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shiekra38 said:
Most of the complaining is because this event feels very 'sell-outish' to some of the hardcore fans...also the similarities between Hollywood and Orlando has a lot of people on edge seeing as how Hollywood and Orlando are on two different levels...I for one do not share these thoughts, I truly feel this year is going to have a nostalgic feel to it (which is never really a bad thing)...someone mentioned devolving, that is not necessarily true..imagine the 90's HHNs with the technology and budget of today..how terrifying..personally I don't feel like an icon is what makes the event good, yes it does add to the event but it is nothing more than something to splash onto a billboard and appease the fans..they are trying something new this year, it is risky and I like it..I am however somewhat dissapointed on a personal level with the website..I always liked the build-up..but Universal is doing the smart thing and using Facebook and Twitter heavily to tease us.
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That's what makes it even worse to try and read. Most not all but most of them have been going for no more than 4-5 years and have never been to the Hollywood event. I wonder what these "hardcore fans" would of thought about HHN the event 10 years ago? Most have no idea what level the event was on 10 years ago and all the ups and downs that have come with it. I consider myself a "loyal" fan and have faith Universal will once again nail it.
 
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JungleSkip said:
Yup. Sounds pretty epic. Loving the concept.
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Well after their last Haunted House... I just hope they learned something from that.

Concept is sound and interesting and we will know shortly if it works or not.
 
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BriMan said:
But really, Legendary Truth in a Victorian House that is possessed by a Poltergiest (For those who had trouble) :lol:
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Don't forget the "Dummies."
 
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I had to laugh at Jaws not being there having any affect on capacity. Many times during HHN Jaws was a walk-on...no wait whatsoever with no line. So it not being there really won't change anything big picture.

And people have some faith, Universal has been racking up Ws for the past 2 years, I don't think this will be different.
 
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This year is going to be fairly interesting what with all the construction going on. Needless to say that I do have faith this year will be an amazing event like always. Ready for Legendary Truth to come back as well!
 
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I'm finally going this year! Just a few questions for you HHN veterans:

My boyfriend can get a 4 day multi-park ticket through his work for a decent price. We only wanna do HHN one night. Can we still do the stay n scream deal on a multi-day ticket?

Also: how bad are the crowds on Sundays? We're thinking about going the last Sunday of September.
 
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TheDecemberists said:
I'm finally going this year! Just a few questions for you HHN veterans:

My boyfriend can get a 4 day multi-park ticket through his work for a decent price. We only wanna do HHN one night. Can we still do the stay n scream deal on a multi-day ticket?

Also: how bad are the crowds on Sundays? We're thinking about going the last Sunday of September.
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As long as you have a ticket for the park that day, that qualifies as a Stay and Scream.

As far as Sunday crowds, the first couple weekends shouldn't be bad so you shouldn't be dealing with any hectic lines.
 
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Another hint by the same person that posted this morning's: http://instagram.com/p/OcQGYSxTar/

Someone on HNN pointed out that his username is synonymous with supernatural creatures.

EDIT: From the HHN Facebook page:

5 more weeks till the screams begin...
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There's some talk on HNN that the doll/dummy might be in reference to Robert the Doll. It does related to a haunting in a Victorian mansion.
not 100% sure it is a reference to him...but it is worth a google, creepy stuff
 
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Oh whoawhoawhoa. I do not have a fear of dolls, but if there is any doll in the world that would induce one in me, it would be Robert the Doll. The history and stories behind him.... Good God, I'm already shivering.
 
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As a "hardcore" Halloween Horror Nights fan who regularly contributes to HHN-specific sites... I feel a need to chime in again.

