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Could you elaborate on this? I wasn't around for 25 and this sounds .. quite interesting, to be honest.The issue I always have is putting the cart before the horse, or in this instance, focusing on speculation as the product and not the event. 25 ruined speculation IMHO.
Could you elaborate on this? I wasn't around for 25 and this sounds .. quite interesting, to be honest.
I've always seemed to struggle with what exactly the definition of "speculation" is, because to be honest, there would be a "reason" for most IPs to come.
1. Gotcha - I knew somewhat about the Scream issues but I wasn't sure that's what Joe meant by saying 25 ruined spec. So the house at 25 was really only supposed to be about the show, but Uni just kinda did their own thing and made it about the movie? If that's the case... I get why Miramax was mad lolNot an expert on either topic so I'm sure there's more to add:
1. Scream at HHN 25 was at the release of the new show and was to be a promotion for it. If you've seen anything about the show, the first season mask is new and not immediately indicative of Scream. The rights to the costume are separate from the IP - Wes Craven wanted the costume to be something that anyone, like the killers, could just go buy from the store (This is why Dead by Deadlight has a Ghostface killer but isn't a licensed killer from Scream. You can get the rights to one without the other). What really caused issues however is that the house had no ties to the new show, and was entirely based around the first film. If you watch a walkthrough of the Purge that year its a one-to-one of film moments with different killers and Purge graffiti. It was a gambit by HHN to get an IP that they had wanted for sometime. Rights holders were NOT happy when they saw the final result and pulled the rights last minute, forcing Universal to do a quick re-theming.
2. That's not you're fault at all lol. Speculation imo needs to have a reason, whether is be related to:
Timing - new release, anniversary, etc
Rights - can the property be acquired, relations with IP holders
Desire - does HHN want it
Popularity - will it bring people to the event
Hints- has someone pointed signs towards it
Anything to base around why someone believes a property or theme will be coming. Something can still hit a few markers and still be absolutely just wishful thinking though. If there is a reason behind the belief, and evidence, and you can show it, it's speculation. That's where the fun of speculation comes from. Piecing together information and figuring out what awaits before the information is released to the general public.
I'm sure others have more to add, but that's the methodology I follow at least.
I wasn't sure that's what Joe meant by saying 25 ruined spec.
focusing on speculation as the product and not the event.
With the concept of it taking place in a high rise, I'm curious to see if they'd incorporate that into a house. Some forced perspective kind of stuff would be cool.Back to spec, with Evil Dead Rise now officially having a release date of April 21st, I'd say there's a pretty good chance it'll actually show up at the event this year. After all it does seem the reason it was dropped last year was due to its schedule change, making it perfectly viable to pick back up.
THIS.... been going the 3rd week of Sept since 2006. This year we did 5 nights (wed thru sun) and it was bonkers EVERY night. Save up for those express passes kiddies!!!Weeks 3-4 are ideal for HHN. The scare actors and any ops issue should be resolved by then and the scare actors are warmed up. Legends Collide was not a great house until about week 3 when the cast decided to crank it up.
This year confirmed that opening weekend is not ideal for anyone visiting for a night or two.
HHN is busy every night now. No such thing as an empty night (including Wednesdays/Thursdays, which arguably could be busier than a Saturday some weeks). With the exception of the nights after Hurricane Ian, the event was absolutely packed.
that was probably just me talking about it non-stop LOL....HHN 29, I think. I could've sworn I saw people on the 29 thread talking about Hellraiser and Pumpkinhead. :shrug:
Back to spec, with Evil Dead Rise now officially having a release date of April 21st, I'd say there's a pretty good chance it'll actually show up at the event this year. After all it does seem the reason it was dropped last year was due to its schedule change, making it perfectly viable to pick back up.
With the concept of it taking place in a high rise, I'm curious to see if they'd incorporate that into a house.
This is gonna be my first non-local year so I'm definitely really excited to spend like $600 on my ticket alone... Yaaay....Save up for those express passes kiddies!!!
Yeah the trademark thing is neat but I have no clue why it would be necessary for HHN... I'd KILL for a Phantom-centric Monsters house but I have a feeling it's gonna be DracAs some have mentioned, it could be more related to Epic Universe than Horror Nights. After all Phantom was present in 2019's Universal Monsters house, no trademark application necessary.
I will continue to beg for a Creature house.This is gonna be my first non-local year so I'm definitely really excited to spend like $600 on my ticket alone... Yaaay....
Yeah the trademark thing is neat but I have no clue why it would be necessary for HHN... I'd KILL for a Phantom-centric Monsters house but I have a feeling it's gonna be Drac