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Captain America: Brave New World

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Why would the $180 number not be accurate?
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It is not plausible that a movie which required five-six weeks of reshoots, and starring Harrison Ford, could have only cost Disney $180 million to make. Because that would men, pre-reshoots and pre the expensive Ford joining the cast, this would have been the cheapest MCU film in over a decade. And with inflation, increased VFX costs, and other factors, I don't believe that could be possible.

Now, could the film have been budgeted at $180 back in 2022 when it started gearing up for production? Very possibly. But that would be before reshoots and any other unanticipated expenditures that needed to be made.
 
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I mean, I don't doubt that the number is higher than 180m but Mackie's quote is probably lower than Evan's and Ford isn't in the movie that much from my understanding. Marvel generally prices in reshoots with their budget too. I don't think the number is *ridiculously* higher than 180m.
 
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belloq87 said:
It is not plausible that a movie which required five-six weeks of reshoots, and starring Harrison Ford, could have only cost Disney $180 million to make. Because that would men, pre-reshoots and pre the expensive Ford joining the cast, this would have been the cheapest MCU film in over a decade. And with inflation, increased VFX costs, and other factors, I don't believe that could be possible.

Now, could the film have been budgeted at $180 back in 2022 when it started gearing up for production? Very possibly. But that would be before reshoots and any other unanticipated expenditures that needed to be made.
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I mean, I don't doubt that the number is higher than 180m but Mackie's quote is probably lower than Evan's and Ford isn't in the movie that much from my understanding. Marvel generally prices in reshoots with their budget too. I don't think the number is *ridiculously* higher than 180m.
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what Happens to the actors that get deleted? obviously they still get paid, but do they get paid the same?
 
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They probably get paid, yes. Wasted work is still work.
 
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Saw it in IMAX--definitely felt like a condensed TV season. 75% two actors talking in a small room on some soundstage, mixed with some janky CGI (in small, cut-away doses, to save 60 seconds of animating overall). That would've made it aggressively mediocre.

But then the small details add up...
Why put a character comic fans (or anyone who buys Happy Meals) will instantly recognize as Sabra, but ret-con a new name and backstory with a voice-over?
Why waste the Serpent Society with just two members, neither in costume? Cap being the only one in a funny outfit actually makes the world less believable, not more.
Why does no one put together basic facts about the film's kickoff event that clearly indicate one character is innocent? Oh, and Sam, the guy who counsels soldiers, doesn't care that maybe other members of the military are also being railroaded?
Why "Brave New World"? The phrase has a loaded meaning, and it doesn't apply at all here.

I heard the movie was largely rewritten, and it shows. There's a skeleton of a good movie here -- Mackey is still charismatic as hell, Ford actually good again -- but I think it got bogged down with the need to use previously shot footage from a very different story.
 
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SeventyOne said:
Saw it in IMAX--definitely felt like a condensed TV season. 75% two actors talking in a small room on some soundstage, mixed with some janky CGI (in small, cut-away doses, to save 60 seconds of animating overall). That would've made it aggressively mediocre.

But then the small details add up...
Why put a character comic fans (or anyone who buys Happy Meals) will instantly recognize as Sabra, but ret-con a new name and backstory with a voice-over?
Why waste the Serpent Society with just two members, neither in costume? Cap being the only one in a funny outfit actually makes the world less believable, not more.
Why does no one put together basic facts about the film's kickoff event that clearly indicate one character is innocent? Oh, and Sam, the guy who counsels soldiers, doesn't care that maybe other members of the military are also being railroaded?
Why "Brave New World"? The phrase has a loaded meaning, and it doesn't apply at all here.

I heard the movie was largely rewritten, and it shows. There's a skeleton of a good movie here -- Mackey is still charismatic as hell, Ford actually good again -- but I think it got bogged down with the need to use previously shot footage from a very different story.
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you are correct.

serpent society had 3 more members with powers and costumes that got replaced by Giancarlo after test screenings were criticizing the original serpent society as being too silly ( from what I read on Reddit) and sabra got changed due to some of our real world conflicts going on. all her scenes were changed. her outfit changed I think. she was cut from some scenes.


yes a lot of the questions you have come from reshoots and the test screenings.

the movie also ended differently with a funeral because red hulk would die in battle. there are images of the funeral scenes online.


rosa Salazar was diamondback but got cut.

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It's most definitely not the worst MCU movie but Anthony Mackie deserved better. My biggest gripe was directly tying it to the Ed Norton Hulk movie all of a sudden when none of the 35 other MCU movies we got beforehand barely addressed it. That movie was pretty much completely forgotten about.
 
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Still sad about this. His original design was so much better.

 
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I liked it! I don’t have much to say about it though, which may also say a lot.
 
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And it begins…
 
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saint.piss said:
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That poster’s kind of a perfect metaphor for Marvel facing the angry fanbase.
 
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I don't know what's sadder, the fact that this happened and someone could've been really hurt or that there was only 2 people watching the movie? Lmao

 
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