Y'all this is gonna be so much fun. Never thought I'd see a new park from Uni/Disney in Orlando again.
Now, someone build me my Royal Egyptian hotel
Now, someone build me my Royal Egyptian hotel
Talking land rights, right-of-way, foreclosure, land conservation requirements... no clue.![]()
There's the current map of Universal/Stan Thomas land ownership in Orlando. Universal's land ownership for the south resort is now over 1300 acres. H/T to @Happytycho for checking the land records and finding the specific parcels Universal got.
I included the Kirkman extension on this map because that right-of-way was already granted on that specific route, so Universal will have to deal with that as it is.
The Mandarin extension (the one cutting across large parts of the property from Universal Blvd. to Sand Lake) is not included because I assume Universal will move that path before actually granting right-of-way/building it, to maximize Universal's land usage.
I'm interested to see if UOR will try to get some sort of transportation option between resorts approved as an option aside from buses. They'd need to get approval to use the airspace which is the issue.Yea. Not saying they can’t open before 2023...but absolutely no one should expect that. There’s a lot of things hat need to get approved/signed off on before they even start work. My complete guess is they’re going to try and get all the city approvals for Phase 1 of Site B by the end of the year (meaning we’ll see/hear something solid on it by then, whether officially or by leaks). But then you still have a ton of time for infrastructure installation on the land, and then construction itself.
It’s gonna be a fun time though. Looking forward to enjoying it all with everyone. We have a crazy awesome time in Orlando right now, and who knows, there’s a chance this is the last time we’ll see a development like this in the city
I'm interested to see if UOR will try to get some sort of transportation option between resorts approved as an option aside from buses. They'd need to get approval to use the airspace which is the issue.
Also, the UOR bus pick up/drop off is already way too small and this is before the two hotels at WnW open and then presumably 3-4 hotels open at the new site which will end up being bused over. They are going to need to figure out how to handle that situation, but it's tricky as they have little land to play with in that spot.
I'm interested to see if UOR will try to get some sort of transportation option between resorts approved as an option aside from buses. They'd need to get approval to use the airspace which is the issue.
Also, the UOR bus pick up/drop off is already way too small and this is before the two hotels at WnW open and then presumably 3-4 hotels open at the new site which will end up being bused over. They are going to need to figure out how to handle that situation, but it's tricky as they have little land to play with in that spot.
Same, when people talk about the court case I get sooo intensely confused, I only really check on here for things like that and I can just :drool:Talking land rights, right-of-way, foreclosure, land conservation requirements... no clue.
This picture is basically the only thing that matters to me.
To keep it slightly on topic. Buses with a Nintendo wrap are going to be look dope AF.
Let's not get overly optimistic.
Could 2022 happen? Sure. But it's not a likelihood. You have to remember, this is an entire new resort with a new park, citywalk, hotels, etc all being built on land that needs to be cleaned up first. They also are going to want to carefully plan out how they build out this first phase so it leaves them in a great position for a Second water park, more hotels and a potential fourth theme park far down the line.
This isn't something you rush.
Yea. Not saying they can’t open before 2023...but absolutely no one should expect that. There’s a lot of things hat need to get approved/signed off on before they even start work. My complete guess is they’re going to try and get all the city approvals for Phase 1 of Site B by the end of the year (meaning we’ll see/hear something solid on it by then, whether officially or by leaks). But then you still have a ton of time for infrastructure installation on the land, and then construction itself.
It’s gonna be a fun time though. Looking forward to enjoying it all with everyone. We have a crazy awesome time in Orlando right now, and who knows, there’s a chance this is the last time we’ll see a development like this in the city
It's pretty amazing that this thread started 6 years ago.Reading the first few pages of this thread is interesting with how things have went.
:thumbsup:A big thank you to you & Happytycho for keeping these maps updated throughout this entire process.![]()
There's the current map of Universal/Stan Thomas land ownership in Orlando. Universal's land ownership for the south resort is now over 1300 acres. H/T to @Happytycho for checking the land records and finding the specific parcels Universal got.
I included the Kirkman extension on this map because that right-of-way was already granted on that specific route, so Universal will have to deal with that as it is.
The Mandarin extension (the one cutting across large parts of the property from Universal Blvd. to Sand Lake) is not included because I assume Universal will move that path before actually granting right-of-way/building it, to maximize Universal's land usage.
Yeah, I agree completely.I'm interested to see if UOR will try to get some sort of transportation option between resorts approved as an option aside from buses. They'd need to get approval to use the airspace which is the issue.
Also, the UOR bus pick up/drop off is already way too small and this is before the two hotels at WnW open and then presumably 3-4 hotels open at the new site which will end up being bused over. They are going to need to figure out how to handle that situation, but it's tricky as they have little land to play with in that spot.
You can already see the effect of all those hotel rooms. Even though it's just an indicator, not a true attendance count, monitoring crowd levels on Touring Plans, there aren't many real slow days at Universal anymore. Usually the crowd level predicted slow days end up a couple notches higher than predicted. All of those rooms, which are generally 90% plus occupied (per Comcast/Universal), help to ensure a decent minimum attendance during the times that would have been really slow in the past.Yeah, I agree completely.
Prospective room counts for Universal:
Current: 5,600
2020: After Aventura + Wet 'n Wild: 9,000
~2024: After South Resort Phase 1: 13,500
~2026: After South Resort Phase 2: 15,500
We're basically looking at a near tripling of Universal's room count over the next decade under the most likely scenarios. That's a lot more traffic to the current UOR from outside of the current continguous property.
And those South Resort hotel rooms will be feeding regularly into the current UOR given most of those guests will need to be moved to the current UOR for 2-3 days of their stay.
Before today I could see an argument for only having three dry parks. But why would Universal have 2 dry theme parks on 600+ acres then buy 1,000 acres (and maybe more) just to put one more dry Park? Even their lawyer said in the court case the property was big enough for two major theme parks.
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There's the current map of Universal/Stan Thomas land ownership in Orlando. Universal's land ownership for the south resort is now over 1300 acres. H/T to @Happytycho for checking the land records and finding the specific parcels Universal got.
I included the Kirkman extension on this map because that right-of-way was already granted on that specific route, so Universal will have to deal with that as it is.
The Mandarin extension (the one cutting across large parts of the property from Universal Blvd. to Sand Lake) is not included because I assume Universal will move that path before actually granting right-of-way/building it, to maximize Universal's land usage.
So now with the star flyer being 400ft+, does this mean universals new roof is 400ft + at the south site rather than the 200 they have now???
Edit: cuz I want 450ft warp pipes around the border of the land:exclap: