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Disney Springs Discussion

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They said this is going to take until 2016 to build?
 
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Bryan said:
I wonder what the construction order is going to be.

I guess the easy things first? The walkway over the water, plussing west side with the elevated train stuff?

I wonder how they will do the parking garages because that will kill the already crutched parking infront of marketplace when they start that
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I think the West Side parking garage will be the first thing built, along with maybe the Marketplace bridge. Once the West Side garage is done, they'll do the Marketplace one.
 
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shiekra38 said:
Didn't see it posted, but here is a video of the announcement with an unnecessary projection effect..they are really trying too hard

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m0DNXoo6tXk
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There trying to redeem themselves from the last several PR blunders here locally. I'm not poking fun btw that's a fact.
 
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hatetofly said:
There trying to redeem themselves from the last several PR blunders here locally. I'm not poking fun btw that's a fact.
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I don't see how yesterday's presentation wasn't a blunder, though. It was largely devoid of any significant information on what we can expect in the way of new offerings.

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One of which will be the WDW's version of the Trader Sam's concept.
 
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Bryan said:
I wonder what the construction order is going to be.

I guess the easy things first? The walkway over the water, plussing west side with the elevated train stuff?

I wonder how they will do the parking garages because that will kill the already crutched parking infront of marketplace when they start that
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I would think they would want to start with the parking garage on the marketplace side. Doing that first would fix a number of issues right away (it would provide parking for when they have to tear up the PI parking lot, fix the marketplace parking issue that exists now, and take pressure off the west side parking lot so they can put a deck up there)

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JungleSkip said:
I think the West Side parking garage will be the first thing built, along with maybe the Marketplace bridge. Once the West Side garage is done, they'll do the Marketplace one.
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Very true, that deck would take the pressure off the other construction the same way.
 
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Its going to be a b:censored: to park during the garage building phases.
 
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well you can't blame Diseny for wanting to get rid of it's biggest blemish. I couldnt believe it took this long? Anyone know why they canned Hyperion Wharf? Besides the awful name.
 
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well you can't blame Diseny for wanting to get rid of it's biggest blemish. I couldnt believe it took this long? Anyone know why they canned Hyperion Wharf? Besides the awful name.
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Because it was an unspiried piece of design, and companies knew it.

As for the name, I think it's better than Disney Springs.
 
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Disney is milking this "Springs" name for everything its worth. Saratoga, Coronado and now Disney Springs. And there is a spring that runs through Wilderness Lodge.
 
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I'm looking forward to the finished product, and it'll be really nice to not have to spend forever trying to find a parking space on the east end when the ramps are completed.
 
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Is there an official Disney Springs forum page? We should make one.
Also has anybody seen this video?
http://www.bizjournals.com/orlando/...es.html#ooid=NnMWk3YTqm3G4MOcNowLL_w8gsovkMI6

In the video she mentions entertainment in the water area. Maybe we can finally see the WDW debut of World of Color? :happy:
 
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amonuniversal said:
Is there an official Disney Springs forum page? We should make one.
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Well, Disney Springs is "The Future of Downtown Disney"......... :rolleyes:
 
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Still can't get over the name. An area full of nightlife and entertainment venues should not be called "Disney Springs" - why not just keep it Downtown Disney? Oh well - it's final now.
 
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JungleSkip said:
I don't see how yesterday's presentation wasn't a blunder, though. It was largely devoid of any significant information on what we can expect in the way of new offerings.
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While they may not have as many third parties finalized as they may like, I have a feeling the lack of 3rd party names being announced has more to do with them having their own timeframes, shareholders to answer to (constant badgering of "when is our Disney location opening?" when its one of the last to open during shareholder meetings), etc. I believe I've heard that Landry's is looking at a 3rd concept for the expansion.
 
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The reason that that presentation had the projection mapping tech involved had nothing to do with impressing "media". That model is being used to court possible third party vendors and they are using the projection mapping tech to better showcase the area to those vendors.
 
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First of all, what the heck is Trader Sam's and Shake Shack?

Not sure what I think of this concept, and until construction starts, I don't believe it will ever happen. Disney's biggest mistake was closing PI back in 08 without a new concept ready to go in. One of the problems with third parties going into Disney is actually dealing with Disney. My husband worked at Alfredo's way back in the 90s, and was almost brought in as a consultant by an outside company on a PI replacement, and here's the deal with building anything there: the third party pays for the construction of the building, and then immediately turns over the deed to Disney. This is probably why previously announced concepts never panned out, especially in the early years after PI closed, when the economy was flat and no one could get financing for construction when you would not be the owner of the building when it was completed. Plus, their "rental fees" are huge; perhaps this has changed, but it used to be that 24.9% of each day's receipts immediately went into Disney's coffers, at the end of every business day.

To me, the concept art looks a lot like the Premium and Prime outlet malls, and do we really need another Coach outlet? True, I would love some shopping like they used to have back in the old days of the Disney Village, when not everything was Disney merchandise, but I'm not sure "malling" it is the way to go. I might like some unique boutiques, maybe local craftsman's items or something, I don't, just something different than what surrounds the tourist areas.

I really don't like how vague they are being about this. "Yeah, we have another idea for DTD, and here are some of the things you MIGHT see there, we just want to announce it and see what happens and who wants to be here."
 
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As long as they get a restaurant that serves Chinese food I'll be happy :rolleyes:
 
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maxairmike said:
While they may not have as many third parties finalized as they may like, I have a feeling the lack of 3rd party names being announced has more to do with them having their own timeframes, shareholders to answer to (constant badgering of "when is our Disney location opening?" when its one of the last to open during shareholder meetings), etc. I believe I've heard that Landry's is looking at a 3rd concept for the expansion.
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I understand that. But they could have announced the Disney venues that will be going into the area
 
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First of all, what the heck is Trader Sam's and Shake Shack?
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http://disneyland.disney.go.com/disneyland-hotel/trader-sams/
 
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