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Fast & Furious Attraction?

  • Thread starter Thread starter OrlandoParks
  • Start date Start date Sep 8, 2013

Will there be a Fast and Furious ride at UOR?

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    Votes: 35 46.1%

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anihilnation

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Turning San Fran into LA makes little sense to me when we already have a Hollywood section in the park. Aren't they basically the same? I think a tranformation of San Fran into somewhere like Tokyo would be far more exciting than yet again more LA theming (lets not forget the LA themed Gardens of Allah, La bamba cafe, etc)
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I agree, and especially now that we have London, I think it would be nice to have more world cities, Tokyo, Paris, Berlin ...
 
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A kickass indoor coaster is always a happy thing for me...though leveling San Fran to build it would put 3 indoor coasters next to each other in a row (Mummy, F&F, Gringotts--which is more dark ride than coaster, but it's still a coaster). Plus you've got Rockit running up the street and turning around by Mummy. Seems like coaster overload to me. The Cantilevered Coaster concept has always been one that I wish someone would build...looks really cool!
 
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If there were a Fast & Furious ride (which there won't be) it would have to be similar to Test Track-On steroids. Also, why do we think there's a 2015 attraction coming to USF? I want to see a new attraction, but I see no construction nor announcement made by Uni.
 
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If there were a Fast & Furious ride (which there won't be) it would have to be similar to Test Track-On steroids. Also, why do we think there's a 2015 attraction coming to USF? I want to see a new attraction, but I see no construction nor announcement made by Uni.
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Do you like the taste of crow?
 
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Do you like the taste of crow?
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Touche! Lol
 
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Do you like the taste of crow?
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I'm more familiar with the dirt in Avatar Land than I am the taste of crow. Do you have evidence of a F&F attraction?
 
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I'm more familiar with the dirt in Avatar Land than I am the taste of crow. Do you have evidence of a F&F attraction?
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To answer your question...it has been speculated by many that I trust here...so I would say that I have some evidence..if you know more please do share..I find your "which there won't be" comment a bit bold, however..I'm not a fan of 'never ever' comments. Seeing as how Transformers fit in the spot it was never ever supposed to fit into and HE fit into the backstage area it was never ever supposed to..and Kong is coming into a spot that could never ever hold a ride and Universal is preparing to open a new Hotel which will never ever happen..

and please don't eat dirt...even if it's Avatar dirt..
 
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If I was active on this site during the speculation of the attractions stated above (exception to Kong) I would be saying the opposite of what I'm saying about Fast & Furious. I believe there are trustworthy sources here, it just seems like an unlikely time frame to open an attraction of this scale in by Summer 2015. (Transformers is a totally different story)
 
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If I was active on this site during the speculation of the attractions stated above (exception to Kong) I would be saying the opposite of what I'm saying about Fast & Furious. I believe there are trustworthy sources here, it just seems like an unlikely time frame to open an attraction of this scale in by Summer 2015. (Transformers is a totally different story)
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I'm not certant anyone has speculated that F&F was coming in 2015. If I have been following the speculation correctly, I think there was talk of something Related to New York's 30 Rock address replacing Twister ( though it sounds like this idea keeps changing ).

I think the F&F talk started from talk that something may replace the Disaster and Beatle Juice area. I'm not sure anyone said it would be F&F but I think speculation just went that way. Of course I could be way off base, but I do not think this was expected to happen in 2015.
 
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Fast and Furious is a no brainer at this point! With another major film coming in 2015 and up to 3 more Installments after that it's one of Universals hottest properties with upcoming relevance and future sustainability. Then you've got the fact they're currently installing F&F at Hollywood currently, which I'm sure we will see a lot of cross promotion of the new ride and movie together.

The entire project would just scream Comcast buisiness model for the parks Imo. With that being said I'd be willing to bet we see Fast and Furious in Orlando within 2-4 years but not 2015. Once we see how the new ride is executed and how the story of new film plays out we can speculate possible locations. I personally have my own thoughts on what I'd love to see and where but that's irrelevant at the moment. Again though this is all just my opinion and contains no insight. It's just fun to speculate and dream of what could happen is all.
 