Jakemeister said:
I NEVER felt like Lady Luck's or Fear's story added to the over all event. The last time I truly felt that I was no longer entering USF but entering another realm was 2008, during Reflections of Fear. Every piece seemed to matter there, and despite the economy being wrecked at the time people still turned out and the event pulled insanely high GSAT's. 2009 was a step away from 2008, but none-the-less it still had more of an over all correlation between everything. 2010 and 2011 had none of that. Lady Luck was CLEARLY added on as a marketing decision and the way they shoe horned her into house story lines was evident. I would have never known without being on the media tour that she and choice some how tied into every house at the event, and that is quite frankly because they didn't up until marketing said "We need this, make it work."

I think it's quite apparent why we have 7 houses this year, if you want to look past the signs of why we took the hit than feel free to. There was however 8 planned, and guest will notice and lucky for the cynic in you that will be noted heavily on GSAT's.
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I agree with most of what you're saying for the first paragraph - 2009 was a step down from 2008 but still remained an excellent event and (IMO) had some level of "world" building. Its issues were of course centered on the marketing vs. creative issue yet again, with marketing wanting to push Wolfman/Chucky/SAW instead of the "true" icon, The Usher. 2010 completely lacked any overarching world. 2011 was closer, but failed to bring everything truly together due to the lack of creative inspiration for Lady Luck... like you said, it does feel like they inserted her after the attraction list was finalized. Thy reason I hold Lady Luck to a higher regard than I did FEAR was because there was some effort to integrate her, despite the lateness and remoteness of her involvement. A backstory was built for the character, the website hyped her up, she was blasted all over the advertisements, merchandise, etc. - her execution in the park was weak, but the character was at least used and acknowledged far more than the vague FEAR blunder.

Again - there could've been eight houses if they really wanted to. There were allegedly 8 houses planned when the event was to involve both parks... but there were only 7 planned pre-SS44 demolition. I certainly hope the GSAT's will force them to reintroduce 8 houses... that'd be ideal. But keep in mind the average joe visits maybe three or four houses the night they go... those types of people won't notice or care, which I'm guessing Comcast is banking on. It's up to the fans to bitch and moan, it's why we do what we do.

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It's AWFUL. This is the first year I've wandered over to sites detailing HHN, and they are the absolute WORST theme park fans. They don't know what they want, they flip flop every 5 seconds, and then end up being head over heels for the vent.
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I'm a bad theme park fan for demanding excellence? I know exactly what I want - a strong icon/overarching theme & atmosphere, a strong set of haunted houses and zones, a quality set of shows, and the bits and pieces (elaborate website, quality advertising & merchandise) to tie everything together. I prefer originality to IP houses, even if an IP is a property I really dig. I don't mind an IP or two a year. Just because a few fans constantly flip flop (which I agree is annoying) does not mean the entirety of the HHN fan base does, though often the condescenders will spin that to mean that we're all stupid and don't know what we want. Some people get jealous of the flavor of the moment (i.e. whatever Hollywood just announced) and claim they want it, but will in reality be far happier with the original house we eventually get (Victorian Mansion + Gargoyles, please!) Basically all I'm saying is don't stereotype the many for the words of a few.

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But those sites DO have great sources.

And one just posted this hint. Try and figure it out.
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Though said sources have been fairly accurate this year, they've been very wrong before. Don't take everything they say as gospel. It's a bit sad that they have to be the ones to provide the real clues, and not Universal themselves, no?

shiekra38 said:
Most of the complaining is because this event feels very 'sell-outish' to some of the hardcore fans...also the similarities between Hollywood and Orlando has a lot of people on edge seeing as how Hollywood and Orlando are on two different levels...I for one do not share these thoughts, I truly feel this year is going to have a nostalgic feel to it (which is never really a bad thing)...someone mentioned devolving, that is not necessarily true..imagine the 90's HHNs with the technology and budget of today..how terrifying..personally I don't feel like an icon is what makes the event good, yes it does add to the event but it is nothing more than something to splash onto a billboard and appease the fans..they are trying something new this year, it is risky and I like it..I am however somewhat dissapointed on a personal level with the website..I always liked the build-up..but Universal is doing the smart thing and using Facebook and Twitter heavily to tease us.
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As far as the devolution goes... what exactly is the "90's"? Streets without sets, events without overarching themes/icons? The freedom/crazy elements (i.e. ball pits) that the actors/designers were afforded in those years isn't coming back... so what exactly are we returning to? I'm just playing devil's advocate with this, I didn't attend those years and am curious to what's being referred to.

