Isnt Beetlejuice WB?Is it possible Sabrina and gremlins are potentially not coming because of WB?
Isnt Beetlejuice WB?Is it possible Sabrina and gremlins are potentially not coming because of WB?
Tier 2: Popular True-Horror - Here is where the Conjuring, IT, the Titans of Terror, Scream, etc. reside. The reason why it's Tier 2 is because its closer association with horror does turn off a segment of the general population. This is what attracts the "horror casuals" I referred to previously (people who will go see Conjuring, but won't bother watching Hellraiser).
Tier 3: Known True-Horror - Here is actually where a good number of HHN stuff falls, and what most HHN fans want to see. The Thing, Halloween, Child's Play, Hellraiser, and the like fall here. This is for stuff that the "horror casuals" are aware of, but may have never bothered seeing. They work as headlining filler. Honestly, I'd argue Haunting of Hill House and the Classic Monsters fall here.
I'd put it in either Tier 2 or 3.
Plot twist: 2020 has just been another one of her stories.
Seriously, I’d be really happy with any of the non-clown icons.
I believe so but there might be something there since he already has a in park presenceIsnt Beetlejuice WB?
Very possible. I know that Sabrina was never even planned for this years event. But Gremlins I have heard they most likely lost the rights to or decided to scrap. It was suppose to be a house. But my source says not anymore. But we don’t know for sure what will be coming until things are announced.Is it possible Sabrina and gremlins are potentially not coming because of WB?
You think it’s possible it was never planned and they decided to do it as a last minute house? I heard sabrina and hill house were both a possibility for a little bit around last month or soVery possible. I know that Sabrina was never even planned for this years event. But Gremlins I have heard they most likely lost the rights to or decided to scrap. It was suppose to be a house. But my source says not anymore. But we don’t know for sure what will be coming until things are announced.
same here, but you guys can probably guess that i have a soft spot for HHN 15, so anything relating to that year is more than sufficient for me. IF an icon is to come, it’ll probably be the terra queen, and that would be a dream come true, but i’m excited about the possibility of an icon other than jack to take charge in the ip era!Plot twist: 2020 has just been another one of her stories.
Seriously, I’d be really happy with any of the non-clown icons.
Hill House is definitely happening and is most likely going into B108(where Seeds & Monsters were)You think it’s possible it was never planned and they decided to do it as a last minute house? I heard sabrina and hill house were both a possibility for a little bit around last month or so
I figured hull house was a def I was mostly curious if sabrina was a last min or maybe they put it on the map to hide a big horror IP so we have a few surprises. Kinda like how they didn’t straight up say ghostbusters last yearHill House is definitely happening and is most likely going into B108(where Seeds & Monsters where)
Your definition of a "strong" IP?
I think we've talked about this a lot in the past, but Universal doesn't have a ton of heavy hitters waiting in line anymore. Big names like Halloween, Saw, Blumhouse, and the big 3 TV headliners feel tired at this point and other big IPs like The Thing, TCM, Jurassic Park, Alien, Ghostbusters, etc. have either already been done before or have already inspired classic Original houses in the past.
So what's left? Among sparse others, we have Hellraiser, Gremlins, Day of the Dead, Beetlejuice, The Ring, They Live, and Paranormal Activity. All of them could work fine as the B or C tier houses of an event but I really struggle to see anything here as the headliner, barring maybe Hellraiser.
Scream, IT, and Conjuring are the biggest IPs in line and all three have huge obstacles in the way of them coming to the event. Has it happened before? We got The Shining so nothing is truly impossible, but I wouldn't count on it.
I'm not surprised if IP houses this year seem a little less grand than in the past.
I would say it would probably just be characters from the first movie. The second has a completely different tone that lampoons the first, so much so that the first is almost straight horror in comparison. Think Evil Dead, skipping two, and then watching Army of Darkness. Also the Gremlins have relatively noticeable different designs in both films.Assuming this whole Gremlins thing is true, is this looking to be Gremlins 1 only? Or would it be like Ghostbusters where it’s only the 1st movie but characters from the 2nd movie make its appearance. Or hell, maybe both movies combined?
