Rideguy70
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I'm telling you guys, agree with me or not, they're not going to budge on letting the parks open until the election is over, especially if their ideal candidate wins. The virus is being used politically.
Hmm.. California with it’s overly strict tier system vs Florida where we get our marching orders via tweet.
Unless the Governor says its legal...all of this is uselessthis is big right?
I mean I think meeting in the middle is what people wantPeople keep dragging the slow open in LA without really considering the impacts of an opening a county with a higher population than 40 states, and a population density second only to NYC.
An outbreak the scale of NYC there would be catastrophic.
To your first question, winery’s aren’t theme parks. They’re beverage production facilities with restaurants (both entities authorized to open) with walk through tours similar to a museum (also authorized to open).Unless the Governor says its legal...all of this is useless
Its like how Trump ignores guidelines from health officials
I mean I think meeting in the middle is what people want
Why can some things like Winery's open but not Theme parks? Why can theme parks open but not the rides? It seems political because from what I read cases aren't going up because of WDW being open but from party's, clubs and people not wearing masks.
If Disney forces you to mask up, they should be able to open. It's to me simple, that or give people money that are losing everything...ok you can't do that its Federal then let them open up and make money again. We can somehow pay off people getting sick but we can't pay people to stay home...so sadly we have to let adults decide if they want to risk getting sick or not.
“We feel there’s no hurry to put out guidelines and we continue to work with the industry,” -Gavin Newsom.California Gov. Gavin Newsom Says Disneyland & Other Parks Not Opening Soon As He Reveals Disagreement With Disney Chief Bob Iger
The governor said the state will be guided by science and revealed that Disney chief Bob Iger resigned from state council over disagreement.deadline.com
The issue with relying on Orlando’s theme park numbers is, without effective contact tracing, we won’t know exactly what’s going on at the parks.
People keep dragging the slow open in LA without really considering the impacts of an opening a county with a higher population than 40 states, and a population density second only to NYC.
An outbreak the scale of NYC there would be catastrophic.
Its laughable to call a Winery essential more than theme parks. As if you have to go there to get food like a grocery store to survive.To your first question, winery’s aren’t theme parks. They’re beverage production facilities with restaurants (both entities authorized to open) with walk through tours similar to a museum (also authorized to open).
Theme parks can open their retail and food locations because retail and food is authorized state-wide. Retail and food nudge into “essential” activities. Going on a roller coaster is not.
The issue with relying on Orlando’s theme park numbers is, without effective contact tracing, we won’t know exactly what’s going on at the parks. There are anecdotal reports of employees at WDW and Universal getting infected. The parks are not legally required to disclose this, so they’re not disclosing it.
LA is not Central FL. SoCal infection will spread significantly faster than Orlando. Fans really need to stop comparing the two.
I mean, I never said they were essential. I said they make beverages, serve as restaurants, and do museum type tours which are all authorized by the state. But, since you want to put words in my mouth, wineries are in the same category as breweries and distilleries. They’re manufacturing a consumable product. They are categorically far more “essential” than a theme park.Its laughable to call a Winery essential more than theme parks. As if you have to go there to get food like a grocery store to survive.
It's not just about roller coasters it about the hotels, restaurants, stores and people who need the theme park open to make a living.
No one is saying open 100% start at 25% and go from there but with the new quote saying they wont open anytime soon the governor just damned tens if not hundred of thousands of peoples jobs and lively hoods. The amount of back end bad news this is going to cause in years to come is all on him, but clearly doesn't see it as a priority.
While i agree Disney and Universal should be doing food events, why are rides so taboo?If your wearing a mask on Big Thunder your not going to get sickI mean, I never said they were essential. I said they make beverages, serve as restaurants, and do museum type tours which are all authorized by the state. But, since you want to put words in my mouth, wineries are in the same category as breweries and distilleries. They’re manufacturing a consumable product. They are categorically far more “essential” than a theme park.
And they CAN open the retail and restaurants. Hotels are authorized to open. That’s how Knott’s opened. That’s how CityWalk is opened. The option is there for the parks. They’re just not doing it.
And they CAN open the retail and restaurants. Hotels are authorized to open. That’s how Knott’s opened. That’s how CityWalk is opened. The option is there for the parks. They’re just not doing it.
I wish the Employees spoke outThe issue is transmission. On a roller coaster, people scream and yell. Well, that means the virus can be transmitted, and now to large groups of people very quickly. If one person in the front yells, they could potentially infect all the people behind them. Having 6 feet of distance doesn't mean much if you're all moving at 20 mph or more. Hence why a park in Japan initially told people not to scream on the rides (the now famous line, "Please scream inside your heart.") Don't think that would work very well here in the states.
Admittedly, most roller coasters are outdoors, so that may minimize things a bit--maybe even a lot, but who knows for sure? But even if they did, what about indoor coasters like Space Mountain? From a covid transmission point of view, that probably isn't very safe.
The other issue is all the rides in a park are totally different. Covid safety on an outdoor attraction is likely very different on an indoor attraction. And attractions with long indoor queues (think Indy or RotR)... also probably not very safe. Where do dark rides fall on the spectrum? The submarine ride? Star Tours? Water rides? Shows? Parades? Do you just close the indoor rides... and if so, are people going to visit a park if 2/3 of the attractions are closed for safety reasons?
Plus, we must think of the employees. I know I wouldn't want to run the elevator in Haunted Mansion. It's may be okay for the guest, who's only in it for a short time. But as an employee, being trapped in a fairly small indoor space for hours, with probably poor ventilation, crammed with people you don't know? I wouldn't want to do it.
I know I've proposed on my twitter that Disney ought to open more for food and shopping, but every time I have, I've been told the issue is unions.
I wish the Employees spoke out
Can't read it....is this people saying it or the union's stance?They did.
Disneyland employee unions demand that the Anaheim theme parks not reopen on July 17
The Coalition of Resort Labor Unions wants Disney to delay reopening the theme parks, hotels and shopping mall at the Disneyland resort until it can be done safely in a way that protects the health…www.ocregister.com