Halloween Horror Nights 28 General Discussion

[horrornights789]

IMO Warner Bros Horror Made Here is more of an issue for Hollywood since it’s all IP, plus Orlando can probably just do an original heavily inspired by some of the WB properties(a Legendary Truth sequel that’s reminiscent of Conjuring 1 wouldn’t be bad tbh)

So with the codenames left, is this what everyone’s currently thinking?:

- Feature = Halloween 4
- Surprise = Horrors of Blumhouse 2 featuring Happy Death Day, potentially others
- Meteor = House inspired by Annhilation & The Thing, plant human hybrids with single light source
- Poison = ?(Spec map says Wizard of Oz original)
- Coach = Poltergeist(not confirmed by HHN, but confirmed by Legacy to go in SS25)

 

[Clive]

Same goes for me. It is my first time for HHN but not for Universal and when I fly to Orlando I also get to visit WDW so I could not say your argument is completly right.

But that's the point - Walt Disney World has been in the business of keeping you on their property, and their property alone, for your entire vacation. Halloween Horror Nights (along with the rest of UO's offerings) is preventing that from happening. Disney isn't about to hand Universal their own properties to sweeten something that's stealing vacation days.

 

[faceleg]

I doubt they are trying to get into the theme park game, but the haunt game is a bit easier and less of an investment/risk by comparison

Too late: Warner Bros. World theme park opens in Abu Dhabi | CNN Travel

Not in America, but still. Though didn't they try to build a theme park here? Hold a moment.

Ah, no, Australia: Warner Bros. Movie World - Wikipedia

 

[horrornights789]

Scarezone construction has started apparently

 

[DannyPowers]

But that's the point - Walt Disney World has been in the business of keeping you on their property, and their property alone, for your entire vacation. Halloween Horror Nights (along with the rest of UO's offerings) is preventing that from happening. Disney isn't about to hand Universal their own properties to sweeten something that's stealing vacation days.

But my point is that there are a lot of folks that wouldn't be coming to Orlando that time of year if it weren't for HHN.

Why not make some money by franchising those properties that you weren't doing anything with any way, and possibly steal some of those fans for a day or two? Especially since HHN doesn't run seven days a week.

 

[kingcooger]

Too late: Warner Bros. World theme park opens in Abu Dhabi | CNN Travel

Not in America, but still. Though didn't they try to build a theme park here? Hold a moment.

Ah, no, Australia: Warner Bros. Movie World - Wikipedia

The Abu Dhabi one is licensed out, not owned by WB

The Australia one is owned by Village Roadshow Theme Parks (a subsidiary of WB), but that company’s properties seem based mostly in Australia

 

[Clive]

But my point is that there are a lot of folks that wouldn't be coming to Orlando that time of year if it weren't for HHN.

Why not make some money by franchising those properties that you weren't doing anything with any way, and possibly steal some of those fans for a day or two? Especially since HHN doesn't run seven days a week.

They don't think that way, for better or worse. They either want you to come to Orlando for them, or not at all.

I think you're also overestimating the amount of money they make on the licenses. Disney isn't going to be interested in licensing out the original Alien to Universal under any circumstance - the brand doesn't need exposure. The only scenario where that sorta kinda makes sense is the ongoing television series (i.e. American Horror Story), where the maze serves as built-in advertisement for a new, forthcoming season. We could still yet see some special cases like that... but I don't find it especially likely. Why collaborate directly with a competitor (and bolster their offerings) if they don't have to?

 

[Drummanmatt]

I’ve said it before, and I’ll say it again. There’s always a deal to be had, it just depends on whether both parties are happy to sell/buy at that price.

For example, royalty fee for use of an IP in a house, plus a cut of merchandising revenue and free advertising of where to see that IP outside of the event could be attractive for a seller. However, that may not be as appealing to a buyer, who would then enter negotiations to agree a contract or walk away.

These are businesses. They are there to make money. At the end of the day it’s all about whether both sides can agree a deal. Simple as that.

 

[Badgeking]

Scarezone construction has started apparently

Really?!?! Where did you see this? Seems a little early for full on construction. I can see lights going up on top of buildings but I don't really consider that construction.

 

[Shinigami]

Really?!?! Where did you see this? Seems a little early for full on construction. I can see lights going up on top of buildings but I don't really consider that construction.

and here is the link Sunshine Frights (@SunshineFrights) | Twitter
you will find 2 additional photos there (in front of Cafe Labamba)

 

[MagicMagicMagic]

Aren't those just the same trusses they set up every year for the Rock the Universe Fan Zones?

Even if it is for HHN it's hardly noteworthy enough to proclaim scarezone construction has started, haha. But I guess they have to start somewhere.

 

[Shinigami]

Aren't those just the same trusses they set up every year for the Rock the Universe Fan Zones?

Even if it is for HHN it's hardly noteworthy enough to proclaim scarezone construction has started, haha. But I guess they have to start somewhere.

They could be used for Rock the Universe but they will also be used for HHN^^ and if you count this as a starting of construction of Scarezones or not is up to everyone themselfe

 

[Parkscope Joe]

Well, gives them incentive to do more originals! That and rely on Blumhouse, and hope that Disney is open to licensing properties like Alien.

Seriously though, I’m quite worried about the AP parking rumors. I would be devastated and very, VERY angry if they’re true. When would they announce this?

 

[Clive]

I’ve said it before, and I’ll say it again. There’s always a deal to be had, it just depends on whether both parties are happy to sell/buy at that price.

For example, royalty fee for use of an IP in a house, plus a cut of merchandising revenue and free advertising of where to see that IP outside of the event could be attractive for a seller. However, that may not be as appealing to a buyer, who would then enter negotiations to agree a contract or walk away.

These are businesses. They are there to make money. At the end of the day it’s all about whether both sides can agree a deal. Simple as that.

Sure, and that made sense when FOX (who does not participate in the haunt or theme park game) was the one doing the selling.

Disney is not interested in playing ball.

 

[Imperius]

Ehhh a lot is being made over this. It really won’t matter for HHN.

 

[Clive]

Ehhh a lot is being made over this. It really won’t matter for HHN.

I mean, once you'll see Hollywood's lineup, you'll see it matters for them. Orlando, less so.

 

[horrornights789]

I mean, once you'll see Hollywood's lineup, you'll see it matters for them. Orlando, less so.

Is that why we’ve seen so much Blumhouse in recent years?

 

[Clive]

Is that why we’ve seen so much Blumhouse in recent years?

It's certainly a major factor. Blumhouse is full of nice people who are genuinely excited to work on stuff like this, but they've definitely leaned on them more heavily (and will probably continue to do so). In fairness to them, they're the most prolific/successful genre production company in the game right now (along with James Wan's Atomic Monster, which has a first-look with Warner Bros and a generally lower output).

By the way, saw somewhere on here that people were saying Blumhouse was based on the WB lot? That's not true. They have their own offices near Downtown and have a first-look deal with Universal.

 

[hhnlover]

By the way, saw somewhere on here that people were saying Blumhouse was based on the WB lot? That's not true. They have their own offices near Downtown and have a first-look deal with Universal.

Yeah wesker was the one that said that.

 

[AlexanderMBush]

In a cool thing to note, Kyle Lambert contributed to the ST keyart just released.