend one night this year and did not have Express. They really wanted to see Oddfellow's house, but the posted wait was 60+ much of the night. At one point, I stood across from the entrance for a good 10 minutes watching almost zero people enter the Standby line while the posted time was (and remained) 75. Finally decided to bite the bullet for my friend and agreed to enter the queue... We were back in the park in less than 20 minutes. Obviously, I'd rather this occur than the alternative -- BUT this really hampers any type of time-management planning for guests when you can't even have a get a close estimate of the amount of time you'll be spending in the lines.
Anyway, I don't know if Operations is trying to control crowd flow with this tactic, or if they are just flat out doing an extremely poor job. Either way, I'm not a fan.
Don’t know if it’s the proper place, but Christian Stokes (Hank in FNAF) got a special VIP, with apparently them having FNAF stuff behind closed doors in Orlando!
Good lord, if people are complaining about teens going because Stranger Things imagine the 4th graders flooding cuz FNAFMaybe they are adding a display to horror makeup? I would think it would be way too early for them to have any props if they were to have a house next year.
The reason why I pause, is if that was the case; wouldn’t they have already debuted that? Considering Behind The Screams at Hollywood has the animatronics out in full public view, I’d think that would’ve been noted already from VIP tours as it is, or would’ve already of debuted back on the first.Maybe they are adding a display to horror makeup? I would think it would be way too early for them to have any props if they were to have a house next year.
I could definitely see FNaF being an early Halloween announcement ala Chucky last year.The reason why I pause, is if that was the case; wouldn’t they have already debuted that? Considering Behind The Screams at Hollywood has the animatronics out in full public view, I’d think that would’ve been noted already from VIP tours as it is, or would’ve already of debuted back on the first.
Not doubting, but maybe it’s possible they are using them for a shoot?
Express was no longer than 20 minutes for everything last nightEven with express tonight:View attachment 19820
Putting aside the RoF/FF debate (I'm sure you're correct, RoF fans are criticizing FF, FF users are criticizing RoF--everyone wants everyone else to pay more without paying more themselves): even if a FF or FFP holder only goes half the nights--and most go a lot more--each 8-hour night is still cheaper than a 2-hour PLF movie in CityWalk. That is not sustainable. That is not sane.I agree that a pass good for a week would be a good thing. I still do not get that FF/FFP is less of a problem than RoF. Maybe only a week pass or get rid of RoF but only have FF/FFP in September.
It is interesting to me that cost comes up (somewhat flawed since FRI and SAT tend to cost more, I imagine SAT is the one thing that RoF includes that FFP does not. Anyway, my math suggest that RoF is the most expressive of the multi-night passes (w/o Express):
RoF includes 18 nights for $179.99 or around $10 a night if all nights used
FF can access 30 nights for $229.99 or roughly $7.66 per night
FFP has 40 nights for $269.99 or $6.75 per night
Ultimate goes up a bit (but I believe this one includes parking) which is a big bonus, but 48 nights for $399.99 would be $8.33 per night
I doubt many people use all nights of a pass, I assume the Ultimate folks would use more than others, but I have no clue, I just assume folks that use FF/FFP tend to single out RoF as the issue. FWIW, I feel that the 'sold out' nights have felt less crowded than what I felt the weekend prior
Yeah I've noticed that the posted wait times are way off this year too. Definitely off way more often than they were during HHN31 and HHN30.
Guests were taking about it in line and they speculated one reason was to push the express sales in the park the night of the event.It's a widespread tactic. WDW does it always. Touring Plans monitors it every week and the average 'real time' in line is generally between 60 to 65% of the posted times.