Facebook & Twitter were used to great effect last year in conjunction with the elaborate website last year - which was great. However, it's all we get this year - that's a cut.

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That's what makes it even worse to try and read. Most not all but most of them have been going for no more than 4-5 years and have never been to the Hollywood event. I wonder what these "hardcore fans" would of thought about HHN the event 10 years ago? Most have no idea what level the event was on 10 years ago and all the ups and downs that have come with it. I consider myself a "loyal" fan and have faith Universal will once again nail it.
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Alright, well, I feel like I'm being targeted here - I've been attending since 2008, this'll be my 5th year. The reason I was so drawn to HHN in the first place and compelled to try it (when before I routinely hated haunted attractions) was because of the incredibly engrossing Dr. Mary Agana journal. That sort of storytelling and character development, and the ensuing "Mary's World," is what (to me) puts HHN above and beyond other haunt events. What would I have thought about the event 10 years ago? Honestly, it'd probably be a fun Halloween event for the locals. Back then there were a handful of haunted houses (many of which were retreads), quite a few shows, and a couple of streets. I wouldn't be making thousand dollar pilgrimages just to go to HHN. The event has evolved since then I really don't think it's a fair comparison.

I've never attended Hollywood's event, regrettably - but to me they're different beasts. Hollywood is a dry event that seems far more willing (or able) to experiment with physical/grittier elements, such as puppetry, blatant sexual innuendo & content, incredible amounts of gore, with a greater reliance on "show scene" elements (which has declined since Roddy's departure, especially in 2010). Frankly, it seemed to me that Hollywood got the better SAW maze and debatably a better THING maze. The way they approach mazes are very differently than how we approach houses. My fear is we'll get all of the limitations of Hollywood (a constant, annual reliance on IPs, perhaps even repeat houses & a reduced budget) without all the benefits that come with it (frankly more intense elements in every sense of the word). Hollywood isn't a bad event by any means - it's great on its own terms. I'd love to fly out there and try it sometime soon.

To suggest I'm not a "loyal" fan because I'm critical of the cuts that are already apparent this year, as well as being skeptical of the rumored/announced elements, is preposterous. A&D are a very talented bunch of designers, but they aren't gods - they're humans, they make mistakes. Besides, with many of these criticisms I'm not even really blaming them - I'm blaming the marketing folks/decision makers who tighten their reigns and tell them what they're working with.

Many people at this point recognize that HHNXX was not a very good year at all. HHN21 had an amazing set of houses (my favorite set so far), but decidedly middling scare zones and icon/theme.

Octobers Fade said:
Well after their last Haunted House... I just hope they learned something from that.

Concept is sound and interesting and we will know shortly if it works or not.
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Exactly. They aren't perfect - there were plenty of elements in that house that worked, and plenty that didn't.

ralphoutloud said:
I had to laugh at Jaws not being there having any affect on capacity. Many times during HHN Jaws was a walk-on...no wait whatsoever with no line. So it not being there really won't change anything big picture.

And people have some faith, Universal has been racking up Ws for the past 2 years, I don't think this will be different.
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The loss of JAWS will have some effect on capacity - just because it sometimes was a walk-on didn't mean it was helping. As I mentioned earlier it's a relatively high capacity attraction (especially when compared to DM), and I often saw it at an at least 15 minute posted wait. The real issue will develop from the lack of the JAWS queue house, though. That space corralled a huge amount of people and I'm very curious to see how the crowds flow this year with its absence. Again - HHNXX wasn't that great. HHN is not infallible.
 