All speculation and rumors of course. I am in the same boat with you. Any type of Gremlins attraction would make my childhood dreams come true If the rumored location was true maybe it is for the best. I feel like that (presumably) small space would not do the movie justice.I know nothing is confirmed til it's confirmed. But I'm going to be very sad if Gremlins doesn't happen now. It is #1 on my wish list. I just think it would be such a fun house.
Well, it’s been ten years since the last decennial, and HHN has relied on IPs for the last eight years. Recent history is more telling than ancient history. Even 25, a much “bigger” anniversary than 20 or 30, had Freddy vs Jason, TWD, The Purge, Insidious, and American Werewolf (for those counting at home, that’s a Tier 1, three Tier 2s, and a Tier 4). So, the last anniversary was an extremely heavy IP year.From what I've been reading, a point has faded from all of this conversation. In my opinion, Universal doesn't need the support of heavy hitter IP's during these anniversary years(especially the 10 year ones). All they need is their ads and merch to say is HHN30 and boom, it's valuable. Quite honestly, they should save any big or semi-big IP in their back pocket for 2022, because I think next year could be a great way to somehow market 31 as important. That's the date of Halloween and the fact it will never happen again, nor will it get an anniversary every 5 to 10 years.
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see, i feel like an important point is also missing from your analysis. it’s not only an anniversary year, but an anniversary year that’s expected to take place right after a global pandemic. UO is probably wanting this event to essentially make up for the lost profits it acquired during its closure, so these mega ips are gonna be what intrigues the casual haunt goer.This also has a lot to do with box office numbers. For instance, Ghostbusters brought in 3X the money that Beetlejuice made. This is also why we're getting a Bourne show and why we have a F&F ride...$$$
From what I've been reading, a point has faded from all of this conversation. In my opinion, Universal doesn't need the support of heavy hitter IP's during these anniversary years(especially the 10 year ones). All they need is their ads and merch to say is HHN30 and boom, it's valuable. Quite honestly, they should save any big or semi-big IP in their back pocket for 2022, because I think next year could be a great way to somehow market 31 as important. That's the date of Halloween and the fact it will never happen again, nor will it get an anniversary every 5 to 10 years.
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That last Frankenstein’s monster scare made me lose my shoe, had to run back in and get it. So good.I was right by the window when the werewolf did his jump, and I didn’t detect him until he was mid-jump. That’s pretty startling.
But after that, yeah, I agree, Frankenstein was breathtaking up close as he clomped around.
Well, it’s been ten years since the last decennial, and HHN has relied on IPs for the last eight years. Recent history is more telling than ancient history. Even 25, a much “bigger” anniversary than 20 or 30, had Freddy vs Jason, TWD, The Purge, Insidious, and American Werewolf (for those counting at home, that’s a Tier 1, three Tier 2s, and a Tier 4). So, the last anniversary was an extremely heavy IP year.
IPs matter. Full stop.
True, but another point would be they need The Conjuring, Halloween, etc. Either go big or go home, because Gremlins and Beetlejuice aren't going to save attendance numbers if that's what they're aiming to do. So I'm saying, place those in their back pocket for another year so that they can save the $ on IP use and use them as a wildcard for another year where maybe it will matter. I believe "30" will sell just as much as those two IP's as the "headliners" this particular year.see, i feel like an important point is also missing from your analysis. it’s not only an anniversary year, but an anniversary year that’s expected to take place right after a global pandemic. UO is probably wanting this event to essentially make up for the lost profits it acquired during its closure, so these mega ips are gonna be what intrigues the casual haunt goer.
IP's do matter, but a lot of the IP's were forgettable that year and I would guess that people remember Jack and the carnival font on all of the merch, not the Purge or TWD. It was also the year they returned American Werewolf in London, so if they need IP this year, why not bring back a best of IP houses? You could link the Storyteller by saying these are the best horror stories ever told.
True, but another point would be they need The Conjuring, Halloween, etc. Either go big or go home, because Gremlins and Beetlejuice aren't going to save attendance numbers if that's what they're aiming to do. So I'm saying, place those in their back pocket for another year so that they can save the $ on IP use and use them as a wildcard for another year where maybe it will matter. I believe "30" will sell just as much as those two IP's as the "headliners" this particular year.