That’s exactly why those extra hours upcharge parties are so popular.
Touring Plans: WDW "Observed" Increased Stand By Times
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I mainly did it as more of a research thing. Mainly so I could discuss the attraction from a informed viewpoint.
I usually do that at least once with new popular attractions like Gringott's, 7DMT, and FoP.
I still haven't ridden NRJ.
I have never rope dropped a park in my life. I am more of a 11AM’er with a 3 hour limit. Odd I know.
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I don't know if that's the main driver. For me personally those events are about the different M&Gs, shows, and other perks rather than the rides that can typically be done during normal hours. I will admit we did a few of the "longer wait" rides during the parties, but it was more about the exclusive things that were offered during those parties.
NRJ is enjoyable, but needs to be so much longer.
I’m not talking about MNSSHP and MVMCP. I’m speaking to the parties that are essentially paid EMH.
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Gotcha. Yes that is definitely true and is now becoming one of the very few perks of staying on site. Disney is really making me want to stay off-site the way they are monetizing every freaking thing anymore.
Luckily, I now have 2 offsite properties I can stay at without any additional cost.
Excellent new thread running on WDW Magic right now. The thread is titled "The Day the Magic Died" and Magic forum poster Pooh does a great parody of the "The Day the Music Died" song. It's really good.....There's two different threads on the parking running on Magic right now, and both threads are blasting Disney big time. Most every poster is strongly negative on this issue. There's only a very few that are lukewarm or supportive of it. And, keep in mind, Magic is a pretty strong pro Disney site for the most part, with a few exceptions, mostly those that post here also.
Magic has been pretty angry at Disney for years. At least on the News & Rumors section.
I often find many there to be more negative on Disney than we are.
Yes, I've noticed that.It's mostly just me.
I need a better hobby.
Ya got that right!
Yep.
Ohhh...unless some magical miracle happens, this fall will not be like your trip in 2015.
Prime example right here!!!:wave:
They clearly weren't in school that day, because they've already turned the company over to the bean counters.
They've already been testing selling FP to the club level guests - $50 for 3 extra FP's - the monetizing is coming...
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I’m glad I’m not the only one who thinks that. I can’t go on Magic anymore because it’s so unbelievably negative.
I'm preparing for the worst and hoping for the best.
Welcome to the forums, by the way!
Disney is definitely crazy with everything to get on rides and dealing with the crowds lol.
I too have grown frustrated with Disney and the crowds there and everything the company has done in the last several years. They have become the caricature that everyone has always painted the mouse as. Going back years, people's vitriol towards the parks seemed completely unfounded. But under Iger Disney has truly become the money-hungry monolithic company people have always deemed them to be. From buying up every popular studio and IP known to man to nickel and diming guests in the parks, it's just disgusting.
My family and I are locals, have been for years. We used to vacation in winter months before moving to Florida and it was always so much more manageable. Now it's basically a nightmare to go to Disney any time of year. The crowds are ridiculous no matter when it is. My wife and I don't get to ride anything unless we manage to have a FP like a recent visit to DAK. Now with them charging for parking at the hotels, the way they try to price out certain income brackets, just everything that they do is disgusting now. Walt's rolling over in his grave.
My family and I are locals, have been for years. We used to vacation in winter months before moving to Florida and it was always so much more manageable. Now it's basically a nightmare to go to Disney any time of year. The crowds are ridiculous no matter when it is. My wife and I don't get to ride anything unless we manage to have a FP like a recent visit to DAK. Now with them charging for parking at the hotels, the way they try to price out certain income brackets, just everything that they do is disgusting now. Walt's rolling over in his grave.
I dropped my Walt Disney World annual pass many years ago. Going once a year to Mickey's Halloween Party gives me my Magic Kingdom fix and I am good.
Starting off on a tangent here, but will bring it back around. I believe @Joe floated this theory on Twitter a year or so ago, but I've come to agree a large part of Disney's bump in crowds is growth in the area. Look at Forbes list of fastest growing cities. #4 is Orlando, but #14 is Lakeland, about equally as close to the Mouse for many residents. At least three more in the top 25 are within a few hours drive. Throw in the fact WDW made silver APs more attractive with free parking and payment plans, you can't help but expect to see a boost in APs ...
Which bore out yesterday. Monday on been slow at the parks. Then yesterday--keeping in mind a decade ago Saturday was a travel day and rarely rose above 4th busiest day of the week--more traffic east-bound on I-4 at the WDW exit than I saw during Spring Break. I can only attribute this to a mess of APs suddenly making Saturday a bust day at Disney. This was noticeable at EPCOT, as well--extended lots used during F&G whenever silver APs are eligible.
Here's the thing: I don't believe management has realized this yet. They are still trying to do bare-bones staffing assuming Saturday at MK won't be nearly as busy as the previous Monday was. I think this just exacerbates weekend crowds, particularly among locals likely to post here or on Twitter. At a certain point TDO needs to recognize that Orlando is morphing into Anaheim far quicker than anyone expected it would. Staffing needs to reflect that.
Which bore out yesterday. Monday on been slow at the parks. Then yesterday--keeping in mind a decade ago Saturday was a travel day and rarely rose above 4th busiest day of the week--more traffic east-bound on I-4 at the WDW exit than I saw during Spring Break. I can only attribute this to a mess of APs suddenly making Saturday a bust day at Disney. This was noticeable at EPCOT, as well--extended lots used during F&G whenever silver APs are eligible.
Here's the thing: I don't believe management has realized this yet. They are still trying to do bare-bones staffing assuming Saturday at MK won't be nearly as busy as the previous Monday was. I think this just exacerbates weekend crowds, particularly among locals likely to post here or on Twitter. At a certain point TDO needs to recognize that Orlando is morphing into Anaheim far quicker than anyone expected it would. Staffing needs to reflect that.
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Part of the justification for Magic bands was that Disney would have detailed traffic information to adjust staffing. Whether or not they use the data and how they use the data is another matter, but they have the data.