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Again - there could've been eight houses if they really wanted to. There were allegedly 8 houses planned when the event was to involve both parks... but there were only 7 planned pre-SS44 demolition. I certainly hope the GSAT's will force them to reintroduce 8 houses... that'd be ideal. But keep in mind the average joe visits maybe three or four houses the night they go... those types of people won't notice or care, which I'm guessing Comcast is banking on. It's up to the fans to bitch and moan, it's why we do what we do.
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I don't think the loss of 1 house should impact any opinion on the event until it's experienced. Unfortunately, Comcast was looking at the big picture instead of a one-off event when they decided to bulldoze SS44. What if the loss of 1 house adds to to more budget for another house/scarezone? I've been going since there was 5 houses, so the loss of 1 house doesn't really reflect any negatively to me at this juncture.. :lol:

I'm a bad theme park fan for demanding excellence? I know exactly what I want - a strong icon/overarching theme & atmosphere, a strong set of haunted houses and zones, a quality set of shows, and the bits and pieces (elaborate website, quality advertising & merchandise) to tie everything together. I prefer originality to IP houses, even if an IP is a property I really dig. I don't mind an IP or two a year. Just because a few fans constantly flip flop (which I agree is annoying) does not mean the entirety of the HHN fan base does, though often the condescenders will spin that to mean that we're all stupid and don't know what we want. Some people get jealous of the flavor of the moment (i.e. whatever Hollywood just announced) and claim they want it, but will in reality be far happier with the original house we eventually get (Victorian Mansion + Gargoyles, please!) Basically all I'm saying is don't stereotype the many for the words of a few.
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Demanding excellence, or demanding what you want? A strong icon isn't needed (i.e. 2005), but I do agree an overarching theme should be implemented. Elaborate websites shouldn't make or break event, but I do understand it helps hype the event; but elaborate websites only cater to a few. Simpler sites cost less money, and gets the same job done to provide information. However, this paragraph sorta proves what Skip was talking about. Your being very cynical right now based off of 4 confirmed houses and speculation on everything else, but you may end up liking the event.

Though said sources have been fairly accurate this year, they've been very wrong before. Don't take everything they say as gospel. It's a bit sad that they have to be the ones to provide the real clues, and not Universal themselves, no?
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Keep in mind, the social media thing is brand new to this ballgame. Before that, it was sites like this keeping people posted.

Alright, well, I feel like I'm being targeted here - I've been attending since 2008, this'll be my 5th year. The reason I was so drawn to HHN in the first place and compelled to try it (when before I routinely hated haunted attractions) was because of the incredibly engrossing Dr. Mary Agana journal. That sort of storytelling and character development, and the ensuing "Mary's World," is what (to me) puts HHN above and beyond other haunt events. What would I have thought about the event 10 years ago? Honestly, it'd probably be a fun Halloween event for the locals. Back then there were a handful of haunted houses (many of which were retreads), quite a few shows, and a couple of streets. I wouldn't be making thousand dollar pilgrimages just to go to HHN. The event has evolved since then I really don't think it's a fair comparison.

I've never attended Hollywood's event, regrettably - but to me they're different beasts. Hollywood is a dry event that seems far more willing (or able) to experiment with physical/grittier elements, such as puppetry, blatant sexual innuendo & content, incredible amounts of gore, with a greater reliance on "show scene" elements (which has declined since Roddy's departure, especially in 2010). Frankly, it seemed to me that Hollywood got the better SAW maze and debatably a better THING maze. The way they approach mazes are very differently than how we approach houses. My fear is we'll get all of the limitations of Hollywood (a constant, annual reliance on IPs, perhaps even repeat houses & a reduced budget) without all the benefits that come with it (frankly more intense elements in every sense of the word). Hollywood isn't a bad event by any means - it's great on its own terms. I'd love to fly out there and try it sometime soon.

