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Celestial Park - General Discussion Thread

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this article was saying he had a broken leg? first time I read about that detail. just wondering

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‘Help! Help!’ Cause of death revealed for guest who rode Stardust Racers at Epic Universe

In the wake of a guest who died after riding an Epic Universe roller coaster on Wednesday, the Orange-Osceola Medical Examiner has released the cause of death.
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I don’t fully disagree that there were some TMs being “unprofessional” in the moment, but at the same time even if this is something Universal trains for (I’m sure they train about medical emergencies, but not to this extent) all of that goes out the window when you see something as traumatic as what was described and you can’t fault the TMs for that.
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I hope it didn't come off as thinking the "unprofessionalism" thing was right something I believed. Far from it, if what he described was true I would likely have been absolutely been doing the same and I feel for anyone that had to witness or try to do their job when something horrible like this happens. I have no idea what the right thing to do in this case would be for a TM.

I was simply saying the majority of his emotional state was how it impacted him in having to go to Lost & Found
 
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Nightmare scenario for everyone involved. Deep condolences to those affected.

In the time that I worked attractions at UOR, those kinds of medical emergencies, especially situations this intense, were brought up in training; but very rarely in-depth, and only to the extent to where you'd be able to call Health Services / Security in the moment. UOTM Attractions staff aren't lifeguards or medical staff, and they aren't trained as such. There certainly weren't enacted drills or training exercises on how to deal with traumatic events like this in the moment. This was likely the first time anyone on that team had dealt with a situation like this.

We have also been speaking for awhile on these boards of understaffing across the resort. I would bet that a number of these Epic TMs are likely new to the company, and everyone on staff is less than a year into their roles given the park hasn't been open more than half a year.

Does this excuse any actions from the TMs? I don't really care about that if I'm honest. Simply trying to provide context from my previous experiences.
 
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Lucky Planet said:
this article was saying he had a broken leg? first time I read about that detail. just wondering

www.clickorlando.com

‘Help! Help!’ Cause of death revealed for guest who rode Stardust Racers at Epic Universe

In the wake of a guest who died after riding an Epic Universe roller coaster on Wednesday, the Orange-Osceola Medical Examiner has released the cause of death.
www.clickorlando.com www.clickorlando.com
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Yeah, the only place I've seen that was from an interview with someone claiming to be on the same train.

As we see over and over again, people usually aren't great eye witnesses, so I'm pausing until we get official word from USO or whatever investigative body there is.
 
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Nightmare scenario for everyone involved. Deep condolences to those affected.

In the time that I worked attractions at UOR, those kinds of medical emergencies, especially situations this intense, were brought up in training; but very rarely in-depth, and only to the extent to where you'd be able to call Health Services / Security in the moment. UOTM Attractions staff aren't lifeguards or medical staff, and they aren't trained as such. There certainly weren't enacted drills or training exercises on how to deal with traumatic events like this in the moment. This was likely the first time anyone on that team had dealt with a situation like this.

We have also been speaking for awhile on these boards of understaffing across the resort. I would bet that a number of these Epic TMs are likely new to the company, and everyone on staff is less than a year into their roles given the park hasn't been open more than half a year.

Does this excuse any actions from the TMs? I don't really care about that if I'm honest. Simply trying to provide context from my previous experiences.
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As someone who does occasionally respond to emergency scenarios, unless you are training for it in depth and regularly you are not going to have the muscle memory to know what to do when you see someone actually injured/unconscious. Even with all of the training until you're in that position for the first time you don't know what your response will be.

I really feel for these TMs and hope they get any help they need, bad situation all around.
 
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WESH just reported that it was the guests 6th time riding Stardust that day…
 
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GAcoaster said:
WESH just reported that it was the guests 6th time riding Stardust that day…
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More information released:
  • Had a laceration, and CPR was being performed on the platform.
  • Had a pre-existing spinal injury
 
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GAcoaster said:
WESH just reported that it was the guests 6th time riding Stardust that day…
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UniversalRBLX said:
More information released:
  • Had a laceration, and CPR was being performed on the platform.
  • Had a pre-existing spinal injury
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maybe there's need to be a limit of daily rides if the team member notices the same rider.
 