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The thing about Fast and Furious is that it's not like it was all of a sudden this huge hit. It's been Universal's biggest film series for a while now, AND it lends itself perfectly to a theme park ride. So why is it that they're just now pulling the trigger on these rides, and they're starting with a modest portion of Hollywood's tram ride (which already had a sub-par exhibit anyway)? Why did they go ahead with Transformers, Kong, Despicable Me, etc. all before JUST NOW deciding that Fast and Furious is a viable film property (and who knows what the effect Paul Walker's death will have on the success of the later sequels)? Something seems fishy…to me, it WOULD be a no-brainer, but the perceived hesitation in doing anything besides small little displays makes me think there's some sort of obstacle in building a Fast and Furious ride, whether it be space, the cost of doing it right, or some other weird political issue. Hopefully whatever was stopping them from capitalizing on it earlier is not an issue anymore, or I'm 100% wrong.
 
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The thing about Fast and Furious is that it's not like it was all of a sudden this huge hit. It's been Universal's biggest film series for a while now, AND it lends itself perfectly to a theme park ride. So why is it that they're just now pulling the trigger on these rides, and they're starting with a modest portion of Hollywood's tram ride (which already had a sub-par exhibit anyway)? Why did they go ahead with Transformers, Kong, Despicable Me, etc. all before JUST NOW deciding that Fast and Furious is a viable film property (and who knows what the effect Paul Walker's death will have on the success of the later sequels)? Something seems fishy…to me, it WOULD be a no-brainer, but the perceived hesitation in doing anything besides small little displays makes me think there's some sort of obstacle in building a Fast and Furious ride, whether it be space, the cost of doing it right, or some other weird political issue. Hopefully whatever was stopping them from capitalizing on it earlier is not an issue anymore, or I'm 100% wrong.
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Let's be clear, though - Fast and Furious was a languishing franchise before Fast Five (and to a lesser extent "The Fast and Furious," i.e. the 4th one). Diesel returning to the franchise gave it new life and made it the unstoppable power house it is right now.

It's also really not an easily translatable theme park property at all - the only ride options are some sort of roller coaster (probably indoors, ala Rock'n'Roller Coaster?) or a Test Track-like experience, which Universal has never attempted. In both systems, you face the same problem: how do you actually convey the tone, characters and world of the property? Universal has never really successfully pulled off realistic human animatronics, so physical environments seem like a no go. The advent and ease of development of the 3D motion ride (Kong 360/Transformers on) gave them a new option that allows them to fairly cheaply incorporate all of the high speed, over the top action AND the film actors (The Rock, Diesel, etc.) That's why we're getting Supercharged now. My bet is they're still trying to R&D a way to expand Supercharged into a standalone experience for the Florida parks -- it isn't nearly as easy as KONG, which can be a slow moving ride if necessary. Fast and Furious has to be, well, fast.
 
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Let's be clear, though - Fast and Furious was a languishing franchise before Fast Five (and to a lesser extent "The Fast and Furious," i.e. the 4th one). Diesel returning to the franchise gave it new life and made it the unstoppable power house it is right now.

It's also really not an easily translatable theme park property at all - the only ride options are some sort of roller coaster (probably indoors, ala Rock'n'Roller Coaster?) or a Test Track-like experience, which Universal has never attempted. In both systems, you face the same problem: how do you actually convey the tone, characters and world of the property? Universal has never really successfully pulled off realistic human animatronics, so physical environments seem like a no go. The advent and ease of development of the 3D motion ride (Kong 360/Transformers on) gave them a new option that allows them to fairly cheaply incorporate all of the high speed, over the top action AND the film actors (The Rock, Diesel, etc.) That's why we're getting Supercharged now. My bet is they're still trying to R&D a way to expand Supercharged into a standalone experience for the Florida parks -- it isn't nearly as easy as KONG, which can be a slow moving ride if necessary. Fast and Furious has to be, well, fast.
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Well said, agree 100%
 
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Let's be clear, though - Fast and Furious was a languishing franchise before Fast Five (and to a lesser extent "The Fast and Furious," i.e. the 4th one). Diesel returning to the franchise gave it new life and made it the unstoppable power house it is right now.

