Discussion in 'Universal Studios Florida' started by wdwbiged, Oct 26, 2011.
Honestly they should just break down and re-do it to Dreamworks theater
What do you think was RIP'd?
There is absolutely no way Universal is just going to sit status quo with Hagrids and JP. Absolutely no way.
As if they’re just going to sit in the wings while Disney beats the piss out of them and gets 100% of the marketing?
Let’s give UOR the benefit of the doubt and say SW:GE and Hagrids is a wash. It isn’t, of course, but the WWoHP is going to get a ton of bleedover from the Star Wars crowds. It was a brilliant move on their part targeting WWoHP as their marketing focus.
We aren’t seeing the new UOR park open until 2023 at the earliest.
How do they counter MMRR and Rat for 2020?
How do they counter Tron, GotG and the multitude of things for WDW’s 50th in 2021?
If your only answer is “JP coaster”, then that’s equal parts hilarious and ridiculous. And if your answer is a possible parade or new show, I’ll continue my bewilderment as WDW will have a plethora of shows and other enhancements/replacements as well.
UOR isn’t going to just sit there for the Next 4-5 years and say “no need to come here during this time, but trust us... in 2023 or beyond, it’s gonna be great!”
They’re going to do another major attraction of some sort. If they didn’t, then they are completely incompetent and just content with sitting in obscurity and afterthought for around half a decade. I don’t believe they are either.
Outside of the "incompetent" and "sitting in obscurity and afterthought for another half a decade" I agree, there's more coming.
In terms of history we usually hear something about a new attraction 6-12 months prior to closure then it's around 16-24 months of construction till opening. That means we could hear of a new project this summer and have an opening in 2021 or 2022. Universal has a tighter lid on things than Disney does (minus the new park) so I tend not to worry about their long term prospects anymore.
To clarify... the idea that is now dead was replacing Shrek with the Dreamworks Theater?
Just swapping out one screen-based show for another screen-based show is not what would be the most effective usage of Shrek's prime real estate at the front of the park.
Every time I see a new post in this thread I get a little bit of hope that maybe, finally, they're going to do something with Shrek. I can't believe this thing still exists when you can literally stream it on Netflix right now.
I can't believe Disney has taken the strategy they have.
I mean, Disney is putting so much effort into their projects for the next few years, they surely won't have anything for 2023 that's capable of countering the opening of Fantastic Worlds.
So they're going to "sit the wings" by not opening a new park in 2023 while Universal "beats the piss out of them" by opening the giant new Fantastic Worlds?
You win some, you lose some. UOR will be fine.
Dreamworks would make more sense for the space
Who knows, maybe SLoP could take FFL
As it stands, both were "RIP'd."
DreamWorks Theater was the more recent plan.
So the current plan is that there is no plan for Shrek in the near term?
Disney already let that happen once. I don’t see them allowing it to happen again. We’ll know for sure after D23 in August. I’d guess we get a new pavilion, but there’s no way I see them sitting in the wings while Universal brings their (likely groundbreaking) brand new park up.
Just like I don’t think Universal will stand aside while Disney opens multiple attractions every year up to that date.
That was my point. @Nick is thinking they won’t add anything until the new park, and I strongly disagree. To do nothing would be idiotic. And I don’t believe Universal is idiotic.
Universal isn't adding "nothing". Within the next three years (2019-2021) they have Hagrid's, the JP Coaster, and the T2 Replacement. Then they take 1-2 years off (2021-2022), letting Disney "beat" them those years, because they will "beat" Disney big time in 2023 when Fantastic Worlds opens.
I don't understand why you are dismissing Universal's additions for the next few years as insufficient to compete with WDW's new rides, while also suggesting that a new Disney pavilion would be enough to provide meaningful competition to Fantastic Worlds.
It's almost as if they don't care about each other anymore
Re-read my post.
I never said that I thought they won’t add anything. I said that after JP Coaster, my expectations are currently low. I’m sure we’ll get something, I’m just not expecting anything crazy.
So y'all should buy me more red wine because I'm in a mood.
So lets do story time kids. A version of Secret Life of Pets for the lower lot at USH was developed over the years by Orland's UC group. The leaked versions of the attraction were all from them: trackless AA focus, revamped mixed media, then the "hey lets do VR on a trackless" versions was all Orlando UC. After these versions they were scrapped and the new West Coast UC took over the project and made up the current plans for JW and SLoP. I think that's why there's a huge holding pattern on the rides at UOR and we'll know more in a year. I think Orlando parks and UC are being protective and West Coast wants to prove their worth. It's also why @Andy is being a cheerleader for USH more than normal in regards to attractions and such. It's a very interesting time for the Universal parks and I hope the best attractions, no matter who designs them, comes out.
SLoP at USH and UOR initial plans were killed. Then it turned into DreamWorks at Shrek and that was chucked after the projection media rejection from the GP. Now it sounds like it's going to be either a new attraction or they're waiting for feedback on West Coast's UC SLoP.
Definitely a interesting scenario that's gone down, hopefully it all works out. Either way, with this and JW you can see the effects of FatF where they really don't want another scenario of building a attraction for both parks and risk finding out it's a flop when the first one opens.
Interesting. Has orlando UC always been the more media/screen heavy of the 2? Is the west coast team newer? Trackless virtual reality seems like a huge pointless waste of money.
I never said that.
I never did that.
West Coast is very new, they have something to prove. Orlando UC (these are all my terms btw) is more media based recently with Coup.
So Shrek will be with us for a while
TPU strikes again
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