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I've not rode it yet, so I'm asking out of genuine curiosity. Is there even anywhere you could maneuver yourself to hit your head and get a laceration? Could you hit the seat in front of you?
 
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I've not rode it yet, so I'm asking out of genuine curiosity. Is there even anywhere you could maneuver yourself to hit your head and get a laceration? Could you hit the seat in front of you?
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I read one comment on one of the articles where a girl said she hit her head on her legs while riding it. and some other people replied with the same experience.
I only mention it because it made me curious.
I don't know how but that conversation made me wonder.
 
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GAcoaster said:
WESH just reported that it was the guests 6th time riding Stardust that day…
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Lucky Planet said:
maybe there's need to be a limit of daily rides if the team member notices the same rider.
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So… unless there is evidence of continuous issue, re-rides *shouldn’t* be a cause. In high school, I and about 60 other classmates all rode Montu 20 times.

Really, the lacerations is the biggest tell something went disastrously wrong. And unless there is damage to the ride or video of something from the ground it’s impossible to tell what could have caused it.

It’s funny 20 years on, but Fabio broke his nose on Apollo’s Chariot when a bird flew into his face. Something like that is tragically possible through no fault of anyone.
 
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Lucky Planet said:
maybe there's need to be a limit of daily rides if the team member notices the same rider.
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Out of all the things you quoted the number of rides isn’t the most concerning part of that list…
 
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Lucky Planet said:
maybe there's need to be a limit of daily rides if the team member notices the same rider.
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This is quite the dumb rule to enforce. If you know your body's limits and you know that you are in well-standing, you can do what you would like to do within the confines of the park because you did pay for the park ticket. I rode Stardust about 10 to 12 times in one day but I also wouldn't do the same for other rides that emit a large amount of headbanging or jackhammering.
 
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Lucky Planet said:
maybe there's need to be a limit of daily rides if the team member notices the same rider.
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It's not the most intense coaster at the resort. This is absurd.

Anyway, there are still a lot of questions and not many answers. The speculation pool is just too large and I feel gross trying to figure out a reason so soon.
 
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So… unless there is evidence of continuous issue, re-rides *shouldn’t* be a cause. In high school, I and about 60 other classmates all rode Montu 20 times.

Really, the lacerations is the biggest tell something went disastrously wrong. And unless there is damage to the ride or video of something from the ground it’s impossible to tell what could have caused it.

It’s funny 20 years on, but Fabio broke his nose on Apollo’s Chariot when a bird flew into his face. Something like that is tragically possible through no fault of anyone.
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Rhian said:
Out of all the things you quoted the number of rides isn’t the most concerning part of that list…
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ladiesman217 said:
This is quite the dumb rule to enforce. If you know your body's limits and you know that you are in well-standing, you can do what you would like to do within the confines of the park because you did pay for the park ticket. I rode Stardust about 10 to 12 times in one day but I also wouldn't do the same for other rides that emit a large amount of headbanging or jackhammering.
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It's not the most intense coaster at the resort. This is absurd.

Anyway, there are still a lot of questions and not many answers. The speculation pool is just too large and I feel gross trying to figure out a reason so soon.
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yeah all of us have rode rollercoasters many many times, because you can go from park to park and no one knows, I realize that you can just go from ride to ride and repeat them a lot, but if he was in a wheelchair from a spinal injury maybe that many times was a problem?

and with wait times being long in general on parks, I do not ever recall being able to ride any coaster that much on the same day.
were the wait times so low that he could repeat it so often?
 
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The cool thing about speculating over a tragic accidental death is you absolutely don't have to do that. My god.
 
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heard some interesting rumors this ride might not be reopening according to someone i talked to who claimed to be a team member
 
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heard some interesting rumors this ride might now be re opening according to someone i talked to who claimed to be a team member
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Do us a favor… please stop reporting what you hear.
 
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