To suggest I'm not a "loyal" fan because I'm critical of the cuts that are already apparent this year, as well as being skeptical of the rumored/announced elements, is preposterous. A&D are a very talented bunch of designers, but they aren't gods - they're humans, they make mistakes. Besides, with many of these criticisms I'm not even really blaming them - I'm blaming the marketing folks/decision makers who tighten their reigns and tell them what they're working with.
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I've been going since 2002, and following fansites since. Trust me, there are many on HHN boards who are very "passionate" for Horror Nights; if you get my drift. :lol: Again, the cuts aren't because they want to cutback HHN from being successful, but looking at the resorts bigger picture. They shouldn't have to cater to a small market of fans for an event that takes place for a month every year. The GP is always going to be interested in Horror Nights and they make stupid amounts of money. What they are doing this year is making the best they can with what they got, and from what I hear...you shouldn't be disappointed.

The real issue will develop from the lack of the JAWS queue house, though. That space corralled a huge amount of people and I'm very curious to see how the crowds flow this year with its absence. Again - HHNXX wasn't that great. HHN is not infallible.
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Actually, I'm glad it won't be used as a house again. It was notorious for bad houses, and was always a traffic nightmare due to all that activity in that small corner.
 
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BriMan said:
Keep in mind, the social media thing is brand new to this ballgame. Before that, it was sites like this keeping people posted.
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I agree with all of your points for the most part, but I wanted to throw something in on the social media aspect. If you would've said this before last year's event, I would've agreed with your statement. However, they proved last year that they have a decent understanding of how to use social media to build hype and engage an audience. The card and "victim's hand" giveaways were great ways to keep their fans on their toes, active, and interested. I just wish this year's hype wasn't so nonexistent.
 
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Tbad556 said:
I agree with all of your points for the most part, but I wanted to throw something in on the social media aspect. If you would've said this before last year's event, I would've agreed with your statement. However, they proved last year that they have a decent understanding of how to use social media to build hype and engage an audience. The card and "victim's hand" giveaways were great ways to keep their fans on their toes, active, and interested. I just wish this year's hype wasn't so nonexistent.
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Oh yea, they killed it last year with social media. However, the lack of interaction isn't going to stop me from heading to the event.
 
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Oh yea, they killed it last year with social media. However, the lack of interaction isn't going to stop me from heading to the event.
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Oh, definitely. I just didn't want their social media capabilities to be underestimated. I do think, however, we could still see some type of social media interaction once the event becomes a bit closer. Maybe even LT involvement depending on how they roll with it this time around.
 
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I also want to point out they could be doing different this year with the website. In the past, like LT in 2008, all the interactive stuff ended once the website's full reveal became public. After that, it's just a month of a website just lingering there as the event draws closer. Maybe this year, all the interactive stuff begins when the site is live and leads up to the event.
 
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BriMan said:
I don't think the loss of 1 house should impact any opinion on the event until it's experienced. Unfortunately, Comcast was looking at the big picture instead of a one-off event when they decided to bulldoze SS44. What if the loss of 1 house adds to to more budget for another house/scarezone? I've been going since there was 5 houses, so the loss of 1 house doesn't really reflect any negatively to me at this juncture.. :lol:

I think you misunderstand my point - the plan was for seven houses BEFORE SS44 was suddenly demo'd. The seventh house had a theme switch and was hastily moved into the Parade Building after the SS44 decision was made. I actually don't disagree with that decision at all, as much as it kinda blows for the HHN fans (I would've loved to see that Chupacabra house) - it made a lot more sense for the resort to fast track Transformers. My point is, the plan was for seven houses instead of eight, regardless of the SS44 situation. Why is that? Eight houses could've been done. Here's hoping we're back up to eight next year.

Demanding excellence, or demanding what you want? A strong icon isn't needed (i.e. 2005), but I do agree an overarching theme should be implemented. Elaborate websites shouldn't make or break event, but I do understand it helps hype the event; but elaborate websites only cater to a few. Simpler sites cost less money, and gets the same job done to provide information. However, this paragraph sorta proves what Skip was talking about. Your being very cynical right now based off of 4 confirmed houses and speculation on everything else, but you may end up liking the event.