It's also really not an easily translatable theme park property at all - the only ride options are some sort of roller coaster (probably indoors, ala Rock'n'Roller Coaster?) or a Test Track-like experience, which Universal has never attempted. In both systems, you face the same problem: how do you actually convey the tone, characters and world of the property? Universal has never really successfully pulled off realistic human animatronics, so physical environments seem like a no go. The advent and ease of development of the 3D motion ride (Kong 360/Transformers on) gave them a new option that allows them to fairly cheaply incorporate all of the high speed, over the top action AND the film actors (The Rock, Diesel, etc.) That's why we're getting Supercharged now. My bet is they're still trying to R&D a way to expand Supercharged into a standalone experience for the Florida parks -- it isn't nearly as easy as KONG, which can be a slow moving ride if necessary. Fast and Furious has to be, well, fast.
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Yeah and that's sad. I really don't understand why anyone would think UNI would make a ride like TT with realistic AAs and set scenes, they don't seem to have any desire to do anything like that. They seem much more interested in screens, and I would guarantee any F&F ride would be a simulator. I thought Gringotts would fit the description everyone is giving out for a hypothetical F&F ride... That's what a lot of us assumed EFG was going to be, and I kind of set my self up for disappointment there... Until I see a ride with AAs and Real sets, I won't expect anything outside more screens.
 
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Let's be clear, though - Fast and Furious was a languishing franchise before Fast Five (and to a lesser extent "The Fast and Furious," i.e. the 4th one). Diesel returning to the franchise gave it new life and made it the unstoppable power house it is right now.

It's also really not an easily translatable theme park property at all - the only ride options are some sort of roller coaster (probably indoors, ala Rock'n'Roller Coaster?) or a Test Track-like experience, which Universal has never attempted. In both systems, you face the same problem: how do you actually convey the tone, characters and world of the property? Universal has never really successfully pulled off realistic human animatronics, so physical environments seem like a no go. The advent and ease of development of the 3D motion ride (Kong 360/Transformers on) gave them a new option that allows them to fairly cheaply incorporate all of the high speed, over the top action AND the film actors (The Rock, Diesel, etc.) That's why we're getting Supercharged now. My bet is they're still trying to R&D a way to expand Supercharged into a standalone experience for the Florida parks -- it isn't nearly as easy as KONG, which can be a slow moving ride if necessary. Fast and Furious has to be, well, fast.
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Yeah, those are good points, which is why I threw out the possibility that one of the obstacles was the inability to do the property justice. But what has changed between the release of Fast and Furious (4) and now that makes it possible all of a sudden? You bring up a great point about not being able to convey the proper tone (because, yeah, it is a grittier movie than say Transformers) but why would that all of a sudden not be an issue? Why would portraying human characters all of a sudden be easier? The Spider-Man/Transformers technology has existed since the release of the first Fast and Furious film. I mean, what new developments have come to Universal since then that would make a Fast and Furious ride possible all of a sudden? That's why I'm skeptical. The property and technology have been sitting around for a while now--why is it that the speculation is just now starting?

If the ride ends up being an extended version of the Hollywood attraction then I think that will be disappointing. But who knows, if it's a huge success over there I'd be welcome to having it here to experience it for myself. The timing is just…odd to me.
 
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Yeah, those are good points, which is why I threw out the possibility that one of the obstacles was the inability to do the property justice. But what has changed between the release of Fast and Furious (4) and now that makes it possible all of a sudden? You bring up a great point about not being able to convey the proper tone (because, yeah, it is a grittier movie than say Transformers) but why would that all of a sudden not be an issue? Why would portraying human characters all of a sudden be easier? The Spider-Man/Transformers technology has existed since the release of the first Fast and Furious film. I mean, what new developments have come to Universal since then that would make a Fast and Furious ride possible all of a sudden? That's why I'm skeptical. The property and technology have been sitting around for a while now--why is it that the speculation is just now starting?

If the ride ends up being an extended version of the Hollywood attraction then I think that will be disappointing. But who knows, if it's a huge success over there I'd be welcome to having it here to experience it for myself. The timing is just…odd to me.
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Well switching the parent company to one who is willing to invest what it takes to make it a good attraction is one thing that comes to mind. IMO FF would not fit the constraints of all but one of the newer additions, that leaves Potter which is too big for anything but Potter at this point. But I don't see another variation of Spiderman to be a good fit for what people would want from a FF ride.
 
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Let's be clear, though - Fast and Furious was a languishing franchise before Fast Five (and to a lesser extent "The Fast and Furious," i.e. the 4th one). Diesel returning to the franchise gave it new life and made it the unstoppable power house it is right now.

It's also really not an easily translatable theme park property at all - the only ride options are some sort of roller coaster (probably indoors, ala Rock'n'Roller Coaster?) or a Test Track-like experience, which Universal has never attempted. In both systems, you face the same problem: how do you actually convey the tone, characters and world of the property? Universal has never really successfully pulled off realistic human animatronics, so physical environments seem like a no go. The advent and ease of development of the 3D motion ride (Kong 360/Transformers on) gave them a new option that allows them to fairly cheaply incorporate all of the high speed, over the top action AND the film actors (The Rock, Diesel, etc.) That's why we're getting Supercharged now. My bet is they're still trying to R&D a way to expand Supercharged into a standalone experience for the Florida parks -- it isn't nearly as easy as KONG, which can be a slow moving ride if necessary. Fast and Furious has to be, well, fast.
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Great points. I also think we will see this franchise come to UOR within the next 5 years too but in what form, I have no idea. Hopefully something fast...and, er, FURIOUS! :drool:
 
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Let's be clear, though - Fast and Furious was a languishing franchise before Fast Five (and to a lesser extent "The Fast and Furious," i.e. the 4th one). Diesel returning to the franchise gave it new life and made it the unstoppable power house it is right now.

It's also really not an easily translatable theme park property at all - the only ride options are some sort of roller coaster (probably indoors, ala Rock'n'Roller Coaster?) or a Test Track-like experience, which Universal has never attempted. In both systems, you face the same problem: how do you actually convey the tone, characters and world of the property? Universal has never really successfully pulled off realistic human animatronics, so physical environments seem like a no go. The advent and ease of development of the 3D motion ride (Kong 360/Transformers on) gave them a new option that allows them to fairly cheaply incorporate all of the high speed, over the top action AND the film actors (The Rock, Diesel, etc.) That's why we're getting Supercharged now. My bet is they're still trying to R&D a way to expand Supercharged into a standalone experience for the Florida parks -- it isn't nearly as easy as KONG, which can be a slow moving ride if necessary. Fast and Furious has to be, well, fast.
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These are all really good observations. I would be willing to bet that we will have a F&F attraction within the next 3-5 years. With Diesel's return after Tokyo drift, the franchise as a whole has continued to grow in popularity and profitability.

I will say that many people brought up the fact that TF was not an easily translatable property when it was announced to be going to Singapore for the same reasons you're outlining F&F to be. This property could be the next great thing that hits the UO resort.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but could a TT like system not be an option for this franchise? Isn't the vast majority of the current version of TT screen based?
 
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Correct me if I'm wrong, but could a TT like system not be an option for this franchise? Isn't the vast majority of the current version of TT screen based?
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Is the majority of Test Track screen based? No. It's in the dark with a lot of neon/LED lights and a peppers ghost effect in a mirror. And I don't see UNI making a TT type ride. And any F&F attraction will most likely be a simulator. I think EFG was the better candidate for a TT type ride, tbh.
 
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Is the majority of Test Track screen based? No. It's in the dark with a lot of neon/LED lights and a peppers ghost effect in a mirror. And I don't see UNI making a TT type ride. And any F&F attraction will most likely be a simulator. I think EFG was the better candidate for a TT type ride, tbh.
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While I don't see them making a Test Track clone (as it has been done and that is not Universal's thing) I can see them making an attraction that involves practicals (sets and real life) with screens...I still love the idea of a sports car attached to a Kuka arm that we ride in
 
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