To your first point, good devil's advocate argument. I wouldn't say a strong icon isn't absolutely necessary if an overarching theme is also present (though they sort of go hand in hand) - the icon often helps establish the theme, at least for marketing purposes. 2005 was a bit of a mess icon-wise, but I'd argue the Terra Queen was actually an excellent in-park icon (ala The Usher); lots of mythology behind her character and everything had a sense of purpose that tied back to her. The best case I've seen for an icon-less event is 2004; that had an overarching theme (you visiting a collection of locations that somehow drive one insane) without a concrete icon (though it did have the asylum fellow.) As for the website... I see it as a "raising the bar" thing. It isn't necessary to have a stellar event, but once you include it for so many years, its absence is troubling and is the evidence of further cuts. Elaborate websites sure cost more but they have the potential to add quite a lot; hell, the recent survey (and the fan backlash for the lack of "proper" site) is proof that Uni recognizes its importance to the fan base and even to some of the GP. I sort of have to be cynical when I'm now living out of town - as I've mentioned several times, I have to invest a lot of my savings into this vacation, and I can't just "wait and see" if the event will be a winner or not. This time I'm giving them my faith (plus the Gargoyles/Victorian Mansion/Classic Monsters houses have my interest), but if this year is another HHNXX, I may have to bail next year. A Walking Dead theme (as purported by the official survey) doesn't inspire a lot of confidence in me. However - I HOPE I love the event, and that this year overcomes the many difficulties facing it. I don't want to have buyer's remorse just to prove any point. :)


Keep in mind, the social media thing is brand new to this ballgame. Before that, it was sites like this keeping people posted.

I have to refer to Tbad -- the social media game was honestly perfect last year. Very frequent updates & clues, a whole separate tab for said clues that made everything feel far more professional & integrated, the awesome contests that got everyone involved and excited... this year it's joint house announcements with Hollywood and little else beyond typical PR speak. They still have a month to share hints for the remaining 3 houses (or maybe some previews of the announced houses) and/or hold some contests... but I doubt they'll bother to do something fun again like Hal Geluk, which provided context to the whole affair & even more incorporation into the event as a whole. I remain hopeful, though...

I've been going since 2002, and following fansites since. Trust me, there are many on HHN boards who are very "passionate" for Horror Nights; if you get my drift. :lol: Again, the cuts aren't because they want to cutback HHN from being successful, but looking at the resorts bigger picture. They shouldn't have to cater to a small market of fans for an event that takes place for a month every year. The GP is always going to be interested in Horror Nights and they make stupid amounts of money. What they are doing this year is making the best they can with what they got, and from what I hear...you shouldn't be disappointed.

They don't necessarily have to cater to that market of fans, true - but then that's the mentality of cutting corners since "only the hardcore fans will notice" that has led WDW into its spiral the past decade or so. GP always goes to Magic Kingdom - GP always goes to HHN. That's not an excuse to cut the event, IMO. If they choose to focus their efforts on Transformers/Potter Part II/Cabana Bay/etc. (even though HHN got along just fine while Potter Phase I was under construction, when there was much less $$ going around), that's fine. But in that process they may lose the support of those hardcore fans who have come to expect the heights that were afforded to HHN from 05-09. As for what you've heard... I've heard plenty, too. I'm not basing everything on just pure speculation. I'm confident in certain aspects of the event turning out well... not so confident in others. Here's hoping for the best, though! :)

Actually, I'm glad it won't be used as a house again. It was notorious for bad houses, and was always a traffic nightmare due to all that activity in that small corner.

I'm only referring to the house's capacity; that queue held a tremendous amount of people at any given point, people who will now be flooding the streets and other queues. I'm expecting wait times/crowding to increase... just curious how crazy it'll get.
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They don't necessarily have to cater to that market of fans, true - but then that's the mentality of cutting corners since "only the hardcore fans will notice" that has led WDW into its spiral the past decade or so. GP always goes to Magic Kingdom - GP always goes to HHN. That's not an excuse to cut the event, IMO. If they choose to focus their efforts on Transformers/Potter Part II/Cabana Bay/etc. (even though HHN got along just fine while Potter Phase I was under construction, when there was much less $$ going around), that's fine. But in that process they may lose the support of those hardcore fans who have come to expect the heights that were afforded to HHN from 05-09. As for what you've heard... I've heard plenty, too. I'm not basing everything on just pure speculation. I'm confident in certain aspects of the event turning out well... not so confident in others. Here's hoping for the best, though! :)
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Eh.. I get your stance on everything else but this one. I don't think this year will be a trend into the following years. We have a new parade, DM, Cinespec, the rampant construction on SS44 and the beginnings of WWoHP (on top of all the events they have to plan this year). I wish MK had that much on their plate. :lol:
 
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I'm not getting the hate for XX. I found it to be the best year I've been to (going since 2008). The houses were not elaborate at all but the scares were at their best. I ran from 2 houses, and dropped to the floor in one. Yes Fear was a photo-op but that didn't kill the event for me at all. This year my fear is that the sets will have more effort put into them then the scares, which is how I felt in 2009 and I guess that's why IPs leave a bad taste in my mouth.
 
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BriMan said:
Eh.. I get your stance on everything else but this one. I don't think this year will be a trend into the following years. We have a new parade, DM, Cinespec, the rampant construction on SS44 and the beginnings of WWoHP (on top of all the events they have to plan this year). I wish MK had that much on their plate. :lol:
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I think you misunderstand me again - I'm referring solely to HHN, not the park at large. Universal Studios the park has gotten and is continuing to get a lot of love... and that's awesome. But if Halloween Horror Nights gets continuously cut at the expense of that, then that really blows for the HHN fans... especially since HHN is what helped keep the parks afloat during the "dark ages" in the first place. They seem to have seen the error of their ways with the website (or hopefully have) and that'll be rectified next year. I could see the reliance on IPs, a seven-house count, and/or even repeat houses occur if this year is brings in the same amount of people without too much complaining. That's what I don't want to see happen - those are the trends I'm referring to.

Basically... keep investing into the resort (Islands, Uni, Citywalk, Hotels), but I'm hoping they don't cut HHN at the expense of that.

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I'm not getting the hate for XX. I found it to be the best year I've been to (going since 2008). The houses were not elaborate at all but the scares were at their best. I ran from 2 houses, and dropped to the floor in one. Yes Fear was a photo-op but that didn't kill the event for me at all. This year my fear is that the sets will have more effort put into them then the scares, which is how I felt in 2009 and I guess that's why IPs leave a bad taste in my mouth.
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Well, we're all of course entitled to our opinions! :smiley: HHNXX had what many consider to be a lackluster set of houses - with the only stand outs being Hallow'd Past, HAVOC, and Catacombs. The latter two many now feel are overrated. (I thought HAVOC was though I give props to those actors, Catacombs was IMO a really solid house.) A few of the zones were popular due to their involvement of the "past" (icons, characters) and there were some good ideas (Saws N' Steam), the others had more mixed reviews. Overall though... the year was just a step down from the super-elaborate overarching themes that had been seen since 05. FEAR was a last minute rush job (as usual not A&D's fault) and it showed; they built him up so much for him to just be a photo op as you mentioned.

As for scares? Some of that can just be timing, I suppose. For me the prime haunted house is where scenic design and scares are both high quality... I felt HHNXX did have some scares and some neat sets (though many felt a bit uninspired to me for various reasons), but the scares were generally of a far more basic variety (with the exceptions of some of Legendary Truth and Hades, IMO). A lot of simple boo holes and openings in the walls... it was missing the more creative/show scene style stuff that permeated HHNXX's precedecessors.

Okay, I'm probably boring everyone now, I'll step off my soap box. :P
 
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